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Cooking stall in my smoker HELP

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    akdave
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    I now use the 170 degree water bath for all my summer sausage and snack sticks as it insures a consistently cooked product and saves a lot of time and ensures a better appearance of the finished product, no burnt, shriveled ends etc. I now use the 1 1/2" diameter casings for my summer sausage as it gets to 140 degrees in 1/2 less time then 3" diameter casing I used to use and it also is the perfect size when sliced for crackers on cheese trays. The only other way I know of to reduce cooking times is to add moisture to the smoker with a pan of water with sponges floating on top to increase the moisture which increase the heat transfer but this does not nearly reduce the time that the water bath does so I use this method for whole smoked meats. I use a deep stainless steel steam table pan on my propane burner to do the water bath and have very little trouble regulating the water temp and can get 25 lb of snack sticks or summer sausage in one batch and when it reaches temp I dump the hot water out and add ice and cold water to stop the cooking process and then dry the finished product on a clean large bath towel.

    Dave

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    • C congo

      mrobisr
      HI,
      Do you an water agitator in the roaster oven?
      Lid on or off?
      175deg water? How long in the water roughly to achive 160 internal?

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      mrobisr
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      wrote on last edited by mrobisr
      #19

      congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

      mrobisr
      HI,
      Do you an water agitator in the roaster oven?
      Lid on or off?
      175deg water? How long in the water roughly to achive 160 internal?

      I use a s/s pot on and induction top w/o lid set on 176f
      hog casings take about10-15 minutes
      summer sauage 20-30 minutes

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      • C congo

        Kinda sounds like the way to go. Once you hit 160deg internal would you ice bath?
        Do you have to repack after the cook in the water? I’m very interested in this process. Sounds like it will take the summer sausage and sticks to the next level.
        Thanks JohnG5!

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        JohnG5
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        congo Yes Ice bath immediately after for about an hour.

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          processhead
          Regular Contributors Power User
          wrote on last edited by processhead
          #21

          I think often a temperature stall can be attributed to overfilling the smoker with product beyond its heating capacity, or smoking when the ambient temperature is too cold.
          Cold ambient temps makes it that much harder for the smoker to raise the internal temperature of the product inside it.

          Paul

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            congo
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            #22

            I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
            This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

            Thank You

            Duane

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            • C congo

              I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
              This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

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              Dr_Pain
              Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
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              congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

              I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
              This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

              Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

              P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

              Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends”

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              • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

                P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

                Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends”

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                samspade
                Team Orange Masterbuilt Sous Vide Team Blue Power User
                wrote on last edited by
                #24

                Dr_Pain you are correct about this site. When ever I look at facebook forums each one has trolls who make dumb/hurtful comments. Here you get support even if you post a burnt or subpar product. Thanks waltons and everyone here for being true to the trade.

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                • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                  congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                  I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                  This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                  Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

                  P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

                  Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends”

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                  Dr_Pain said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                  congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                  I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                  This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                  Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

                  P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

                  Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends.

                  Welcome back but, another edit. LOL.

                  It’s all about “Community” Thanks Doc!

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                    Ronald Shrout
                    Yearling
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                    #26

                    I don’t have a sous vide so I smoke till 140 then move them to my 175 degree oven till 155 then ice bath.

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                    • Ronald ShroutR Ronald Shrout

                      I don’t have a sous vide so I smoke till 140 then move them to my 175 degree oven till 155 then ice bath.

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                      akdave
                      Regular Contributors
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                      #27

                      Ronald Shrout

                      if you are trying of Finnish of summer sausage or snack sticks you dont need a sous vide, just a metal pan big enough to put the product in covered in water and set it on some kind of burner and heat water to 170degress and adjust burner to keep water between 165-175 degrees. the heat transfer in water is way better than air in an oven

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                      • A akdave

                        Ronald Shrout

                        if you are trying of Finnish of summer sausage or snack sticks you dont need a sous vide, just a metal pan big enough to put the product in covered in water and set it on some kind of burner and heat water to 170degress and adjust burner to keep water between 165-175 degrees. the heat transfer in water is way better than air in an oven

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                        Denny O
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                        akdave said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                        Ronald Shrout

                        if you are trying of Finnish of summer sausage

                        ohh, I’ve never had summer sausage from Finland before I wonder how theirs differ? Tee Hee hee

                        Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                        I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                        Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                          Dr_Pain said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                          congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                          I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                          This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                          Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

                          P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

                          Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends.

                          Welcome back but, another edit. LOL.

                          It’s all about “Community” Thanks Doc!

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                          Dr_Pain
                          Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #29

                          PapaSop said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                          Dr_Pain said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                          congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                          I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                          This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                          Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

                          P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

                          Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends.

                          Welcome back but, another edit. LOL.

                          It’s all about “Community” Thanks Doc!

                          HAHAHA!!! My wife would not be proud of me for this spelling error. Before becoming a school principal she was an English teacher ;). I will blame it on the fact that I have been having issues with my vision since the anesthesia. Thanks for the “welcome back” greeting 🙂

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                            Dr_Pain you are correct about this site. When ever I look at facebook forums each one has trolls who make dumb/hurtful comments. Here you get support even if you post a burnt or subpar product. Thanks waltons and everyone here for being true to the trade.

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                            Dr_Pain
                            Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            samspade said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                            Dr_Pain you are correct about this site. When ever I look at facebook forums each one has trolls who make dumb/hurtful comments. Here you get support even if you post a burnt or subpar product. Thanks waltons and everyone here for being true to the trade.

                            I’ve left most every forum and groups just for the reason you have mentioned above. I am still member of a couple of groups on FB but mostly to look at the pretty picture. I have zero footprints

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                              Ronald Shrout

                              if you are trying of Finnish of summer sausage or snack sticks you dont need a sous vide, just a metal pan big enough to put the product in covered in water and set it on some kind of burner and heat water to 170degress and adjust burner to keep water between 165-175 degrees. the heat transfer in water is way better than air in an oven

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                              Dr_Pain
                              Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
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                              akdave said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                              Ronald Shrout

                              if you are trying of Finnish of summer sausage or snack sticks you dont need a sous vide, just a metal pan big enough to put the product in covered in water and set it on some kind of burner and heat water to 170degress and adjust burner to keep water between 165-175 degrees. the heat transfer in water is way better than air in an oven

                              A couple of guys on here love to finish their snack sticks and sausage in a 18 Qt turkey roaster. It is like an oversized crock pot of some kind

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                                Ronald Shrout
                                Yearling
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                                Ok Thanks guys the wife would shoot me if I put her roaster on a burner…LOL But I do have a propane turkey fryer that I’ve never cooked a turkey in it works great for making my apple pie…LOL So I can heat water up in that so your saying smoke it to like 140 then put in the water to cook to 155 then put it in a ice bath ???

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                                • Ronald ShroutR Ronald Shrout

                                  Ok Thanks guys the wife would shoot me if I put her roaster on a burner…LOL But I do have a propane turkey fryer that I’ve never cooked a turkey in it works great for making my apple pie…LOL So I can heat water up in that so your saying smoke it to like 140 then put in the water to cook to 155 then put it in a ice bath ???

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                                  Ronald Shrout said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                                  Ok Thanks guys the wife would shoot me if I put her roaster on a burner…LOL But I do have a propane turkey fryer that I’ve never cooked a turkey in it works great for making my apple pie…LOL So I can heat water up in that so your saying smoke it to like 140 then put in the water to cook to 155 then put it in a ice bath ???

                                  Yep. That’ll work. Heat the water until it holds at 170.

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                                    akdave said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                                    Ronald Shrout

                                    if you are trying of Finnish of summer sausage or snack sticks you dont need a sous vide, just a metal pan big enough to put the product in covered in water and set it on some kind of burner and heat water to 170degress and adjust burner to keep water between 165-175 degrees. the heat transfer in water is way better than air in an oven

                                    A couple of guys on here love to finish their snack sticks and sausage in a 18 Qt turkey roaster. It is like an oversized crock pot of some kind

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                                    PapaSop
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                                    #34

                                    Dr_Pain
                                    Roaster oven.

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                                      samspade
                                      Team Orange Masterbuilt Sous Vide Team Blue Power User
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                                      I’ve got that same one same color and all.

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                                      • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                        Dr_Pain
                                        Roaster oven.

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                                        bocephus
                                        Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
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                                        PapaSop These also work great for a batch of sweet corn for a big group.

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                                        • B bocephus

                                          PapaSop These also work great for a batch of sweet corn for a big group.

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                                          bocephus said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                                          PapaSop These also work great for a batch of sweet corn for a big group.

                                          Fantastic idea never thought of that.

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