Skip to content
  • Home
  • Walton's
    • Home
    • Seasonings
    • Casings
    • Packaging
    • Supplies
    • Equipment
    • Smoking/Grilling
    • Sales
    • Giveaways
  • About Us
  • Topics
    • Unread
    • Recent
    • Random
    • Popular Monthly
    • Popular All-Time
    • Unsolved
    • Solved
  • Events
  • FAQ
  • Conv Chart
    • Seasonings
    • Cures
    • Additives
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
  • Team Blue Skin
Collapse
Meatgistics - Walton's - Community
  1. Home
  2. Categories
  3. Community
  4. Meat Processing
  5. Casing wrinkles

Casing wrinkles

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Meat Processing
25 Posts 8 Posters 922 Views 8 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • A Offline
    A Offline
    akdave
    Regular Contributors
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    How constant is your temp at various levels in your smoker, before I added a 2nd convection fan in my smoker I had hot spots in the lower section of my smoker and the lower 1/4 of my sasuage would wrinkle. Now when I get the temp up to 180 degrees I also put a shallow pan of water with 3 big sponges in it on a rack about 6" below the sasuage to speed up the heat transfer with the extra humidity, next time I do a batch of summer sasuage I will take a picture with that set up. When I do snack sticks in long strands the ends closest to the bottom get some wrinkles and the top 3/4 are nice and plump. The only other think I can think of is the binder you used and if it did not hold the product together or too much water and it evaporated our of the meat.
    Dave5C9EA839-F7B5-463D-8D36-56DB9642505C.jpeg

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • S Offline
      S Offline
      shane102
      Yearling
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      how much meat and how much water did you use in the mixing? Did you use water for humidity while smoking?

      MoistiestdripM 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • S Offline
        S Offline
        shane102
        Yearling
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        Also, I dont like using carrot fiber binder with wild game. Wild game needs help with protein extraction because it has very little fat content. Sure gel binder is much better.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • JonathonJ Offline
          JonathonJ Offline
          Jonathon
          Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          shane102 again, I agree with Shane, for wild game, or really anytime you are trying to incorporate additional fat, sure gel is better than carrot fiber.

          Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

          MoistiestdripM 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • S shane102

            how much meat and how much water did you use in the mixing? Did you use water for humidity while smoking?

            MoistiestdripM Offline
            MoistiestdripM Offline
            Moistiestdrip
            Yearling
            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            shane102 I did 20 lbs meat and 5 lbs fat. I mixed in 2 quarts of water like Walton’s recommended.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • JonathonJ Jonathon

              shane102 again, I agree with Shane, for wild game, or really anytime you are trying to incorporate additional fat, sure gel is better than carrot fiber.

              MoistiestdripM Offline
              MoistiestdripM Offline
              Moistiestdrip
              Yearling
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              Jonathon the only reason I thought to try carrot fiber was I watched the videos on Walton’s about the different binders. Seemed like carrot fiber would be good with moisture retention. I don’t think it did add good as sure gel. Im working on a second batch right now and sure gel definitely got better protein extraction.

              C 1 Reply Last reply
              1
              • MoistiestdripM Moistiestdrip

                Jonathon the only reason I thought to try carrot fiber was I watched the videos on Walton’s about the different binders. Seemed like carrot fiber would be good with moisture retention. I don’t think it did add good as sure gel. Im working on a second batch right now and sure gel definitely got better protein extraction.

                C Offline
                C Offline
                Cabelas90
                Team Blue
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                Moistiestdrip I could be Wrong on this as ive never used the carrot fiber. But from what i have read i feel like the carrot fiber would excel in a fresh sausage that your trying to keep moist where the sure gel really shines in cured and smoked meats suck as hams summer sausage snack sticks ect.

                MoistiestdripM 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • C Cabelas90

                  Moistiestdrip I could be Wrong on this as ive never used the carrot fiber. But from what i have read i feel like the carrot fiber would excel in a fresh sausage that your trying to keep moist where the sure gel really shines in cured and smoked meats suck as hams summer sausage snack sticks ect.

                  MoistiestdripM Offline
                  MoistiestdripM Offline
                  Moistiestdrip
                  Yearling
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  Cabelas90 I will have to watch the video again. I probably misunderstood it. I bet your right though

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  1
                  • JonathonJ Offline
                    JonathonJ Offline
                    Jonathon
                    Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    Moistiestdrip You can, and we have used carrot fiber in cured sausage before but in general sure gel works better. Some people like Super bind even more but I prefer sure gel.

                    Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

                    C 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • JonathonJ Jonathon

                      Moistiestdrip You can, and we have used carrot fiber in cured sausage before but in general sure gel works better. Some people like Super bind even more but I prefer sure gel.

                      C Offline
                      C Offline
                      Cabelas90
                      Team Blue
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      Jonathon Good to know I only have experience with Sure gel and it works so good ive never ventured out!

                      Joe HellJ 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • C Cabelas90

                        Jonathon Good to know I only have experience with Sure gel and it works so good ive never ventured out!

                        Joe HellJ Offline
                        Joe HellJ Offline
                        Joe Hell
                        Team Blue
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        Cabelas90 I made the mistake of trying a batch without the sure gel…I won’t be doing that again.

                        Better Living Through BBQ!

                        C 1 Reply Last reply
                        1
                        • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                          Cabelas90 I made the mistake of trying a batch without the sure gel…I won’t be doing that again.

                          C Offline
                          C Offline
                          Cabelas90
                          Team Blue
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          Joe Hell Thats Interesting we make sticks and summer sausage all the time at the plant without it and no issues. At home i have used it and it was great!

                          Joe HellJ 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • C Cabelas90

                            Joe Hell Thats Interesting we make sticks and summer sausage all the time at the plant without it and no issues. At home i have used it and it was great!

                            Joe HellJ Offline
                            Joe HellJ Offline
                            Joe Hell
                            Team Blue
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            Cabelas90 There may have been some other factors involved in my failure but I prefer to be safe than sorry. I believe I have more arriving tomorrow.

                            Better Living Through BBQ!

                            C 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                              Cabelas90 There may have been some other factors involved in my failure but I prefer to be safe than sorry. I believe I have more arriving tomorrow.

                              C Offline
                              C Offline
                              Cabelas90
                              Team Blue
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              Joe Hell Absolutely! If it works dont mess with it!

                              MoistiestdripM 1 Reply Last reply
                              1
                              • C Cabelas90

                                Joe Hell Absolutely! If it works dont mess with it!

                                MoistiestdripM Offline
                                MoistiestdripM Offline
                                Moistiestdrip
                                Yearling
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                Cabelas90 I will be sticking with sure gel from now on. I did everything the same today as I did on the other batch. Only difference was the binder. These came out wrinkle free and look perfect. I got great protein extraction. Much more than with carrot fiber.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                1
                                • S Offline
                                  S Offline
                                  shane102
                                  Yearling
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  Perfect, glad it all came out great.

                                  MoistiestdripM 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • S shane102

                                    Perfect, glad it all came out great.

                                    MoistiestdripM Offline
                                    MoistiestdripM Offline
                                    Moistiestdrip
                                    Yearling
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #22

                                    shane102 DBC1C4CF-7EFF-4CBA-ABE6-76AF6ED8A16B.jpeg these came out great. Used the Tons summer sausage mix and everyone loves it.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    2
                                    • S Offline
                                      S Offline
                                      shane102
                                      Yearling
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #23

                                      Moistiestdrip Oh man that looks good. I can almost taste it. I just got done with a batch of straight Elk summer sausage with the H summer sausage seasoning
                                      and added ground mustard and cayenne.

                                      My next batch is gonna be Jalapeno flavored with cheddar cheese

                                      MoistiestdripM 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • S shane102

                                        Moistiestdrip Oh man that looks good. I can almost taste it. I just got done with a batch of straight Elk summer sausage with the H summer sausage seasoning
                                        and added ground mustard and cayenne.

                                        My next batch is gonna be Jalapeno flavored with cheddar cheese

                                        MoistiestdripM Offline
                                        MoistiestdripM Offline
                                        Moistiestdrip
                                        Yearling
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #24

                                        shane102 my first batch was jalapeno with ghost pepper cheese. It taste great but is a little to hot for some people. Next year Ill go with hot pepper cheese instead

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • A Offline
                                          A Offline
                                          akdave
                                          Regular Contributors
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #25

                                          For years I used powered milk for a binder as that was all I could get and never had problems, but have since switched to milk based binder because it is cheaper and still get good results.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0

                                          Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                                          Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                                          With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                                          Register Login
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          Sponsored By:

                                          Sponsored By Walton's Inc

                                          Sponsored By:

                                          Sponsored By Walton's
                                          Terms of Use - Privacy Policy - Copyright © 2023 Walton's Inc.
                                          Meatgistics
                                          X

                                          Register Now For Complete Access To Meatgistics!

                                          Sign In Register
                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Home
                                          • Walton's
                                            • Home
                                            • Seasonings
                                            • Casings
                                            • Packaging
                                            • Supplies
                                            • Equipment
                                            • Smoking/Grilling
                                            • Sales
                                            • Giveaways
                                          • About Us
                                          • Topics
                                            • Unread
                                            • Recent
                                            • Random
                                            • Popular Monthly
                                            • Popular All-Time
                                            • Unsolved
                                            • Solved
                                          • Events
                                          • FAQ
                                          • Conv Chart
                                            • Seasonings
                                            • Cures
                                            • Additives