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Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?

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    PapaSop said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

    processhead said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

    Jonathon said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

    processhead Gotcha okay, Have you sussed out why they went out on you?

    I will have to do some more testing but I think this A-mazing pellet tray likes to be filled clear to the top with pellets before it is lit.

    It seems to stay lit better that way. Could have something to do with a larger smoldering ember area being less likely to go out.

    I have the tube. Works better full. No idea why.

    I have a theory, but you know what they say about theories. lol

    Anyway, when you are relying on smoldering pellets and no open flame, I think it is just more susceptible to going out. So with more pellets smoldering, you are just increasing the odds that the thing will stay hot enough to stay lit.

    The other thing you can do with these A-mazing pellet smoker deals is light both ends to generate more smoke (but for half as long.)

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    zbigjeff
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    processhead I’ve had zero problems after lighting it on one end as long as I let it burn for at least 2 minutes before blowing out. The 2 min rule solved the “going out” issue.

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      bocephus said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

      ND Mike That would be really bad if you shrinkflated your own packages.

      Maybe I’ll shrink wrap it? lol

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      processhead hahahaha!!!

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        ND Mike That would be really bad if you shrinkflated your own packages.

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        bocephus yes indeed!!!

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          wdaly said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

          processhead Again, thanks for sharing your journey. It’s been great to follow your progress. Must be pretty darn satisfying to finally reap the rewards of your labors. Good job.

          A HUGE THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU THAT OFFERED ADVICE AND ENCOURAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT!

          Sometimes it is hard to keep up the momentum on a bigger project when there are other things I have to or want to do.

          With equipment getting more expensive, I maybe someone can apply some of this project/thread for their own smoker build.

          Just remember to be safe with any project involving heat/ electricity and the use of power tools.

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          Surg
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          processhead great post. Thank you for the time and effort you put in. Nice looking piece of equipment that I’m sure you’ll put to great use.

          “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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            processhead - Paul, what type of heating element did you use under your diffuser?

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              processhead - Paul, what type of heating element did you use under your diffuser?

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              Pivodog

              I used this 1500 watt model from Amazon.
              https://www.[link removed]/gp/product/B07SW2M2WL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

              Note that the Meatgisics site software has crippled the link. If you replace the [link removed] and insert [link removed] it should get you to the product.

              The internal thermostat is removed and bypassed since the smoker uses an external temp control.
              I also learned there is an over temperature fuse in the base of the unit that will fail when the element is used inside the hotter environment of a smoker.

              When that happened, I had to remove it. It has worked reliably since then.

              I also am experimenting with this 1700 watt dual element one.
              https://www.[link removed]/gp/product/B07HJQCSXH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

              It also has had the internal thermostats controls removed. It does not have the over temperature fuse like the single burner element did.

              Paul

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                wow, I thought that you most likely used just an element. That’s a clever way of using an off-the-shelf device! How well does it radiate heat?

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                  These elements work pretty well. I believe The Sausage Maker uses a basic stove top element like this in their consumer grade smokers. At one time TSM sold just the round elements and a base pan for do it yourself builders, I think it is/was only 1000 watts which is a little on the small side for a cabinet the size of the one I am using on this project.

                  Since all the radiated heat comes from a relatively small surface, I put the diffuser plate over the top of the element to help eliminate a hot spot in the middle of the cabinet.

                  Paul

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                    sounds good, how well did the diffuser plate work?

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                      I think it helps. When you load up a smoker with hanging sausage or sticks, the stuff at the bottom and center will get hotter from the direct radiation from the burn. The diffuser kind of spreads it out more evenly.

                      Paul

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                        have you thought about the plastic inside the unit off gassing when exposed to heat or is the temps . being used not enough to be a concern ?

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                          I really like the idea of spreading out the heat evenly. I’ve always believed that my smoker has heat variations all over it which is hard to measure and verify.

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                            have you thought about the plastic inside the unit off gassing when exposed to heat or is the temps . being used not enough to be a concern ?

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                            craigrice said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                            have you thought about the plastic inside the unit off gassing when exposed to heat or is the temps . being used not enough to be a concern ?

                            The largest plastic part was the shelf unit on the inside of the door. That was replaced with a metal panel, as were a few trim pieces around the edge of the interior.

                            Paul

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                              Today I sent the smoker home with Brett, a fellow member of our local archery club.
                              He is upgrading from his small uninsulated smoker and is getting ready to start processing a big buck he harvested a couple of weeks ago.

                              Paul

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                                Today I sent the smoker home with Brett, a fellow member of our local archery club.
                                He is upgrading from his small uninsulated smoker and is getting ready to start processing a big buck he harvested a couple of weeks ago.

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                                processhead great gesture!!! I am sure he will make good use of it and you’re close by to answer his questions as he learns his smoker.

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                                  Today I sent the smoker home with Brett, a fellow member of our local archery club.
                                  He is upgrading from his small uninsulated smoker and is getting ready to start processing a big buck he harvested a couple of weeks ago.

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                                  processhead That is a super thing to do & it will likely come back at you someday in a good way. I am sure he appreciates everything you have done to make his meat year that much better! That is about as good as it gets.

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                                    Brett is a good guy. He is working to upgrade his processing gear and step up his game. I would not be surprised if he showed up on Meatgistics one of these days.

                                    Paul

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                                      Today I stripped the cooling coil/shelves out of the main cabinet and removed the plastic door shelf assembly and gasket from the door.

                                      On this freezer, the cooling coils are used as shelving units and are interconnected by steel refrigerant lines. My goal is to remove the excess refrigeration lines but retain the shelves because I think after they have been cleaned up, they will work pretty good for things like jerky or fish. I also would like the option to be able to remove them so I can hang product on sticks. It’s good to have options

                                      Since my freezer had developed a leak, all the refrigerant was gone and I could cut the lines without worrying about pressurized refrigerant hazards or releases. Be aware if you are converting a freezer/refrigerator that still has a charge. you should properly evacuate the refrigerant, before cutting into the system. Use PSE and be aware or the hazards before working on a charged system.

                                      I also plan to remove the compressor to lighten up the cabinet.

                                      Note that the plastic shelving unit on the door is attached by screws under the gasket. To remove the shelf, you just take out the screws. With the shelf removed, I can replace it with a sheet metal panel and reassemble using the old screws and door gasket. The plastic parts would eventually melt and could off-gas fumes that don’t belong around food.

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                                      processhead awesome build. Flagged so I can find later.

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