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  • kyleK kyle

    glen thank you for your response. Do you put your meat in bags when finishing in water? I have been making sausage for many years, but this sous vide thing is all new to me. just want to learn a bit before investing in another “tool”

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    glen
    Regular Contributors Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Power User Meat Hack Winner Veteran
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    #23

    kyle I vacuum bag but many here swear by "naked " Which I haven’t tried
    I generally remove the product after short a heavy smoke then use the graduated step up heat method in the sous vide.
    Also remember the direct heat conductivity of souse vide heats the internals relatively quickly and in my humble opinion at temps higher than 160 you can quickly over heat the product if not careful.
    Monitor internals with your thermometer.
    Don’t be intimidated, it’s much easier to learn than smoking

    There are souse vide diameter/heat/time/pasteurization charts on line that are very helpful.
    Kind of hard to find and it just occurred to me to print them out next time I need them LOL

    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
    Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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      lkrfletcher
      Sous Vide Canning PK100 Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Veteran
      wrote on last edited by
      #24

      No bags are necessary

      Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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      • G glen

        kyle I’m not PapaSop but I will weigh in that I have used a unit very similar to the Weston on sale and for home use it has worked great for 2 yrs
        Also I highly recommend adapting an insulated cooler for your processing vessel
        I cut a snug fitting hole in the lid of a Coleman 20 can party stacker and am very happy with it

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        cdavis
        Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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        #25

        glen I’d like to see a picture of that if it’s not too much trouble. Thanks

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        • G glen

          kyle I vacuum bag but many here swear by "naked " Which I haven’t tried
          I generally remove the product after short a heavy smoke then use the graduated step up heat method in the sous vide.
          Also remember the direct heat conductivity of souse vide heats the internals relatively quickly and in my humble opinion at temps higher than 160 you can quickly over heat the product if not careful.
          Monitor internals with your thermometer.
          Don’t be intimidated, it’s much easier to learn than smoking

          There are souse vide diameter/heat/time/pasteurization charts on line that are very helpful.
          Kind of hard to find and it just occurred to me to print them out next time I need them LOL

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          cdavis
          Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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          #26

          glen I was asking for a picture of the cooler setup you use.

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            kyle
            Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
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            #27

            thanks to all for your input.

            hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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              glen
              Regular Contributors Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Power User Meat Hack Winner Veteran
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              #28

              Sous vide cooler 3.jpg Sous vide cooler 2.jpg Sous vide cooler1.jpg

              I used a PVC slip connector to make the hole solid and glued it in with expanding foam
              The black marks are from the drawing used to saw the hole, learned later they were permanent!
              If you are lucky you may find a hole saw the right size for yours

              Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
              Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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              • G glen

                Sous vide cooler 3.jpg Sous vide cooler 2.jpg Sous vide cooler1.jpg

                I used a PVC slip connector to make the hole solid and glued it in with expanding foam
                The black marks are from the drawing used to saw the hole, learned later they were permanent!
                If you are lucky you may find a hole saw the right size for yours

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                lkrfletcher
                Sous Vide Canning PK100 Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Veteran
                wrote on last edited by lkrfletcher
                #29

                glen
                That is perfect. I got to do it now too.

                Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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                  Jonathon
                  Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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                  glen that thing is awesome! kyle you don’t need an expensive unit unless you want to do large amounts of water. Honestly you could buy 2 of the weston ones and do the same/more water and still get out cheaper!

                  Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                    glen
                    Regular Contributors Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Power User Meat Hack Winner Veteran
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #31

                    Inside is 11"x8.5"x 13.5" deep
                    It holds the heat so well I could have gone bigger but it is just the right size for my needs

                    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
                    Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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                    • G glen

                      Inside is 11"x8.5"x 13.5" deep
                      It holds the heat so well I could have gone bigger but it is just the right size for my needs

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                      cdavis
                      Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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                      glen Thanks for the pictures. I see this in near future. Awesome 👌

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                      • G glen

                        Sous vide cooler 3.jpg Sous vide cooler 2.jpg Sous vide cooler1.jpg

                        I used a PVC slip connector to make the hole solid and glued it in with expanding foam
                        The black marks are from the drawing used to saw the hole, learned later they were permanent!
                        If you are lucky you may find a hole saw the right size for yours

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                        glen
                        Great idea.

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                        • kyleK kyle

                          Jonathon thanks. So the one you have on sale for $75, would that be a good place to start, or would I be better off with the more expensive one? I hate to spend a lot on something I don’t understand. I did go back and watch your videos on this again. I know PapaSop started doing this. what one does he have?

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                          #34

                          kyle
                          IMG_20200922_145620_copy_1075x605.jpg IMG_20200922_145542_copy_1075x605.jpg
                          A couple pics. May have some more if I can find them.

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                            blackbetty61
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                            I use a electric roaster works great get my water to 160-165 while meat is in the smoker pull it when it’s 140° into the water no vac bags I do everything that way now saves so much time I can get 12# snack sticks or 4 summer sausage logs 2.9x20

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                            • kyleK kyle

                              smokinbubba do you lose any flavor in the water? For some reason in my mind, I think how you boil other things to make stock

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                              smokinbubba
                              Team Orange Sous Vide Regular Contributors
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                              kyle no difference in flavor or texture. Seemed to be less dry which was expected

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                                Also, I run an elcheapo yissvic unit from Amazon and use a 40qt plastic storage tote for a vessel. Took a while to get up to 175 but was worth the wait!! Easily held 7 2.5x24 logs of trail.

                                If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy - Red Green

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                                  kyle
                                  Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
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                                  #38

                                  Thanks everyone. Cooler idea is great

                                  hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                  • G glen

                                    kyle I vacuum bag but many here swear by "naked " Which I haven’t tried
                                    I generally remove the product after short a heavy smoke then use the graduated step up heat method in the sous vide.
                                    Also remember the direct heat conductivity of souse vide heats the internals relatively quickly and in my humble opinion at temps higher than 160 you can quickly over heat the product if not careful.
                                    Monitor internals with your thermometer.
                                    Don’t be intimidated, it’s much easier to learn than smoking

                                    There are souse vide diameter/heat/time/pasteurization charts on line that are very helpful.
                                    Kind of hard to find and it just occurred to me to print them out next time I need them LOL

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                                    burgetdk
                                    Yearling
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #39

                                    glen
                                    Can you please explain, What is your “graduated step up heat method in the sous vide?”.

                                    I vac sealed my sticks in 21 CM casing and set sous vide to 155 for 2 hours. Then ice bathed. Appreciate if you could explain your process using the sous Vide.

                                    Also, can you point me to the charts you referenced below…
                                    “There are souse vide diameter/heat/time/pasteurization charts on line that are very helpful”.

                                    Thank you!

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                                      glen
                                      Can you please explain, What is your “graduated step up heat method in the sous vide?”.

                                      I vac sealed my sticks in 21 CM casing and set sous vide to 155 for 2 hours. Then ice bathed. Appreciate if you could explain your process using the sous Vide.

                                      Also, can you point me to the charts you referenced below…
                                      “There are souse vide diameter/heat/time/pasteurization charts on line that are very helpful”.

                                      Thank you!

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                                      glen
                                      Regular Contributors Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Power User Meat Hack Winner Veteran
                                      wrote on last edited by glen
                                      #40

                                      burgetdk If I am smoking the sticks I usually give them about 1/2 hr at 110 with vents wide open to dry, then heavy smoke at 120F for an hour, then SV at 135F for 1/2 hr. increase to 150 - 155F in SV for around 45 min, then Ice bath, then air drying. I should note I use cure #1 in my sticks.
                                      In other words I basically use the same product temp graduation as the smoker schedule just much shorter times are needed and because of the temperature transfer speed I don’t need the higher temps associated with finishing in the smoker.
                                      If I don’t want smoke in my product I use the same schedule starting at 110F totally in SV

                                      This chart when used in the context of the whole article (especially the paragraph below the chart) is a great guide
                                      https://stefangourmet.com/2018/04/01/how-to-choose-time-and-temperature-to-cook-meat-sous-vide/

                                      The next article with charts explains the time/temp lethality explaining you don’t necessarily need to go to 160F to be safe
                                      https://www.food-safety.com/articles/4722-the-danger-zone-reevaluated

                                      Some will never fell safe not taking temps to 160 and that is fine, do what you are comfortable with
                                      For instance I do not want to eat pink pork even it is OK now

                                      Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
                                      Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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                                      • G glen

                                        burgetdk If I am smoking the sticks I usually give them about 1/2 hr at 110 with vents wide open to dry, then heavy smoke at 120F for an hour, then SV at 135F for 1/2 hr. increase to 150 - 155F in SV for around 45 min, then Ice bath, then air drying. I should note I use cure #1 in my sticks.
                                        In other words I basically use the same product temp graduation as the smoker schedule just much shorter times are needed and because of the temperature transfer speed I don’t need the higher temps associated with finishing in the smoker.
                                        If I don’t want smoke in my product I use the same schedule starting at 110F totally in SV

                                        This chart when used in the context of the whole article (especially the paragraph below the chart) is a great guide
                                        https://stefangourmet.com/2018/04/01/how-to-choose-time-and-temperature-to-cook-meat-sous-vide/

                                        The next article with charts explains the time/temp lethality explaining you don’t necessarily need to go to 160F to be safe
                                        https://www.food-safety.com/articles/4722-the-danger-zone-reevaluated

                                        Some will never fell safe not taking temps to 160 and that is fine, do what you are comfortable with
                                        For instance I do not want to eat pink pork even it is OK now

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                                        burgetdk
                                        Yearling
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                                        glen thank you!

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