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  • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

    Jonathon I did pepperoni snack sticks for the shop yesterday and had planned on doing a water bath but I just wasn’t easily set up for it. Our cookshack doesn’t have the programming capability I wish it had so I ran at 160 for an hour and a half and approx another hour at 180 with smoke until I hit 160 followed by an ice bath. They were by far my best sticks to date.

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    Joe Hell wow joe that’s great they turned out. but iv never had any luck with those high of temps to start with.but 180 for finish many times.

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    • farmer jimF farmer jim

      blackbetty61 I have done water baths many times because its faster.but I do see that some of the flaver gos away and it washes the smoke off the caseings but all in all I still do it today.

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      blackbetty61
      Team Blue Regular Contributors Canning Green Mountain Grill Veteran Cast Iron
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      farmer jim
      Yea I’ll just have to try it again and monitor it really close…maybe add a tish more seasoning 🤷‍♂️ I like it cause it’s way faster than 13-14 hours in the smoker

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      • farmer jimF farmer jim

        Joe Hell wow joe that’s great they turned out. but iv never had any luck with those high of temps to start with.but 180 for finish many times.

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        farmer jim I made another batch last night. Once again the cookshack was faster and hotter than expected. I had the temp set to 160 and it cruised along at 180+. The sticks were done in about 1 hr. 20 and surprisingly perfect.

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          I have been making a chart for my smoker and noting the thermostat setting and the actual temperature as there is no way to calibrate most of the thermostats we have on our smokers, sounds like the 160 setting is perfect for your smoker… I give you A++++ on presentation, send me some and will be glad to rate texture and flavor…

          Dave

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          • blackbetty61B blackbetty61

            Parksider
            We always take some outta the mixer and fry it up… we usually do #25 batches to make things easy so I don’t think it’s the seasoning…guess I’ll have to try the water bath again…kinda curious has anyone ever tried using a roaster for a water bath?

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            blackbetty61 We have been using turkey roasters for years (no exaggeration, over 1000 lbs worth over the last 15 yrs) to hot water bath our sticks and sausage. They always turn out great and have never had them lose seasoning.

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            • J jboz51

              blackbetty61 We have been using turkey roasters for years (no exaggeration, over 1000 lbs worth over the last 15 yrs) to hot water bath our sticks and sausage. They always turn out great and have never had them lose seasoning.

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              jboz51 I’m gonna try the water bath again in a couple weeks I plan on doing some summer in just the smoker and some in the smoker then move to the water when they reach 140° to see which I like better

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                jboz51 What temp are you running the roasters at?

                John C.

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                  jboz51 What temp are you running the roasters at?

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                  Parksider When we started doing it we always kept the water under 200 degrees, if it went above that we would get some casing blow outs. The last year, based on info from this site we have been keeping it between 170 -175 to avoid the fat melting, seems to work as good/fast so will be sticking with the 170-175 range. If your roaster just has a dial you really have to keep an eye on the water temp with a thermometer and adjust accordingly.

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                    And just to clarify, we bring the sticks up to about 145 degrees in the smoker, cut into the lengths we want to package (either 4 or 8 inches), add to the hot water baths and cook until 160 degrees, then cold water bath, air dry for an hour or so, then vacuum seal. IMG_0738.jpg

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                    • J jboz51

                      And just to clarify, we bring the sticks up to about 145 degrees in the smoker, cut into the lengths we want to package (either 4 or 8 inches), add to the hot water baths and cook until 160 degrees, then cold water bath, air dry for an hour or so, then vacuum seal. IMG_0738.jpg

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                      jboz51
                      Nice looking run of sticks.

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                        jboz51 Yeah, I’ve never used a roaster, we use commercial roasting pan or turkey fryer with the basket on propane. That can be tough getting it dialed into the 170 marker. We also have just put the pot on top of the wood stove and ran it that way, like the old school feel… I was looking for a large stainless steel box to do 60#-80# at one time and I ran across a maple syrup operation liquidating some equipment and found the evaporator box would be about the right size…still working on that one!

                        John C.

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                          jboz51 Yeah, I’ve never used a roaster, we use commercial roasting pan or turkey fryer with the basket on propane. That can be tough getting it dialed into the 170 marker. We also have just put the pot on top of the wood stove and ran it that way, like the old school feel… I was looking for a large stainless steel box to do 60#-80# at one time and I ran across a maple syrup operation liquidating some equipment and found the evaporator box would be about the right size…still working on that one!

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                          Parksider
                          Just picked up the Weston Sous Vide circulator. Going to try that on next batch. Tried your turkey cooker method this past spring and it worked great but a little hard to control the temp as you said. Tough part now is waiting. Busiest time at work with the holidays and everything else. After the first…game on.

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                            There are Sous Vide controllers out there that you can plug anything into such as a roaster pan or slow cooker. It will cycle the power to the appliance to keep the water temp closer to what you want. If you really want to get fancy you could get a PID controller that learns how your appliance heats up and cools down and will cycle the power to keep the temp VERY close to your set temp.

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                            • RatguyGaryR RatguyGary

                              There are Sous Vide controllers out there that you can plug anything into such as a roaster pan or slow cooker. It will cycle the power to the appliance to keep the water temp closer to what you want. If you really want to get fancy you could get a PID controller that learns how your appliance heats up and cools down and will cycle the power to keep the temp VERY close to your set temp.

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                              RatguyGary I run a PID on my smoker works great!

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                                Awesome set up. I am a definite believer in this method.

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                                • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                                  farmer jim I made another batch last night. Once again the cookshack was faster and hotter than expected. I had the temp set to 160 and it cruised along at 180+. The sticks were done in about 1 hr. 20 and surprisingly perfect.

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                                  Joe Hell
                                  Hey Joe , no ramp up in temp just straight 160. ?

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                                    Joe Hell
                                    Hey Joe , no ramp up in temp just straight 160. ?

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                                    blackjac That is correct but I wouldn’t recommend that technique. I may have just got lucky on that one!

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