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    bocephus said in Jon's AR build begins!:

    Jonathon Always a good idea to go through a training class, also good to have someone other than yourself give your wife instructions.

    Agree with bocephus on both counts. It doesn’t have to be formal training. It can be just some range time with a knowledgeable, experienced shooter.

    A hunter education class can be a good resource since they always stress fire arm safety, which should be the number one priority.

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    processhead I’m always shocked when I read someone got shot cleaning a gun. First thing that should be done is making sure the gun isn’t loaded.

    Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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      processhead I’m always shocked when I read someone got shot cleaning a gun. First thing that should be done is making sure the gun isn’t loaded.

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      Tex_77 Amen! Definitely shouldn’t happen. It is too important to be lackadaisical while handling a weapon.

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        processhead I’m always shocked when I read someone got shot cleaning a gun. First thing that should be done is making sure the gun isn’t loaded.

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        Tex_77

        Just my opinion, there would be way fewer accidental shootings if a person had to take a test and recite from memory the 10 rules of firearm safety before they could own a gun.

        https://www.nssf.org/safety/rules-firearms-safety/

        Paul

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          Tex_77

          Just my opinion, there would be way fewer accidental shootings if a person had to take a test and recite from memory the 10 rules of firearm safety before they could own a gun.

          https://www.nssf.org/safety/rules-firearms-safety/

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          processhead said in Jon's AR build begins!:

          Tex_77

          Just my opinion, there would be way fewer accidental shootings if a person had to take a test and recite from memory the 10 rules of firearm safety before they could own a gun.

          https://www.nssf.org/safety/rules-firearms-safety/

          That maybe true, but gun ownership is a right and that would be unconstitutional.

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            Tex_77

            Just my opinion, there would be way fewer accidental shootings if a person had to take a test and recite from memory the 10 rules of firearm safety before they could own a gun.

            https://www.nssf.org/safety/rules-firearms-safety/

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            processhead I took gun safety when I was young, dad said no hunting without it. In MN you used to be able to hunt without a license, just use your hunter safety certificate I think until 15. When my wife wanted to start shooting she went to hunter safety with a friend here in NM.

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              processhead I took gun safety when I was young, dad said no hunting without it. In MN you used to be able to hunt without a license, just use your hunter safety certificate I think until 15. When my wife wanted to start shooting she went to hunter safety with a friend here in NM.

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              bocephus said in Jon's AR build begins!:

              processhead I took gun safety when I was young, dad said no hunting without it. In MN you used to be able to hunt without a license, just use your hunter safety certificate I think until 15. When my wife wanted to start shooting she went to hunter safety with a friend here in NM.

              In Nebraska hunters between the age of 12 and 29 need to have a hunter education training certificate to purchase a hunting license. Older hunters are “grandfathered”, but under the current system, eventually all hunters will have had hunter education training.

              Paul

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                processhead .38 ACP 1911 story time. As a young Sergeant assigned to the range, I was the only one working on the range when a local historic park employee brought in a confiscated Colt 1911 .38 ACP that the Dayton Police Department took off of John Dillinger when he was arrested in 1933. They were asking me to disable the gun by welding the barrel or some other permanent disabling measure. After begging them not to ever do that, I figured out a way to disable it without destroying it. I don’t want to get into details since the gun is still on display. I told them I would need a few minutes and of course began looking for any .38 ACP we might have had in our ammo inventory. Well maybe I did and maybe I didn’t get to fire one round out of the gun before disabling it. So about 71 years after his arrest, I can say that I disabled John Dillinger’s 1911 .38 and kept it’s historic value. The gun had been engraved and awarded by the Courts to the then Chief of Police Rudy Wurstner. Chief Wurstner’s family donated the gun to Dayton History and even included a copy of the Jewelry shop receipt when it was engraved for Chief Wurstner. The last time I visited, the gun was still on display at Carillon Historical Park. Who says history can’t be fun. https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/pistol-taken-from-famous-gangster-part-exhibit-opening-this-fall/DRl5yKd6ERIu6eOF0iFOmL/

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                GWG8541 great story. Thanks 👍

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                  2 things. 1st, a lot of states now allow for an online hunters’ safety class. KS is one of those states. https://www.hunter-ed.com/kansas/

                  2nd has anyone had the same issues I am having with Palmetto State Armory? I ordered on the 30th of last month, just today they finally have sent the final things and it will be sent in a total of 6 different packages. 2 of them with a “custom carrier” that offers no tracking information. Now, I like them in general so I am hoping there is a good reason for this that as a first-time gun builder I am unaware of but I split the order between them and righttobear and they sent my full order the very next business day.

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                  • JonathonJ Jonathon

                    2 things. 1st, a lot of states now allow for an online hunters’ safety class. KS is one of those states. https://www.hunter-ed.com/kansas/

                    2nd has anyone had the same issues I am having with Palmetto State Armory? I ordered on the 30th of last month, just today they finally have sent the final things and it will be sent in a total of 6 different packages. 2 of them with a “custom carrier” that offers no tracking information. Now, I like them in general so I am hoping there is a good reason for this that as a first-time gun builder I am unaware of but I split the order between them and righttobear and they sent my full order the very next business day.

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                    Jonathon said in Jon's AR build begins!:

                    2 things. 1st, a lot of states now allow for an online hunters’ safety class. KS is one of those states. https://www.hunter-ed.com/kansas/

                    2nd has anyone had the same issues I am having with Palmetto State Armory? I ordered on the 30th of last month, just today they finally have sent the final things and it will be sent in a total of 6 different packages. 2 of them with a “custom carrier” that offers no tracking information. Now, I like them in general so I am hoping there is a good reason for this that as a first-time gun builder I am unaware of but I split the order between them and righttobear and they sent my full order the very next business day.

                    I have not dealt with them personally, but my guess is Palmetto is drop shipping separate items directly to you from their suppliers/subcontractors to avoid delays from having to reship them to you after they get them. Typical supply chain delays.

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                    • JonathonJ Jonathon

                      2 things. 1st, a lot of states now allow for an online hunters’ safety class. KS is one of those states. https://www.hunter-ed.com/kansas/

                      2nd has anyone had the same issues I am having with Palmetto State Armory? I ordered on the 30th of last month, just today they finally have sent the final things and it will be sent in a total of 6 different packages. 2 of them with a “custom carrier” that offers no tracking information. Now, I like them in general so I am hoping there is a good reason for this that as a first-time gun builder I am unaware of but I split the order between them and righttobear and they sent my full order the very next business day.

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                      Jonathon Having hunter safety is a requirement more and more states are requiring in order to buy a licenses. I think it is a good thing and is pretty easy in most states to take the courese on line or in person. Even if a person isn’t going to hunt it is a good idea to take the course, it stresses gun safety.

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                        I figured every state required hunter ed. It was required in Kansas when I first started hunting in the early 80’s.

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                          I figured every state required hunter ed. It was required in Kansas when I first started hunting in the early 80’s.

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                          Grimpuppy A lot of states grandfather older people (born before a certain date) in, so they don’t need hunter safety.

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                            Yeah I’m all for Hunters education. I think 25 is a.legit.cutoff age though. Above that, your really aren’t going to learn anything new. U less you want to do.muzzle loading for the 1st time.

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                              Yeah I’m all for Hunters education. I think 25 is a.legit.cutoff age though. Above that, your really aren’t going to learn anything new. U less you want to do.muzzle loading for the 1st time.

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                              Jonathon said in Jon's AR build begins!:

                              Yeah I’m all for Hunters education. I think 25 is a.legit.cutoff age though. Above that, your really aren’t going to learn anything new. U less you want to do.muzzle loading for the 1st time.

                              Well sorry, I would beg to differ, sir.

                              Just because I am 26 or 56, and I decide to take up hunting or shooting sports, it simply can’t be assumed that I have any background in firearm safety and gun ownership that would somehow automatically make me a competent and safe gun owner.

                              Fortunately, many of the states with cutoff dates have had those rules on the books for a few years now. It stands to reason that a lot of middle-aged hunters and shooters have had hunter education by now due to the length of time the rules have been on the books.

                              Paul

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                                Jonathon said in Jon's AR build begins!:

                                Yeah I’m all for Hunters education. I think 25 is a.legit.cutoff age though. Above that, your really aren’t going to learn anything new. U less you want to do.muzzle loading for the 1st time.

                                Well sorry, I would beg to differ, sir.

                                Just because I am 26 or 56, and I decide to take up hunting or shooting sports, it simply can’t be assumed that I have any background in firearm safety and gun ownership that would somehow automatically make me a competent and safe gun owner.

                                Fortunately, many of the states with cutoff dates have had those rules on the books for a few years now. It stands to reason that a lot of middle-aged hunters and shooters have had hunter education by now due to the length of time the rules have been on the books.

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                                processhead and this is exactly why Jonathon is going to shoot his eye out…

                                Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                                  processhead and this is exactly why Jonathon is going to shoot his eye out…

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                                  Tex_77 said in Jon's AR build begins!:

                                  processhead and this is exactly why Jonathon is going to shoot his eye out…

                                  Can we trust him with a cap gun? 😲

                                  Paul

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                                    Tex_77 said in Jon's AR build begins!:

                                    processhead and this is exactly why Jonathon is going to shoot his eye out…

                                    Can we trust him with a cap gun? 😲

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                                    processhead maybe we trust him with a finger gun.

                                    Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                                    • Tex_77T Tex_77

                                      processhead maybe we trust him with a finger gun.

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                                      Tex_77 said in Jon's AR build begins!:

                                      processhead may we trust him with a finger gun.

                                      Nope. Too sharp.
                                      Jonathon will still put out his eye, plus he might break his finger.

                                      Paul

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                                        Tex_77 said in Jon's AR build begins!:

                                        processhead and this is exactly why Jonathon is going to shoot his eye out…

                                        Can we trust him with a cap gun? 😲

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                                        processhead You guys are wonderfully brutal. Re: cap gun!!!

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                                          Tex_77 said in Jon's AR build begins!:

                                          processhead and this is exactly why Jonathon is going to shoot his eye out…

                                          Can we trust him with a cap gun? 😲

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                                          processhead Maybe a squirt gun, then he would just rinse his eye out. We have already watched him with the salt gun, looks dangerous with that.

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