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Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?

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  • processheadP processhead

    I have been working on getting the power and control wiring finished and operational. I prefer to keep most of the wiring enclosed in conduit and covered electrical boxes or internal covered channels in the cabinet itself.
    The exception is the the power cord to the hot plate which I could have hard wired into the system, but instead I left it with the original cord and plug and installed a receptacle underneath for it to plug in to. This will make it easier to replace if the element ever burns out or needs to be changed for some other reason.

    20210925_154105.jpg
    20210925_154050.jpg

    Black cube shaped object is the Solid State Relay or SSR . It takes the low power control signal from the PID and switches the 120 volt AC current on and off to the hot plate inside.
    SSRs generate some heat when they are switched on and need to be mounted to a metal surface or heat sink to absorb the heat.
    In this case, the outer sheet metal cabinet of the smoker is acting as the heat sink.

    20210925_155851.jpg

    Since the smoker is usually operated outside, I installed a GFCI device for safety. The case of the smoker is grounded through the power cord, also for safety.
    The toggle switch is the main power switch for the unit. Both the GFCI and the toggle switch are rated for 20 amp service. I used a 15 foot long piece of 14 gauge cord to give the smoker a little more reach to an outlet.

    20210927_163151.jpg

    20211010_081712.jpg

    20211010_081704.jpg

    20210825_153245.jpg
    20210930_082214.jpg

    The picture below was when I was trying out the auto tune function of the PID. Not great, but probably acceptable for a smoker.

    Manual tuning of the PID did work pretty well though, and was holding temps consistently within +/- 2 degrees from the set point. I plan to do more tuning and testing with some pans of water in the smoker to simulate a load of meat or sausage.

    20210926_142400(0).jpg
    20210927_164415.jpg

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    bocephus
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    processhead This is looking real nice, any estimate on what the total cost is going to end up being?

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      processhead This is looking real nice, any estimate on what the total cost is going to end up being?

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      processhead
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      bocephus said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

      processhead This is looking real nice, any estimate on what the total cost is going to end up being?

      I would estimate new materials costs at $100. Sometimes its hard to estimate total cost because I have a pretty large inventory of miscellaneous hardware, wire and other materials that cost me little or nothing.

      Conservatively, I would estimate total material costs still under $150.

      Paul

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      • processheadP processhead

        I have been working on getting the power and control wiring finished and operational. I prefer to keep most of the wiring enclosed in conduit and covered electrical boxes or internal covered channels in the cabinet itself.
        The exception is the the power cord to the hot plate which I could have hard wired into the system, but instead I left it with the original cord and plug and installed a receptacle underneath for it to plug in to. This will make it easier to replace if the element ever burns out or needs to be changed for some other reason.

        20210925_154105.jpg
        20210925_154050.jpg

        Black cube shaped object is the Solid State Relay or SSR . It takes the low power control signal from the PID and switches the 120 volt AC current on and off to the hot plate inside.
        SSRs generate some heat when they are switched on and need to be mounted to a metal surface or heat sink to absorb the heat.
        In this case, the outer sheet metal cabinet of the smoker is acting as the heat sink.

        20210925_155851.jpg

        Since the smoker is usually operated outside, I installed a GFCI device for safety. The case of the smoker is grounded through the power cord, also for safety.
        The toggle switch is the main power switch for the unit. Both the GFCI and the toggle switch are rated for 20 amp service. I used a 15 foot long piece of 14 gauge cord to give the smoker a little more reach to an outlet.

        20210927_163151.jpg

        20211010_081712.jpg

        20211010_081704.jpg

        20210825_153245.jpg
        20210930_082214.jpg

        The picture below was when I was trying out the auto tune function of the PID. Not great, but probably acceptable for a smoker.

        Manual tuning of the PID did work pretty well though, and was holding temps consistently within +/- 2 degrees from the set point. I plan to do more tuning and testing with some pans of water in the smoker to simulate a load of meat or sausage.

        20210926_142400(0).jpg
        20210927_164415.jpg

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        Surg
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        processhead she’s a beaut!

        β€œA smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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          samspade
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          Boy that sure looks better than if it went in the landfill. Great job

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            processhead
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            #99

            I am a fan of casters on equipment, so this smoker is getting some. Old feet off, enlarge tapped holes for 3/8 inch threaded casters and we be rollin.

            20211001_140358.jpg

            20211001_141742.jpg

            20211001_143616.jpg

            Now that its outside, making a little smoke.

            20211001_142827.jpg

            Paul

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              Jamieson22
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              Amazing.

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              • processheadP processhead

                I am a fan of casters on equipment, so this smoker is getting some. Old feet off, enlarge tapped holes for 3/8 inch threaded casters and we be rollin.

                20211001_140358.jpg

                20211001_141742.jpg

                20211001_143616.jpg

                Now that its outside, making a little smoke.

                20211001_142827.jpg

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                bocephus
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                processhead I agree the casters are the way to go.

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                  processhead I agree the casters are the way to go.

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                  processhead
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                  bocephus said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                  processhead I agree the casters are the way to go.

                  At age 50 I started putting casters on everything I own. Best thing I ever did. lol

                  Paul

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                    I wish I was that good and doing things I would really like to do one but it probably will never happen that thing is awesome greatjob

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                    • processheadP processhead

                      bocephus said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                      processhead I agree the casters are the way to go.

                      At age 50 I started putting casters on everything I own. Best thing I ever did. lol

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                      processhead said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                      bocephus said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                      processhead I agree the casters are the way to go.

                      At age 50 I started putting casters on everything I own. Best thing I ever did. lol

                      Yep. Same here. Maybe we do get smarter ass we get older. πŸ€”πŸ‘΄πŸ˜‚

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                      • PapaSopP PapaSop

                        processhead said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                        bocephus said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                        processhead I agree the casters are the way to go.

                        At age 50 I started putting casters on everything I own. Best thing I ever did. lol

                        Yep. Same here. Maybe we do get smarter ass we get older. πŸ€”πŸ‘΄πŸ˜‚

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                        #105

                        PapaSop
                        Think I just got censored for a s. πŸ˜‚

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                        • PapaSopP PapaSop

                          processhead said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                          bocephus said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                          processhead I agree the casters are the way to go.

                          At age 50 I started putting casters on everything I own. Best thing I ever did. lol

                          Yep. Same here. Maybe we do get smarter ass we get older. πŸ€”πŸ‘΄πŸ˜‚

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                          PapaSop said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                          processhead said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                          bocephus said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                          processhead I agree the casters are the way to go.

                          At age 50 I started putting casters on everything I own. Best thing I ever did. lol

                          Yep. Same here. Maybe we do get smarter [censored] we get older. πŸ€”πŸ‘΄πŸ˜‚

                          Great minds think alike. lol
                          Not sure about smarter PapaSop … I have definitely gotten lazier as I got older. Always looking for a short cut.

                          Paul

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                            work smarter not harder

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                            • processheadP processhead

                              I am a fan of casters on equipment, so this smoker is getting some. Old feet off, enlarge tapped holes for 3/8 inch threaded casters and we be rollin.

                              20211001_140358.jpg

                              20211001_141742.jpg

                              20211001_143616.jpg

                              Now that its outside, making a little smoke.

                              20211001_142827.jpg

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                              calldoctoday
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                              processhead Much better!

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                              • processheadP processhead

                                I have been working on getting the power and control wiring finished and operational. I prefer to keep most of the wiring enclosed in conduit and covered electrical boxes or internal covered channels in the cabinet itself.
                                The exception is the the power cord to the hot plate which I could have hard wired into the system, but instead I left it with the original cord and plug and installed a receptacle underneath for it to plug in to. This will make it easier to replace if the element ever burns out or needs to be changed for some other reason.

                                20210925_154105.jpg
                                20210925_154050.jpg

                                Black cube shaped object is the Solid State Relay or SSR . It takes the low power control signal from the PID and switches the 120 volt AC current on and off to the hot plate inside.
                                SSRs generate some heat when they are switched on and need to be mounted to a metal surface or heat sink to absorb the heat.
                                In this case, the outer sheet metal cabinet of the smoker is acting as the heat sink.

                                20210925_155851.jpg

                                Since the smoker is usually operated outside, I installed a GFCI device for safety. The case of the smoker is grounded through the power cord, also for safety.
                                The toggle switch is the main power switch for the unit. Both the GFCI and the toggle switch are rated for 20 amp service. I used a 15 foot long piece of 14 gauge cord to give the smoker a little more reach to an outlet.

                                20210927_163151.jpg

                                20211010_081712.jpg

                                20211010_081704.jpg

                                20210825_153245.jpg
                                20210930_082214.jpg

                                The picture below was when I was trying out the auto tune function of the PID. Not great, but probably acceptable for a smoker.

                                Manual tuning of the PID did work pretty well though, and was holding temps consistently within +/- 2 degrees from the set point. I plan to do more tuning and testing with some pans of water in the smoker to simulate a load of meat or sausage.

                                20210926_142400(0).jpg
                                20210927_164415.jpg

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                                processhead that thing is beautiful. What a great job πŸ‘. Thanks for sharing it with us.

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                                • processheadP processhead

                                  PapaSop said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                                  processhead said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                                  bocephus said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                                  processhead I agree the casters are the way to go.

                                  At age 50 I started putting casters on everything I own. Best thing I ever did. lol

                                  Yep. Same here. Maybe we do get smarter [censored] we get older. πŸ€”πŸ‘΄πŸ˜‚

                                  Great minds think alike. lol
                                  Not sure about smarter PapaSop … I have definitely gotten lazier as I got older. Always looking for a short cut.

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                                  processhead Man I need that bad boy in my life LOL!!! Awesome design. Maybe some day I will revisit the idea of building one for home use

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                                  • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                    PapaSop
                                    Think I just got censored for a s. πŸ˜‚

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                                    Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
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                                    #111

                                    PapaSop They probably knew you were thinking something else even though you didn’t even know it.πŸ˜‚

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                                    • processheadP processhead

                                      I am a fan of casters on equipment, so this smoker is getting some. Old feet off, enlarge tapped holes for 3/8 inch threaded casters and we be rollin.

                                      20211001_140358.jpg

                                      20211001_141742.jpg

                                      20211001_143616.jpg

                                      Now that its outside, making a little smoke.

                                      20211001_142827.jpg

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                                      processhead this has been educational and fun to watch. Thanks for taking the time to share.

                                      β€œYou never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                                        processhead Does this inkbird PID allow you to set it up to automatically advance through stepping up the different heat levels, or would you need to manually change the temp settings at the desired time intervals?

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                                          processhead Does this inkbird PID allow you to set it up to automatically advance through stepping up the different heat levels, or would you need to manually change the temp settings at the desired time intervals?

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                                          Ridley Acres said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                                          processhead Does this inkbird PID allow you to set it up to automatically advance through stepping up the different heat levels, or would you need to manually change the temp settings at the desired time intervals?

                                          No, this Inkbird is a bare bones PID controller, so it would require new setpoints to be entered manually.

                                          Paul

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