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  • JonathonJ Jonathon

    Deepwoodsbutcher Thats an interesting idea. We tried something similar a while ago. I wanted to see what the wear and tear would be on the 2-sided knife and plates so I had someone put a 10 lb batch through it, then put that meat back through it, and then back through it again until we had ground 100 lb out of a 10 lb batch. If memory serves the person said that after the 3rd grind it was basically mush and didn’t want to grind.

    Now, we didn’t pay any attention to the temp of meat because that’s not what we were looking at. Might be worth trying again and seeing if we can get close to an emulsification.

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    Jonathon that is a nice piece od hardware. I might just need to add a #12 to my inventory. I never really got my meat block to the emulsification level going through a grinder. I get it to what I call ‘country style’ and accept that until I can justify to CINC House the need.

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    • JonathonJ Jonathon

      Deepwoodsbutcher Thats an interesting idea. We tried something similar a while ago. I wanted to see what the wear and tear would be on the 2-sided knife and plates so I had someone put a 10 lb batch through it, then put that meat back through it, and then back through it again until we had ground 100 lb out of a 10 lb batch. If memory serves the person said that after the 3rd grind it was basically mush and didn’t want to grind.

      Now, we didn’t pay any attention to the temp of meat because that’s not what we were looking at. Might be worth trying again and seeing if we can get close to an emulsification.

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      Jonathon said in Any quick responses?:

      Deepwoodsbutcher Thats an interesting idea. We tried something similar a while ago. I wanted to see what the wear and tear would be on the 2-sided knife and plates so I had someone put a 10 lb batch through it, then put that meat back through it, and then back through it again until we had ground 100 lb out of a 10 lb batch. If memory serves the person said that after the 3rd grind it was basically mush and didn’t want to grind.

      Now, we didn’t pay any attention to the temp of meat because that’s not what we were looking at. Might be worth trying again and seeing if we can get close to an emulsification.

      If Walton’s ever decided to develop a hobbyist meat emulsifier you may want to look at a scaled down version of this or something using the technology to refit the auger/knife/plate assembly on a conventional grinder:

      https://www.mincemaster.com/

      The mincemaster has been around a long long time.

      Paul

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      • JonathonJ Jonathon

        Deepwoodsbutcher Thats an interesting idea. We tried something similar a while ago. I wanted to see what the wear and tear would be on the 2-sided knife and plates so I had someone put a 10 lb batch through it, then put that meat back through it, and then back through it again until we had ground 100 lb out of a 10 lb batch. If memory serves the person said that after the 3rd grind it was basically mush and didn’t want to grind.

        Now, we didn’t pay any attention to the temp of meat because that’s not what we were looking at. Might be worth trying again and seeing if we can get close to an emulsification.

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        Jonathon sounds interesting

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          Jonathon said in Any quick responses?:

          Deepwoodsbutcher Thats an interesting idea. We tried something similar a while ago. I wanted to see what the wear and tear would be on the 2-sided knife and plates so I had someone put a 10 lb batch through it, then put that meat back through it, and then back through it again until we had ground 100 lb out of a 10 lb batch. If memory serves the person said that after the 3rd grind it was basically mush and didn’t want to grind.

          Now, we didn’t pay any attention to the temp of meat because that’s not what we were looking at. Might be worth trying again and seeing if we can get close to an emulsification.

          If Walton’s ever decided to develop a hobbyist meat emulsifier you may want to look at a scaled down version of this or something using the technology to refit the auger/knife/plate assembly on a conventional grinder:

          https://www.mincemaster.com/

          The mincemaster has been around a long long time.

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          processhead I usually grind 4x then emulsify in a food processor. I like having it broken down as much as possible before finishing in the processor.

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          • DeepwoodsbutcherD Deepwoodsbutcher

            processhead I usually grind 4x then emulsify in a food processor. I like having it broken down as much as possible before finishing in the processor.

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            Deepwoodsbutcher said in Any quick responses?:

            processhead I usually grind 4x then emulsify in a food processor. I like having it broken down as much as possible before finishing in the processor.

            What kind of food processor do you use? Most of the consumer grade ones are still too small for all but the smallest batches.

            Paul

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            • processheadP processhead

              Deepwoodsbutcher said in Any quick responses?:

              processhead I usually grind 4x then emulsify in a food processor. I like having it broken down as much as possible before finishing in the processor.

              What kind of food processor do you use? Most of the consumer grade ones are still too small for all but the smallest batches.

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              processhead it’s a Kitchenaid and yes, it takes forever. I have to break it up into small portions. I only do about 5#s at a time total.

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              • JonathonJ Jonathon

                PapaSop and Deepwoodsbutcher It is live on youtube now, there will be a meatgistics university post on it soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDLpL-ji_tM

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                Jonathon said in Any quick responses?:

                PapaSop and Deepwoodsbutcher It is live on youtube now, there will be a meatgistics university post on it soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDLpL-ji_tM

                Guess I’ll be placing another order. That’s really cool. 👍

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                • JonathonJ Jonathon

                  PapaSop and Deepwoodsbutcher Yes, we have it where we are only carrying the one size and it works for the 12, 22 and 32. Technically it would fit the 8 but it doesn’t have the power to run it. We have a product video coming out on that … well maybe today actually? I absolutely love the one-shot, makes snack sticks soooo much easier to make.

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                  Jonathon said in Any quick responses?:

                  PapaSop and Deepwoodsbutcher Yes, we have it where we are only carrying the one size and it works for the 12, 22 and 32. Technically it would fit the 8 but it doesn’t have the power to run it. We have a product video coming out on that … well maybe today actually? I absolutely love the one-shot, makes snack sticks soooo much easier to make.

                  So, if it fits a #22, will it work on my #22 Butcher Series?
                  Or should I just sell that one and get the Walton’s #22?
                  Oh boy, here we go… 😉 Hmm😀

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                    PapaSop People were asking on the Youtube video as well. My thought is that it wont work. The cut out n ours and the securing notch is at the top, some others are at the bottom. A Weston butcher “might” work but I cant guarantee it.

                    Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                      Here is the picture of what i am talking about above. 20220624_152214.jpg

                      Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                      • JonathonJ Jonathon

                        Here is the picture of what i am talking about above. 20220624_152214.jpg

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                        Jonathon
                        Thanks. Been looking at the Walton’s #22 for some time. Just like the shape and tray for some reason.

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                          The #12 arrived today. This should work well for doing smaller batches. A little more manageable than the beast. And the preamble shirt.

                          PXL_20220625_174415191.jpg

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                          • PapaSopP PapaSop

                            The #12 arrived today. This should work well for doing smaller batches. A little more manageable than the beast. And the preamble shirt.

                            PXL_20220625_174415191.jpg

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                            PapaSop Nice snag on both fronts. Have fun.

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                            • PapaSopP PapaSop

                              The #12 arrived today. This should work well for doing smaller batches. A little more manageable than the beast. And the preamble shirt.

                              PXL_20220625_174415191.jpg

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                              PapaSop I think you will like the 12 for your smaller batches; good choice.

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                              • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                The #12 arrived today. This should work well for doing smaller batches. A little more manageable than the beast. And the preamble shirt.

                                PXL_20220625_174415191.jpg

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                                PapaSop
                                Great looking addition! You may be surprised how much of a workhorse it turns out to be for you.

                                Paul

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                                • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                  The #12 arrived today. This should work well for doing smaller batches. A little more manageable than the beast. And the preamble shirt.

                                  PXL_20220625_174415191.jpg

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                                  PapaSop I think you will be very happy with the 12. I guess I dont know what you guys consider a small batch, I use a #12 and when I make sausage, I do 50 pounds at a time and never run into trouble.

                                  hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                  • kyleK kyle

                                    PapaSop I think you will be very happy with the 12. I guess I dont know what you guys consider a small batch, I use a #12 and when I make sausage, I do 50 pounds at a time and never run into trouble.

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                                    kyle said in Any quick responses?:

                                    PapaSop I think you will be very happy with the 12. I guess I dont know what you guys consider a small batch, I use a #12 and when I make sausage, I do 50 pounds at a time and never run into trouble.

                                    As I have said before, a good #12 grinder is usually more than enough machine for most processing hobbyists.

                                    We grind up to 75 lbs at a time when making snack sticks or bratwurst and our #12 grinder is never the bottle-neck in productivity.

                                    Paul

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                                      kyle processhead
                                      Funny you guys say that. Was just thinking, if this grinder does everything you say, do I really need the #22.
                                      A small batch for me is 15-25lbs. I’ve been doing more of these lately than larger batches.

                                      I’ll obviously still have the 22 around. That said, I may sell the Weston Butcher Series and get the Walton’s one. This is with the intent of getting the 50# mixer at some point. Besides, a little birdie told me the Walton’s #22 may be on sale soon. 😉🤔

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                                      • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                        kyle processhead
                                        Funny you guys say that. Was just thinking, if this grinder does everything you say, do I really need the #22.
                                        A small batch for me is 15-25lbs. I’ve been doing more of these lately than larger batches.

                                        I’ll obviously still have the 22 around. That said, I may sell the Weston Butcher Series and get the Walton’s one. This is with the intent of getting the 50# mixer at some point. Besides, a little birdie told me the Walton’s #22 may be on sale soon. 😉🤔

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                                        PapaSop Chirp Chirp!!!

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                                        • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                          The #12 arrived today. This should work well for doing smaller batches. A little more manageable than the beast. And the preamble shirt.

                                          PXL_20220625_174415191.jpg

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                                          PapaSop said in Any quick responses?:

                                          The #12 arrived today. This should work well for doing smaller batches. A little more manageable than the beast. And the preamble shirt.

                                          PXL_20220625_174415191.jpg

                                          I would just keep it in the bathroom. That grinder can double as a mirror for when you shave in the morning.

                                          Paul

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