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  • JonathonJ Jonathon

    shane102 again, I agree with Shane, for wild game, or really anytime you are trying to incorporate additional fat, sure gel is better than carrot fiber.

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    Jonathon the only reason I thought to try carrot fiber was I watched the videos on Walton’s about the different binders. Seemed like carrot fiber would be good with moisture retention. I don’t think it did add good as sure gel. Im working on a second batch right now and sure gel definitely got better protein extraction.

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      Jonathon the only reason I thought to try carrot fiber was I watched the videos on Walton’s about the different binders. Seemed like carrot fiber would be good with moisture retention. I don’t think it did add good as sure gel. Im working on a second batch right now and sure gel definitely got better protein extraction.

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      Cabelas90
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      Moistiestdrip I could be Wrong on this as ive never used the carrot fiber. But from what i have read i feel like the carrot fiber would excel in a fresh sausage that your trying to keep moist where the sure gel really shines in cured and smoked meats suck as hams summer sausage snack sticks ect.

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        Moistiestdrip I could be Wrong on this as ive never used the carrot fiber. But from what i have read i feel like the carrot fiber would excel in a fresh sausage that your trying to keep moist where the sure gel really shines in cured and smoked meats suck as hams summer sausage snack sticks ect.

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        Cabelas90 I will have to watch the video again. I probably misunderstood it. I bet your right though

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          Jonathon
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          Moistiestdrip You can, and we have used carrot fiber in cured sausage before but in general sure gel works better. Some people like Super bind even more but I prefer sure gel.

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          • JonathonJ Jonathon

            Moistiestdrip You can, and we have used carrot fiber in cured sausage before but in general sure gel works better. Some people like Super bind even more but I prefer sure gel.

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            Cabelas90
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            Jonathon Good to know I only have experience with Sure gel and it works so good ive never ventured out!

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              Jonathon Good to know I only have experience with Sure gel and it works so good ive never ventured out!

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              Cabelas90 I made the mistake of trying a batch without the sure gel…I won’t be doing that again.

              Better Living Through BBQ!

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                Cabelas90 I made the mistake of trying a batch without the sure gel…I won’t be doing that again.

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                Joe Hell Thats Interesting we make sticks and summer sausage all the time at the plant without it and no issues. At home i have used it and it was great!

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                  Joe Hell Thats Interesting we make sticks and summer sausage all the time at the plant without it and no issues. At home i have used it and it was great!

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                  Cabelas90 There may have been some other factors involved in my failure but I prefer to be safe than sorry. I believe I have more arriving tomorrow.

                  Better Living Through BBQ!

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                    Cabelas90 There may have been some other factors involved in my failure but I prefer to be safe than sorry. I believe I have more arriving tomorrow.

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                    Joe Hell Absolutely! If it works dont mess with it!

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                      Joe Hell Absolutely! If it works dont mess with it!

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                      Cabelas90 I will be sticking with sure gel from now on. I did everything the same today as I did on the other batch. Only difference was the binder. These came out wrinkle free and look perfect. I got great protein extraction. Much more than with carrot fiber.

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                        Perfect, glad it all came out great.

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                          Perfect, glad it all came out great.

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                          shane102 DBC1C4CF-7EFF-4CBA-ABE6-76AF6ED8A16B.jpeg these came out great. Used the Tons summer sausage mix and everyone loves it.

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                            Moistiestdrip Oh man that looks good. I can almost taste it. I just got done with a batch of straight Elk summer sausage with the H summer sausage seasoning
                            and added ground mustard and cayenne.

                            My next batch is gonna be Jalapeno flavored with cheddar cheese

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                              Moistiestdrip Oh man that looks good. I can almost taste it. I just got done with a batch of straight Elk summer sausage with the H summer sausage seasoning
                              and added ground mustard and cayenne.

                              My next batch is gonna be Jalapeno flavored with cheddar cheese

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                              shane102 my first batch was jalapeno with ghost pepper cheese. It taste great but is a little to hot for some people. Next year Ill go with hot pepper cheese instead

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                                For years I used powered milk for a binder as that was all I could get and never had problems, but have since switched to milk based binder because it is cheaper and still get good results.

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