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  • RafterWR RafterW

    mrobisr nice, these will hopefully be ready to process at 10 weeks. I’ve got a mobile coop wagon that I will move within a 650 square foot electrified net from Premier1. They will be about three days behind my cows in the pasture, the cows get moved daily, the premier1 fence will get moved every third day and their wagon/coop will get moved daily within the fencing.

    Main goal is to get a second source of manure on the pasture, while also spreading the cow manure, feeding on the fly larvae and foraging for insects to help reduce my feed cost for the chickens. This is why I chose a red ranger over a Cornish cross, these chicks are already scratching in their bedding at less than a week old!

    Secondary goal is the meat source from the chickens. I’m shooting for a target of no more than 1.66/lb of feed/bird over the course of 10 weeks, with the supplemental food source that the pasture offers.

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    RafterW
    Sounds like you got the science and the metrics figured out for maximum productivity. You must have done your share of research on best-practices.

    Paul

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      RafterW
      Sounds like you got the science and the metrics figured out for maximum productivity. You must have done your share of research on best-practices.

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      Tex_77
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      processhead With his background in precision ag, I bet he has it down to a science! Maybe he will move on to ostrich or something more exotic next.

      Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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      • RafterWR RafterW

        mrobisr nice, these will hopefully be ready to process at 10 weeks. I’ve got a mobile coop wagon that I will move within a 650 square foot electrified net from Premier1. They will be about three days behind my cows in the pasture, the cows get moved daily, the premier1 fence will get moved every third day and their wagon/coop will get moved daily within the fencing.

        Main goal is to get a second source of manure on the pasture, while also spreading the cow manure, feeding on the fly larvae and foraging for insects to help reduce my feed cost for the chickens. This is why I chose a red ranger over a Cornish cross, these chicks are already scratching in their bedding at less than a week old!

        Secondary goal is the meat source from the chickens. I’m shooting for a target of no more than 1.66/lb of feed/bird over the course of 10 weeks, with the supplemental food source that the pasture offers.

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        RafterW I really love reading this well thought out kinda science based agriculture. I’ve never done it myself, but I find it incredibly interesting. I’m looking forward to hearing how these chicks do and your feed rates, etc! Thx!

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          I’ll keep you all posted.

          Matt W.

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          • RafterWR RafterW

            I’ll keep you all posted.

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            RafterW what if the sasquatch on the Ninnescah river gets your birds? Austin

            Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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              RafterW what if the sasquatch on the Ninnescah river gets your birds? Austin

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              Tex_77 I haven’t put any thought into that scenario. The squatch would likely defeat my electrified perimeter netting and be able to unlatch the lid of the coop.

              I feel there is a story to the ninnescah Sasquatch, that I’m not privy to lol.

              Matt W.

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              • RafterWR RafterW

                Tex_77 I haven’t put any thought into that scenario. The squatch would likely defeat my electrified perimeter netting and be able to unlatch the lid of the coop.

                I feel there is a story to the ninnescah Sasquatch, that I’m not privy to lol.

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                RafterW well here are a few articles:

                Observation of a Bigfoot eating mussels on the Ninnescah River

                Two motorists spot a Sasquatch TWO DAYS AGO on South Fork Ninnescah River 30 miles west of Witchita

                The Legend of Sinkhole Sam

                Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                  WAIT WAIT WAIT…Big foot? What the heck is going on in this thread? If anyone is curious I go back and forth but I will say this. Driving from Wichita to Missoula just reinforced how HUGE this country is and how empty a lot of that is, so COULD it exist? Yes, does it exist? I don’t know!

                  RafterW We found a dead duck and some eggs in a nest near it. We waited 6 or so hours after finding the nest to see if a duck came back and none did, so we have them in an incubator in the basement. Are they going to hatch? Probably not. Looks like more than 4 hours without a momma duck sitting on them will basically kill or prevent them from developing but we bought the incubator because at some point in the future we want to have chickens!

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                  • JonathonJ Jonathon

                    WAIT WAIT WAIT…Big foot? What the heck is going on in this thread? If anyone is curious I go back and forth but I will say this. Driving from Wichita to Missoula just reinforced how HUGE this country is and how empty a lot of that is, so COULD it exist? Yes, does it exist? I don’t know!

                    RafterW We found a dead duck and some eggs in a nest near it. We waited 6 or so hours after finding the nest to see if a duck came back and none did, so we have them in an incubator in the basement. Are they going to hatch? Probably not. Looks like more than 4 hours without a momma duck sitting on them will basically kill or prevent them from developing but we bought the incubator because at some point in the future we want to have chickens!

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                    Jonathon who knows on the eggs, but it is worth a shot since you’ve got the equipment! Give it about a month in the incubator since you don’t know how old the eggs are, if nothing happens by day 30, I’d bet that nothing will happen.

                    Matt W.

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                    • JonathonJ Jonathon

                      WAIT WAIT WAIT…Big foot? What the heck is going on in this thread? If anyone is curious I go back and forth but I will say this. Driving from Wichita to Missoula just reinforced how HUGE this country is and how empty a lot of that is, so COULD it exist? Yes, does it exist? I don’t know!

                      RafterW We found a dead duck and some eggs in a nest near it. We waited 6 or so hours after finding the nest to see if a duck came back and none did, so we have them in an incubator in the basement. Are they going to hatch? Probably not. Looks like more than 4 hours without a momma duck sitting on them will basically kill or prevent them from developing but we bought the incubator because at some point in the future we want to have chickens!

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                      Jonathon If they don’t hatch by 30 days in the incubator be carful how you handle them LOL

                      Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
                      Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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                      • RafterWR RafterW

                        Tex_77 I haven’t put any thought into that scenario. The squatch would likely defeat my electrified perimeter netting and be able to unlatch the lid of the coop.

                        I feel there is a story to the ninnescah Sasquatch, that I’m not privy to lol.

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                        @rafterwJust put a good game camera and with the pictures you will be able to buy all the chicken you want.

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                        • RafterWR RafterW

                          mrobisr nice, these will hopefully be ready to process at 10 weeks. I’ve got a mobile coop wagon that I will move within a 650 square foot electrified net from Premier1. They will be about three days behind my cows in the pasture, the cows get moved daily, the premier1 fence will get moved every third day and their wagon/coop will get moved daily within the fencing.

                          Main goal is to get a second source of manure on the pasture, while also spreading the cow manure, feeding on the fly larvae and foraging for insects to help reduce my feed cost for the chickens. This is why I chose a red ranger over a Cornish cross, these chicks are already scratching in their bedding at less than a week old!

                          Secondary goal is the meat source from the chickens. I’m shooting for a target of no more than 1.66/lb of feed/bird over the course of 10 weeks, with the supplemental food source that the pasture offers.

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                          RafterW Sounds like a solid workable plan to me.

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                            Jonathon If you don’t already know, Yoder has a pretty large animal auction on the last Friday of each month. Keim Auction is who puts it on. They often have fertilized eggs by the thousands that sell there. Its pretty wild lol, its where rednecks and the Amish/Mennonite gather in one place together haha!

                            Matt W.

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                              Jonathon If you don’t already know, Yoder has a pretty large animal auction on the last Friday of each month. Keim Auction is who puts it on. They often have fertilized eggs by the thousands that sell there. Its pretty wild lol, its where rednecks and the Amish/Mennonite gather in one place together haha!

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                              RafterW now that sounds like a fun time!

                              Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                                RafterW now that sounds like a fun time!

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                                Tex_77 The people-watching opportunities are spectacular!

                                Matt W.

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                                  The meat birds are growing fast. Come Wednesday, they will be a full two weeks old. Feathers are starting to come
                                  On, and their legs are really beefing up. They are guzzling water and feed rapidly as they grow. They are approx 2.5x larger than when they arrived via mail.

                                  E29468BC-91E5-4613-AF74-F1FEBADD761D.jpeg

                                  Matt W.

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                                  • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                    WAIT WAIT WAIT…Big foot? What the heck is going on in this thread? If anyone is curious I go back and forth but I will say this. Driving from Wichita to Missoula just reinforced how HUGE this country is and how empty a lot of that is, so COULD it exist? Yes, does it exist? I don’t know!

                                    RafterW We found a dead duck and some eggs in a nest near it. We waited 6 or so hours after finding the nest to see if a duck came back and none did, so we have them in an incubator in the basement. Are they going to hatch? Probably not. Looks like more than 4 hours without a momma duck sitting on them will basically kill or prevent them from developing but we bought the incubator because at some point in the future we want to have chickens!

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                                    Jonathon I had a friend that raised pheasants, you would be surprised at the many different breeds there are out there. He had a pretty big set up and I would help. We collected eggs put them in the incubator and watching them grow from chicks to adults was very interesting.

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                                    • RafterWR RafterW

                                      The meat birds are growing fast. Come Wednesday, they will be a full two weeks old. Feathers are starting to come
                                      On, and their legs are really beefing up. They are guzzling water and feed rapidly as they grow. They are approx 2.5x larger than when they arrived via mail.

                                      E29468BC-91E5-4613-AF74-F1FEBADD761D.jpeg

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                                      RafterW they’re looking great 👍. Keep it up.

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                                      • RafterWR RafterW

                                        The meat birds are growing fast. Come Wednesday, they will be a full two weeks old. Feathers are starting to come
                                        On, and their legs are really beefing up. They are guzzling water and feed rapidly as they grow. They are approx 2.5x larger than when they arrived via mail.

                                        E29468BC-91E5-4613-AF74-F1FEBADD761D.jpeg

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                                        RafterW They are looking good, keep posting updates.

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                                          Friend of the wife had a duckling follow her home. She been feeding it for a week and said its doubled in size. I screamed DUCK SAUSAGE into the phone. The bump should heal soon.

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