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Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?

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  • processheadP Offline
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    wrote on last edited by processhead
    #50

    Every smoker needs some means of controlling air flow through the chamber. Physics dictates that warm air rises so on a vertical smoker you normally see an air inlet in the bottom which draws ambient air and a discharge opening in the top where warm air and smoke exits. These opening will often has some sort of damper to control the rate of flow.

    I will be installing a 4 inch round duct thimble into the top of the smoker which will require cutting a 4 inch diameter hole through an inner and outer layer of sheet metal and about 1 1/2 inch layer of expanding foam that forms the insulating jacket of the old freezer.

    Many refrigerators and freezers will have condensing coils installed in the space between the inner and outer layer of the top and sides of the cabinet. This freezer did too and after cutting through the top, I was able to push the lines out of the way to continue all the way through.

    I used a 4 inch hole saw to cut the first hole in the top. The hole saw was difficult to control so I used a saber saw with a metal blade to cut the second hole through the inner layer of sheet metal.

    I flipped the cabinet over onto it’s top to make the second cut through the inner layer of sheet metal, which is why one of the photos looks upside down.

    After I cut the opening, I positioned the thimble in place and sealed it in with expanding foam. My experience with expanding foam is that once it has cured, it forms a very good seal and is mechanically very strong.

    The weather cap goes on top and it has a rotating damper plate. The damper plate will regulate the smoke and hot air exiting the top of the smoker.

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    Paul

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    • processheadP processhead

      Every smoker needs some means of controlling air flow through the chamber. Physics dictates that warm air rises so on a vertical smoker you normally see an air inlet in the bottom which draws ambient air and a discharge opening in the top where warm air and smoke exits. These opening will often has some sort of damper to control the rate of flow.

      I will be installing a 4 inch round duct thimble into the top of the smoker which will require cutting a 4 inch diameter hole through an inner and outer layer of sheet metal and about 1 1/2 inch layer of expanding foam that forms the insulating jacket of the old freezer.

      Many refrigerators and freezers will have condensing coils installed in the space between the inner and outer layer of the top and sides of the cabinet. This freezer did too and after cutting through the top, I was able to push the lines out of the way to continue all the way through.

      I used a 4 inch hole saw to cut the first hole in the top. The hole saw was difficult to control so I used a saber saw with a metal blade to cut the second hole through the inner layer of sheet metal.

      I flipped the cabinet over onto it’s top to make the second cut through the inner layer of sheet metal, which is why one of the photos looks upside down.

      After I cut the opening, I positioned the thimble in place and sealed it in with expanding foam. My experience with expanding foam is that once it has cured, it forms a very good seal and is mechanically very strong.

      The weather cap goes on top and it has a rotating damper plate. The damper plate will regulate the smoke and hot air exiting the top of the smoker.

      20210718_133832.jpg
      20210718_135514.jpg
      20210718_140832.jpg

      ChefC Offline
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      Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
      wrote on last edited by
      #51

      processhead Nice Job. There are going to be a lot of people looking at this project.

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      • processheadP processhead

        Every smoker needs some means of controlling air flow through the chamber. Physics dictates that warm air rises so on a vertical smoker you normally see an air inlet in the bottom which draws ambient air and a discharge opening in the top where warm air and smoke exits. These opening will often has some sort of damper to control the rate of flow.

        I will be installing a 4 inch round duct thimble into the top of the smoker which will require cutting a 4 inch diameter hole through an inner and outer layer of sheet metal and about 1 1/2 inch layer of expanding foam that forms the insulating jacket of the old freezer.

        Many refrigerators and freezers will have condensing coils installed in the space between the inner and outer layer of the top and sides of the cabinet. This freezer did too and after cutting through the top, I was able to push the lines out of the way to continue all the way through.

        I used a 4 inch hole saw to cut the first hole in the top. The hole saw was difficult to control so I used a saber saw with a metal blade to cut the second hole through the inner layer of sheet metal.

        I flipped the cabinet over onto it’s top to make the second cut through the inner layer of sheet metal, which is why one of the photos looks upside down.

        After I cut the opening, I positioned the thimble in place and sealed it in with expanding foam. My experience with expanding foam is that once it has cured, it forms a very good seal and is mechanically very strong.

        The weather cap goes on top and it has a rotating damper plate. The damper plate will regulate the smoke and hot air exiting the top of the smoker.

        20210718_133832.jpg
        20210718_135514.jpg
        20210718_140832.jpg

        cdavisC Offline
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        cdavis
        Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
        wrote on last edited by
        #52

        processhead making progress and looking good 👍. Thanks for sharing this with us.

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        • processheadP processhead

          Every smoker needs some means of controlling air flow through the chamber. Physics dictates that warm air rises so on a vertical smoker you normally see an air inlet in the bottom which draws ambient air and a discharge opening in the top where warm air and smoke exits. These opening will often has some sort of damper to control the rate of flow.

          I will be installing a 4 inch round duct thimble into the top of the smoker which will require cutting a 4 inch diameter hole through an inner and outer layer of sheet metal and about 1 1/2 inch layer of expanding foam that forms the insulating jacket of the old freezer.

          Many refrigerators and freezers will have condensing coils installed in the space between the inner and outer layer of the top and sides of the cabinet. This freezer did too and after cutting through the top, I was able to push the lines out of the way to continue all the way through.

          I used a 4 inch hole saw to cut the first hole in the top. The hole saw was difficult to control so I used a saber saw with a metal blade to cut the second hole through the inner layer of sheet metal.

          I flipped the cabinet over onto it’s top to make the second cut through the inner layer of sheet metal, which is why one of the photos looks upside down.

          After I cut the opening, I positioned the thimble in place and sealed it in with expanding foam. My experience with expanding foam is that once it has cured, it forms a very good seal and is mechanically very strong.

          The weather cap goes on top and it has a rotating damper plate. The damper plate will regulate the smoke and hot air exiting the top of the smoker.

          20210718_133832.jpg
          20210718_135514.jpg
          20210718_140832.jpg

          craigriceC Offline
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          craigrice
          Power User Canning Team Orange Regular Contributors Veteran Masterbuilt
          wrote on last edited by
          #53

          processhead nice !

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          • processheadP processhead

            Every smoker needs some means of controlling air flow through the chamber. Physics dictates that warm air rises so on a vertical smoker you normally see an air inlet in the bottom which draws ambient air and a discharge opening in the top where warm air and smoke exits. These opening will often has some sort of damper to control the rate of flow.

            I will be installing a 4 inch round duct thimble into the top of the smoker which will require cutting a 4 inch diameter hole through an inner and outer layer of sheet metal and about 1 1/2 inch layer of expanding foam that forms the insulating jacket of the old freezer.

            Many refrigerators and freezers will have condensing coils installed in the space between the inner and outer layer of the top and sides of the cabinet. This freezer did too and after cutting through the top, I was able to push the lines out of the way to continue all the way through.

            I used a 4 inch hole saw to cut the first hole in the top. The hole saw was difficult to control so I used a saber saw with a metal blade to cut the second hole through the inner layer of sheet metal.

            I flipped the cabinet over onto it’s top to make the second cut through the inner layer of sheet metal, which is why one of the photos looks upside down.

            After I cut the opening, I positioned the thimble in place and sealed it in with expanding foam. My experience with expanding foam is that once it has cured, it forms a very good seal and is mechanically very strong.

            The weather cap goes on top and it has a rotating damper plate. The damper plate will regulate the smoke and hot air exiting the top of the smoker.

            20210718_133832.jpg
            20210718_135514.jpg
            20210718_140832.jpg

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            wdaly
            Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill Team Orange Masterbuilt Power User Military Veterans Regular Contributors Yearling
            wrote on last edited by
            #54

            processhead Thanks for the update. Starting to take on it’s new life. Looks great!

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            • processheadP processhead

              cdavis said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

              processhead I’m beginning to think I may not be smart enough to do this. Lol. But I’m not giving up yet.

              Some guys will just use the hot plate control inside the smoker, but you won’t have the ability to control the temperature as accurately if you do.

              Also, you would have to open the door every time you made an adjustment, letting out heat in the process.

              Using external controls with the hot plate enables more precise control and is much more convenient.

              ChefC Offline
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              Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
              wrote on last edited by
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              processhead Have you worked with or researched any combination temperature and humidity controllers that you recommend? So many out there and quite a price range.

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                processhead Have you worked with or researched any combination temperature and humidity controllers that you recommend? So many out there and quite a price range.

                processheadP Offline
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                wrote on last edited by processhead
                #56

                Chef said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                processhead Have you worked with or researched any combination temperature and humidity controllers that you recommend? So many out there and quite a price range.

                I have not done much research, but am generally aware that the controls are out there and getting more affordable.

                What I have not seen are good plug and play humidity sources that are affordable and have good control capability for our processing applications.

                Paul

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                • ChefC Chef

                  processhead Have you worked with or researched any combination temperature and humidity controllers that you recommend? So many out there and quite a price range.

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                  wrote on last edited by JoeB
                  #57

                  Chef Done the build on the “Sausage Maker” combination temperature and humidity controller setup before. Getting hard to find metal lined refers to convert these days. Sausage Maker, Pricey but reliable. I will be in their Buffalo NY store in a few days. Will send pics and specs if you want. They do sell all the parts for the build as needed. Cheers

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                  • J JoeB

                    Chef Done the build on the “Sausage Maker” combination temperature and humidity controller setup before. Getting hard to find metal lined refers to convert these days. Sausage Maker, Pricey but reliable. I will be in their Buffalo NY store in a few days. Will send pics and specs if you want. They do sell all the parts for the build as needed. Cheers

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                    Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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                    JoeB Yes, please send pictures. I’ll be lining with sheet aluminum whatever unit I use.

                    Thanks

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                    • J JoeB

                      Chef Done the build on the “Sausage Maker” combination temperature and humidity controller setup before. Getting hard to find metal lined refers to convert these days. Sausage Maker, Pricey but reliable. I will be in their Buffalo NY store in a few days. Will send pics and specs if you want. They do sell all the parts for the build as needed. Cheers

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                      JoeB said in Electric Smoker OR Landfill: What say you?:

                      Chef Done the build on the “Sausage Maker” combination temperature and humidity controller setup before. Getting hard to find metal lined refers to convert these days. Sausage Maker, Pricey but reliable. I will be in their Buffalo NY store in a few days. Will send pics and specs if you want. They do sell all the parts for the build as needed. Cheers

                      I would be interested in seeing what they offer too. Thanks for offering pics and specs.

                      Paul

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                      • ChefC Chef

                        JoeB Yes, please send pictures. I’ll be lining with sheet aluminum whatever unit I use.

                        Thanks

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                        Chef Please to share your proposed method to line a refer with aluminum. What are you using to seal the vertical and horizonal meeting Planes?

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                          #61

                          Just a short progress report. The original plastic shelves on the door are gone and replaced with sheet metal. I used aluminum trim coil that I cut and fit to the same dimensions as the plastic shelf. The trim coil was not wide enough to do with a single piece of material so I cut two pieces that overlap and used contact cement to attach them together. You have to look hard to see the joint.
                          I hung the door back on the cabinet to convince myself I am making progress. lol

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                          Paul

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                            A lot of good work their

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                            • processheadP processhead

                              Just a short progress report. The original plastic shelves on the door are gone and replaced with sheet metal. I used aluminum trim coil that I cut and fit to the same dimensions as the plastic shelf. The trim coil was not wide enough to do with a single piece of material so I cut two pieces that overlap and used contact cement to attach them together. You have to look hard to see the joint.
                              I hung the door back on the cabinet to convince myself I am making progress. lol

                              20210726_103014.jpg

                              20210726_144134.jpg

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                              processhead Thanks for the update! Like many others here, I’m watching this build intently.

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                              • processheadP processhead

                                Just a short progress report. The original plastic shelves on the door are gone and replaced with sheet metal. I used aluminum trim coil that I cut and fit to the same dimensions as the plastic shelf. The trim coil was not wide enough to do with a single piece of material so I cut two pieces that overlap and used contact cement to attach them together. You have to look hard to see the joint.
                                I hung the door back on the cabinet to convince myself I am making progress. lol

                                20210726_103014.jpg

                                20210726_144134.jpg

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                                Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
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                                processhead thanks again for an update on the progress.

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                                • processheadP processhead

                                  Just a short progress report. The original plastic shelves on the door are gone and replaced with sheet metal. I used aluminum trim coil that I cut and fit to the same dimensions as the plastic shelf. The trim coil was not wide enough to do with a single piece of material so I cut two pieces that overlap and used contact cement to attach them together. You have to look hard to see the joint.
                                  I hung the door back on the cabinet to convince myself I am making progress. lol

                                  20210726_103014.jpg

                                  20210726_144134.jpg

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                                  processhead it’s looking good man.

                                  “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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                                    Making great progress keep going

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                                      Just a short progress report. The original plastic shelves on the door are gone and replaced with sheet metal. I used aluminum trim coil that I cut and fit to the same dimensions as the plastic shelf. The trim coil was not wide enough to do with a single piece of material so I cut two pieces that overlap and used contact cement to attach them together. You have to look hard to see the joint.
                                      I hung the door back on the cabinet to convince myself I am making progress. lol

                                      20210726_103014.jpg

                                      20210726_144134.jpg

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                                      Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill Team Orange Masterbuilt Power User Military Veterans Regular Contributors Yearling
                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      processhead looks great. Thanks for updating us.

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                                        Smoker!! Is it all metal inside?

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                                          If it still cools then a curing chamber would be my other thought, but you’ll need a lot more stuff to do that! My first attempt at a curing chamber is at the dump or maybe now part of a Chinese-made toy. The humidity control is a pain especially for us in the south…

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