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Cooking stall in my smoker HELP

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  • C Offline
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    congo
    wrote on last edited by
    #13

    Hi Jamieson,
    What temp do you smoke to? 1 hr sound awesome.

    Thank You

    Duane

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      Grimpuppy
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      I set my sous vide at 170 in a cooler. The longest I have had a batch take to hit 160 when taken out of the smoker at 130 is 20 minutes. Small 10 pound batches are done in 10-15 minutes.

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      • C congo

        Hi Jamieson,
        What temp do you smoke to? 1 hr sound awesome.

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        Jamieson22
        Team Blue PK100 Regular Contributors Sous Vide Power User
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        #15

        congo I have only done a few times and usually it is when I am losing daylight for my smoke so often IT has been 140-145. I see many that plan to do sous vide pull it at 130F or so. Honestly main thing is making sure you get the smoke exposure you are after.

        What I like is while my middle summer sausage I probed may be 145F, the rest may be between 130 and 155F depending on where they were in smoker. So sous vide is a nice way to guarantee they all land at target temp.

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        • C congo

          I have a question to ask about cooking stalling out while i;m smoking summer sauage and sticks

          No matter what I do I cant get the internal temp to 160

          somwhere around 140 - 150 is as high as i can get it to go

          stick and summer sauage in the smoker for 11 -12 hrs

          I have 3 different thermometers for smoker temp and 3 different meat thermometer and they all pretty much agree with each other
          I believe the meat protein is good. I’ve been using Pepper Stick mix and Cranberry Flavored mix. Sure Cure, Sure Jell, Citric Acid
          Also following the cook schedule very close. Meat is very tacky prior to stuffing also

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          lkrfletcher
          Sous Vide Canning PK100 Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Veteran
          wrote on last edited by
          #16

          congo - This is a typical problem. For whatever the reason, it seems to always happen. I finished mine in sous vide bath like the others in the community. Sounds weird I know, but I was so satisfied doing this that it has become my norm. If you have the means, I would highly recommend this procedure. Waiting for hours and hours in the smoker while your casings dry out and harden did work for me. Like Papasop - I do not bag them and never had an issue.

          Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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            #17

            Thermoworks makes a waterproof probe and special tape for sous vide. No water in the vaccum bag. Works great for finishing sausages.

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              akdave
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              I now use the 170 degree water bath for all my summer sausage and snack sticks as it insures a consistently cooked product and saves a lot of time and ensures a better appearance of the finished product, no burnt, shriveled ends etc. I now use the 1 1/2" diameter casings for my summer sausage as it gets to 140 degrees in 1/2 less time then 3" diameter casing I used to use and it also is the perfect size when sliced for crackers on cheese trays. The only other way I know of to reduce cooking times is to add moisture to the smoker with a pan of water with sponges floating on top to increase the moisture which increase the heat transfer but this does not nearly reduce the time that the water bath does so I use this method for whole smoked meats. I use a deep stainless steel steam table pan on my propane burner to do the water bath and have very little trouble regulating the water temp and can get 25 lb of snack sticks or summer sausage in one batch and when it reaches temp I dump the hot water out and add ice and cold water to stop the cooking process and then dry the finished product on a clean large bath towel.

              Dave

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              • C congo

                mrobisr
                HI,
                Do you an water agitator in the roaster oven?
                Lid on or off?
                175deg water? How long in the water roughly to achive 160 internal?

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                mrobisr
                Team Blue Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
                wrote on last edited by mrobisr
                #19

                congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                mrobisr
                HI,
                Do you an water agitator in the roaster oven?
                Lid on or off?
                175deg water? How long in the water roughly to achive 160 internal?

                I use a s/s pot on and induction top w/o lid set on 176f
                hog casings take about10-15 minutes
                summer sauage 20-30 minutes

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                • C congo

                  Kinda sounds like the way to go. Once you hit 160deg internal would you ice bath?
                  Do you have to repack after the cook in the water? I’m very interested in this process. Sounds like it will take the summer sausage and sticks to the next level.
                  Thanks JohnG5!

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                  congo Yes Ice bath immediately after for about an hour.

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                    processhead
                    Regular Contributors Power User
                    wrote on last edited by processhead
                    #21

                    I think often a temperature stall can be attributed to overfilling the smoker with product beyond its heating capacity, or smoking when the ambient temperature is too cold.
                    Cold ambient temps makes it that much harder for the smoker to raise the internal temperature of the product inside it.

                    Paul

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                      congo
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                      #22

                      I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                      This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                      Thank You

                      Duane

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                      • C congo

                        I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                        This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

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                        Dr_Pain
                        Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #23

                        congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                        I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                        This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                        Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

                        P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

                        Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends”

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                        • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                          congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                          I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                          This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                          Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

                          P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

                          Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends”

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                          samspade
                          Team Orange Masterbuilt Sous Vide Team Blue Power User
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #24

                          Dr_Pain you are correct about this site. When ever I look at facebook forums each one has trolls who make dumb/hurtful comments. Here you get support even if you post a burnt or subpar product. Thanks waltons and everyone here for being true to the trade.

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                          • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                            congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                            I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                            This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                            Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

                            P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

                            Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends”

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                            Team Orange Power User Veteran
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #25

                            Dr_Pain said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                            congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                            I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                            This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                            Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

                            P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

                            Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends.

                            Welcome back but, another edit. LOL.

                            It’s all about “Community” Thanks Doc!

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                              Ronald Shrout
                              Yearling
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #26

                              I don’t have a sous vide so I smoke till 140 then move them to my 175 degree oven till 155 then ice bath.

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                              • Ronald ShroutR Ronald Shrout

                                I don’t have a sous vide so I smoke till 140 then move them to my 175 degree oven till 155 then ice bath.

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                                akdave
                                Regular Contributors
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #27

                                Ronald Shrout

                                if you are trying of Finnish of summer sausage or snack sticks you dont need a sous vide, just a metal pan big enough to put the product in covered in water and set it on some kind of burner and heat water to 170degress and adjust burner to keep water between 165-175 degrees. the heat transfer in water is way better than air in an oven

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                                  Ronald Shrout

                                  if you are trying of Finnish of summer sausage or snack sticks you dont need a sous vide, just a metal pan big enough to put the product in covered in water and set it on some kind of burner and heat water to 170degress and adjust burner to keep water between 165-175 degrees. the heat transfer in water is way better than air in an oven

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                                  Denny O
                                  Power User Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill
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                                  #28

                                  akdave said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                                  Ronald Shrout

                                  if you are trying of Finnish of summer sausage

                                  ohh, I’ve never had summer sausage from Finland before I wonder how theirs differ? Tee Hee hee

                                  Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                                  I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                                  Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                                  • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                    Dr_Pain said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                                    congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                                    I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                                    This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                                    Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

                                    P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

                                    Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends.

                                    Welcome back but, another edit. LOL.

                                    It’s all about “Community” Thanks Doc!

                                    Dr_PainD Offline
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                                    Dr_Pain
                                    Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #29

                                    PapaSop said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                                    Dr_Pain said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                                    congo said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                                    I would like to say THANK YOU ALL for your help and advice.
                                    This is by far the best form by a long shot. I belong to several fishing message boards, a few of them could take some lessons from the MEATGISTICS site.

                                    Ooooooo where is PapaSop!?! He said a bad world

                                    P.S. I am correcting it with the word Community LOL!!

                                    Just playing, I hope you know that! This community is beyond everything I’ve experienced myself. Glad to call a lot of them “friends.

                                    Welcome back but, another edit. LOL.

                                    It’s all about “Community” Thanks Doc!

                                    HAHAHA!!! My wife would not be proud of me for this spelling error. Before becoming a school principal she was an English teacher ;). I will blame it on the fact that I have been having issues with my vision since the anesthesia. Thanks for the “welcome back” greeting 🙂

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                                    • samspadeS samspade

                                      Dr_Pain you are correct about this site. When ever I look at facebook forums each one has trolls who make dumb/hurtful comments. Here you get support even if you post a burnt or subpar product. Thanks waltons and everyone here for being true to the trade.

                                      Dr_PainD Offline
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                                      Dr_Pain
                                      Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #30

                                      samspade said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                                      Dr_Pain you are correct about this site. When ever I look at facebook forums each one has trolls who make dumb/hurtful comments. Here you get support even if you post a burnt or subpar product. Thanks waltons and everyone here for being true to the trade.

                                      I’ve left most every forum and groups just for the reason you have mentioned above. I am still member of a couple of groups on FB but mostly to look at the pretty picture. I have zero footprints

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                                        Ronald Shrout

                                        if you are trying of Finnish of summer sausage or snack sticks you dont need a sous vide, just a metal pan big enough to put the product in covered in water and set it on some kind of burner and heat water to 170degress and adjust burner to keep water between 165-175 degrees. the heat transfer in water is way better than air in an oven

                                        Dr_PainD Offline
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                                        Dr_Pain
                                        Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #31

                                        akdave said in Cooking stall in my smoker HELP:

                                        Ronald Shrout

                                        if you are trying of Finnish of summer sausage or snack sticks you dont need a sous vide, just a metal pan big enough to put the product in covered in water and set it on some kind of burner and heat water to 170degress and adjust burner to keep water between 165-175 degrees. the heat transfer in water is way better than air in an oven

                                        A couple of guys on here love to finish their snack sticks and sausage in a 18 Qt turkey roaster. It is like an oversized crock pot of some kind

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                                          Ronald Shrout
                                          Yearling
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #32

                                          Ok Thanks guys the wife would shoot me if I put her roaster on a burner…LOL But I do have a propane turkey fryer that I’ve never cooked a turkey in it works great for making my apple pie…LOL So I can heat water up in that so your saying smoke it to like 140 then put in the water to cook to 155 then put it in a ice bath ???

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