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What's your next Meat Project?

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  • processheadP processhead

    processhead said in What's your next Meat Project?:

    calldoctoday said in What's your next Meat Project?:

    Any ideas on making a smoked brat using Blue Ribbon brat seasoning with about an ounce or less for 25 pounds of pork of Maple Bacon cure, mixed, stuffed, & smoked to 145. Is this asking for trouble or has anyone tried this successfully to get a little more pronounced & smokey flavor into the brat?

    The blue ribbon brat seasoning will already have some salt in it. The Maple bacon cure will also have a lot of salt in it, so you will need to proceed with caution as you add it or your brats could be overly salty.
    This is definitely one I would do a small scaled down test batch on till you get the flavor right.

    The other unknown factor is how much nitrite you would be adding to the smoked brats. Since you are smoking, you definitely want to add nitrite, but you need to know how much you would be getting from the maple bacon cure.

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    processhead So the remedy here would just to be wrap the bacon around the brat and cook on the cast iron griddle like a Sonoran hotdog.

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      processhead So the remedy here would just to be wrap the bacon around the brat and cook on the cast iron griddle like a Sonoran hotdog.

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      HerbcoFood said in What's your next Meat Project?:

      processhead So the remedy here would just to be wrap the bacon around the brat and cook on the cast iron griddle like a Sonoran hotdog.

      Yes, that would be one solution. Or how about have ground bacon as part of the meat block for a fresh brat?

      Paul

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        Lovely particle definition. I wish I was consistent with it myself

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          HerbcoFood said in What's your next Meat Project?:

          processhead So the remedy here would just to be wrap the bacon around the brat and cook on the cast iron griddle like a Sonoran hotdog.

          Yes, that would be one solution. Or how about have ground bacon as part of the meat block for a fresh brat?

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          processhead I have done the bacon in the link sausage and pan sausage. For me I like to have it separate, because as you know sometimes ingredients get lost. Having the crispy texture of the bacon around a hotdog/sausage is what I would rather have. Then as you bite you can easily tell, there is the bacon and now there is the sausage.

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          • processheadP processhead

            processhead said in What's your next Meat Project?:

            calldoctoday said in What's your next Meat Project?:

            Any ideas on making a smoked brat using Blue Ribbon brat seasoning with about an ounce or less for 25 pounds of pork of Maple Bacon cure, mixed, stuffed, & smoked to 145. Is this asking for trouble or has anyone tried this successfully to get a little more pronounced & smokey flavor into the brat?

            The blue ribbon brat seasoning will already have some salt in it. The Maple bacon cure will also have a lot of salt in it, so you will need to proceed with caution as you add it or your brats could be overly salty.
            This is definitely one I would do a small scaled down test batch on till you get the flavor right.

            The other unknown factor is how much nitrite you would be adding to the smoked brats. Since you are smoking, you definitely want to add nitrite, but you need to know how much you would be getting from the maple bacon cure.

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            processhead Thanks Paul, I really appreciate your thoughts & that is the sort of things I am trying to sort out. The Nitrite issue is the big one I was worried about as well. Maybe Jonathon or Austin or JohnG5 may have some thoughts on this too. I have a little bit of time, but wanted to start the thought process soon. Was hoping to take the Blue Ribbon to the next level with the idea.

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              calldoctoday
              I would add sure cure instead of a “complete cure” or some sort of maple bacon cure. Our blue ribbon maple bacon cure is 0.60% nitrite but sure cure is 6.25%. that means the maple bacon cure has a ton of salt and sugar in it. Adding that to your brats will definitely make them too salty because you would be using 10 times more of the “cure” to get the right amount of ingoing nitrites. A long time ago, we sold some sausage seasonings that were designed to be used with a “complete cure” like the maple bacon cure and we had to formulate them with a lot less salt…A LOT less salt. I’d dont think you’ll pick up enough flavor from a complete cure to justify using that over sure cure. Your flavor comes from the brat seasoning and smoke flavor. So, I’d use sure cure (1oz per 25lb batch) and the you don’t have to worry about the small amount of extra salt that would include. Let me know if you have more questions about anything there.

              –Austin Walton
              VP of Operations at Walton’s & Meatgistics Host

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                calldoctoday
                I would add sure cure instead of a “complete cure” or some sort of maple bacon cure. Our blue ribbon maple bacon cure is 0.60% nitrite but sure cure is 6.25%. that means the maple bacon cure has a ton of salt and sugar in it. Adding that to your brats will definitely make them too salty because you would be using 10 times more of the “cure” to get the right amount of ingoing nitrites. A long time ago, we sold some sausage seasonings that were designed to be used with a “complete cure” like the maple bacon cure and we had to formulate them with a lot less salt…A LOT less salt. I’d dont think you’ll pick up enough flavor from a complete cure to justify using that over sure cure. Your flavor comes from the brat seasoning and smoke flavor. So, I’d use sure cure (1oz per 25lb batch) and the you don’t have to worry about the small amount of extra salt that would include. Let me know if you have more questions about anything there.

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                Austin Thank YOU very much, I really appreciate that & it is exactly what I needed to know. So much for the idea, but if it really will not work, then that is it. There again, if I wanted a little more bacony flavor I could probably grind some bacon up as Paul mentioned earlier into the mix or just forget about it & keep the brats raw or add the sure cure for the smoked version. Thanks a billion again & have a great evening, what very little is left of it.

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                  calldoctoday yeah the bacon cure won’t make it taste like bacon. I’d definitely add some chopped and ground bacon if you want to add a bacon flavor to it. Could do that as a fresh or smoked brat still just fine.

                  –Austin Walton
                  VP of Operations at Walton’s & Meatgistics Host

                  Shop waltons.com for Everything but the Meat!
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                    Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                    • PivodogP Pivodog

                      Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                      Pivodog I’ve never had it but that is some beautiful stuff 😍. Great job. 👍

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                      • PivodogP Pivodog

                        Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                        Pivodog

                        That looks great.

                        Paul

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                        • PivodogP Pivodog

                          Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                          Pivodog Man that looks worthy!!!

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                          • PivodogP Pivodog

                            Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                            Pivodog looks great. Nice job

                            hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                            • PivodogP Pivodog

                              Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                              Pivodog Dang that looks good and ready to eat.

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                              • PivodogP Pivodog

                                Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                                Pivodog Wow, that looks amazing!

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                                • PivodogP Pivodog

                                  Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                                  Pivodog Looks perfect!
                                  Are you happy with the flavor?

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                                  • PivodogP Pivodog

                                    Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                                    Pivodog Yes sir!!!

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                                    • PivodogP Pivodog

                                      Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                                      Pivodog That is amazing looking meat. You definitely have the process down on that

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                                      • PivodogP Pivodog

                                        Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                                        Pivodog Looks AWESOME & I’ll bet it has a great taste. I think everyone here would be willing to be a taste tester for this.

                                        Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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                                        • PivodogP Pivodog

                                          Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                                          Pivodog said in What's your next Meat Project?:

                                          Finally, tried out my 2-month-old Coppa!
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                                          I need this recipe!!! Last coppa I made was a spicy crusted cappicolla which turned out great but the spice crusted coppa looks even more amazing

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