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  • processheadP processhead

    GWG8541
    I was wondering the same thing.
    Pretty rare to hear references to .38 caliber semi auto pistols although technically 9mm para. is a nominal. 38 cal. diameter projectile.

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    processhead true and is why our .380 caliber is known as 9mm kurz to our European friends. Im still stumped on what Glock Jonathon is talking about and I have been a Glock armorer for about 30 years.

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      processhead true and is why our .380 caliber is known as 9mm kurz to our European friends. Im still stumped on what Glock Jonathon is talking about and I have been a Glock armorer for about 30 years.

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      GWG8541
      At first it seemed Jonathon was talking about the compact .45 ACP, or maybe a case of confusion.
      Can’t imagine Mrs. Trembley enjoying as session with a compact .45.

      Paul

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        I believe he was talking about a Glock42, .380 ACP sub

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        • processheadP processhead

          GWG8541
          I was wondering the same thing.
          Pretty rare to hear references to .38 caliber semi auto pistols although technically 9mm para. is a nominal. 38 cal. diameter projectile.

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          processhead .38 ACP 1911 story time. As a young Sergeant assigned to the range, I was the only one working on the range when a local historic park employee brought in a confiscated Colt 1911 .38 ACP that the Dayton Police Department took off of John Dillinger when he was arrested in 1933. They were asking me to disable the gun by welding the barrel or some other permanent disabling measure. After begging them not to ever do that, I figured out a way to disable it without destroying it. I don’t want to get into details since the gun is still on display. I told them I would need a few minutes and of course began looking for any .38 ACP we might have had in our ammo inventory. Well maybe I did and maybe I didn’t get to fire one round out of the gun before disabling it. So about 71 years after his arrest, I can say that I disabled John Dillinger’s 1911 .38 and kept it’s historic value. The gun had been engraved and awarded by the Courts to the then Chief of Police Rudy Wurstner. Chief Wurstner’s family donated the gun to Dayton History and even included a copy of the Jewelry shop receipt when it was engraved for Chief Wurstner. The last time I visited, the gun was still on display at Carillon Historical Park. Who says history can’t be fun. https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/pistol-taken-from-famous-gangster-part-exhibit-opening-this-fall/DRl5yKd6ERIu6eOF0iFOmL/

          “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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            processhead .38 ACP 1911 story time. As a young Sergeant assigned to the range, I was the only one working on the range when a local historic park employee brought in a confiscated Colt 1911 .38 ACP that the Dayton Police Department took off of John Dillinger when he was arrested in 1933. They were asking me to disable the gun by welding the barrel or some other permanent disabling measure. After begging them not to ever do that, I figured out a way to disable it without destroying it. I don’t want to get into details since the gun is still on display. I told them I would need a few minutes and of course began looking for any .38 ACP we might have had in our ammo inventory. Well maybe I did and maybe I didn’t get to fire one round out of the gun before disabling it. So about 71 years after his arrest, I can say that I disabled John Dillinger’s 1911 .38 and kept it’s historic value. The gun had been engraved and awarded by the Courts to the then Chief of Police Rudy Wurstner. Chief Wurstner’s family donated the gun to Dayton History and even included a copy of the Jewelry shop receipt when it was engraved for Chief Wurstner. The last time I visited, the gun was still on display at Carillon Historical Park. Who says history can’t be fun. https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/pistol-taken-from-famous-gangster-part-exhibit-opening-this-fall/DRl5yKd6ERIu6eOF0iFOmL/

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            GWG8541
            What an interesting opportunity to handle a piece of history. Sure doesn’t happen every day.

            Paul

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            • GWG8541G GWG8541

              processhead .38 ACP 1911 story time. As a young Sergeant assigned to the range, I was the only one working on the range when a local historic park employee brought in a confiscated Colt 1911 .38 ACP that the Dayton Police Department took off of John Dillinger when he was arrested in 1933. They were asking me to disable the gun by welding the barrel or some other permanent disabling measure. After begging them not to ever do that, I figured out a way to disable it without destroying it. I don’t want to get into details since the gun is still on display. I told them I would need a few minutes and of course began looking for any .38 ACP we might have had in our ammo inventory. Well maybe I did and maybe I didn’t get to fire one round out of the gun before disabling it. So about 71 years after his arrest, I can say that I disabled John Dillinger’s 1911 .38 and kept it’s historic value. The gun had been engraved and awarded by the Courts to the then Chief of Police Rudy Wurstner. Chief Wurstner’s family donated the gun to Dayton History and even included a copy of the Jewelry shop receipt when it was engraved for Chief Wurstner. The last time I visited, the gun was still on display at Carillon Historical Park. Who says history can’t be fun. https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/pistol-taken-from-famous-gangster-part-exhibit-opening-this-fall/DRl5yKd6ERIu6eOF0iFOmL/

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              GWG8541 THAT is AMAZING!

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              • GWG8541G GWG8541

                processhead .38 ACP 1911 story time. As a young Sergeant assigned to the range, I was the only one working on the range when a local historic park employee brought in a confiscated Colt 1911 .38 ACP that the Dayton Police Department took off of John Dillinger when he was arrested in 1933. They were asking me to disable the gun by welding the barrel or some other permanent disabling measure. After begging them not to ever do that, I figured out a way to disable it without destroying it. I don’t want to get into details since the gun is still on display. I told them I would need a few minutes and of course began looking for any .38 ACP we might have had in our ammo inventory. Well maybe I did and maybe I didn’t get to fire one round out of the gun before disabling it. So about 71 years after his arrest, I can say that I disabled John Dillinger’s 1911 .38 and kept it’s historic value. The gun had been engraved and awarded by the Courts to the then Chief of Police Rudy Wurstner. Chief Wurstner’s family donated the gun to Dayton History and even included a copy of the Jewelry shop receipt when it was engraved for Chief Wurstner. The last time I visited, the gun was still on display at Carillon Historical Park. Who says history can’t be fun. https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/pistol-taken-from-famous-gangster-part-exhibit-opening-this-fall/DRl5yKd6ERIu6eOF0iFOmL/

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                GWG8541 that was a fun read, thanks for sharing.

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                  processhead .38 ACP 1911 story time. As a young Sergeant assigned to the range, I was the only one working on the range when a local historic park employee brought in a confiscated Colt 1911 .38 ACP that the Dayton Police Department took off of John Dillinger when he was arrested in 1933. They were asking me to disable the gun by welding the barrel or some other permanent disabling measure. After begging them not to ever do that, I figured out a way to disable it without destroying it. I don’t want to get into details since the gun is still on display. I told them I would need a few minutes and of course began looking for any .38 ACP we might have had in our ammo inventory. Well maybe I did and maybe I didn’t get to fire one round out of the gun before disabling it. So about 71 years after his arrest, I can say that I disabled John Dillinger’s 1911 .38 and kept it’s historic value. The gun had been engraved and awarded by the Courts to the then Chief of Police Rudy Wurstner. Chief Wurstner’s family donated the gun to Dayton History and even included a copy of the Jewelry shop receipt when it was engraved for Chief Wurstner. The last time I visited, the gun was still on display at Carillon Historical Park. Who says history can’t be fun. https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/pistol-taken-from-famous-gangster-part-exhibit-opening-this-fall/DRl5yKd6ERIu6eOF0iFOmL/

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                  GWG8541 Thanks for sharing that great story!

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                    GWG8541 Now THAT is a story! Good job on preserving a piece of American history there!

                    processhead Yes, confusion, it is a .380 like this, she detests shooting my 9mm thinking it has too much kick so the .380 is a nice option for her.
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                    bocephus I’ve tried to get her to shoot my .22 magnum henry lever action and she has had no interest, BUT I am hoping that changes once she has her own gun. This is such a huge change in opinion for her and makes me really happy! Sometimes I dont know how I come off when I talk about my wife cause I do things like intentionally use an annoying voice when I am imitating her (which sounds nothing like her) or make her out to be a robot but I love her fiercely and am always super proud of her but maybe not ever as much as when she said she wanted to be able to protect herself if she ever got into a bad situation.

                    I think she (and lots of other people) are seeing that they can’t rely on the authorities, or anyone else to either be there or do anything to save them when you are in danger, you have to be able to save yourself. To some people that means a firearm and to some people it means jujitsu. In general, running away is almost always the best option in a fight but it isn’t always an option.

                    Sorry, you caught me monologuing!

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                    • GWG8541G GWG8541

                      processhead .38 ACP 1911 story time. As a young Sergeant assigned to the range, I was the only one working on the range when a local historic park employee brought in a confiscated Colt 1911 .38 ACP that the Dayton Police Department took off of John Dillinger when he was arrested in 1933. They were asking me to disable the gun by welding the barrel or some other permanent disabling measure. After begging them not to ever do that, I figured out a way to disable it without destroying it. I don’t want to get into details since the gun is still on display. I told them I would need a few minutes and of course began looking for any .38 ACP we might have had in our ammo inventory. Well maybe I did and maybe I didn’t get to fire one round out of the gun before disabling it. So about 71 years after his arrest, I can say that I disabled John Dillinger’s 1911 .38 and kept it’s historic value. The gun had been engraved and awarded by the Courts to the then Chief of Police Rudy Wurstner. Chief Wurstner’s family donated the gun to Dayton History and even included a copy of the Jewelry shop receipt when it was engraved for Chief Wurstner. The last time I visited, the gun was still on display at Carillon Historical Park. Who says history can’t be fun. https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/pistol-taken-from-famous-gangster-part-exhibit-opening-this-fall/DRl5yKd6ERIu6eOF0iFOmL/

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                      GWG8541 that is pretty cool!

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                      • JonathonJ Jonathon

                        GWG8541 Now THAT is a story! Good job on preserving a piece of American history there!

                        processhead Yes, confusion, it is a .380 like this, she detests shooting my 9mm thinking it has too much kick so the .380 is a nice option for her.
                        68d8d0b6-b791-4b1f-b52c-c96644e62cb7-image.png

                        bocephus I’ve tried to get her to shoot my .22 magnum henry lever action and she has had no interest, BUT I am hoping that changes once she has her own gun. This is such a huge change in opinion for her and makes me really happy! Sometimes I dont know how I come off when I talk about my wife cause I do things like intentionally use an annoying voice when I am imitating her (which sounds nothing like her) or make her out to be a robot but I love her fiercely and am always super proud of her but maybe not ever as much as when she said she wanted to be able to protect herself if she ever got into a bad situation.

                        I think she (and lots of other people) are seeing that they can’t rely on the authorities, or anyone else to either be there or do anything to save them when you are in danger, you have to be able to save yourself. To some people that means a firearm and to some people it means jujitsu. In general, running away is almost always the best option in a fight but it isn’t always an option.

                        Sorry, you caught me monologuing!

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                        Jonathon Jon: Just some advice from someone that has been there and done that. Please find a shooting range with good instructors and different firearms that they will either let the students shoot or rent for your wife. This will let your wife learn to shoot from people that are able to see and quickly identify problems and correct them before they become habits. Your wife will also get to shoot a number of different firearms in different configurations. That little Glock 43 might turn into something completely different by the end of the class.

                        My Loving and long suffering wife and my 2 daughters are shooters. My Eldest was the Women’s National Collegiate air pistol champion and a 2 time All American in women’s air pistol and a 2 time All American in Women’s Sport Pistol. Her name is the first to appear on the Melaragno Trophy https://competitions.nra.org/media/8193/tro-170-melaragno.pdf . I did not teach any of the 3 to shoot. I found instructors for them.

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                        • Idaho SmokeyI Idaho Smokey

                          Jonathon Jon: Just some advice from someone that has been there and done that. Please find a shooting range with good instructors and different firearms that they will either let the students shoot or rent for your wife. This will let your wife learn to shoot from people that are able to see and quickly identify problems and correct them before they become habits. Your wife will also get to shoot a number of different firearms in different configurations. That little Glock 43 might turn into something completely different by the end of the class.

                          My Loving and long suffering wife and my 2 daughters are shooters. My Eldest was the Women’s National Collegiate air pistol champion and a 2 time All American in women’s air pistol and a 2 time All American in Women’s Sport Pistol. Her name is the first to appear on the Melaragno Trophy https://competitions.nra.org/media/8193/tro-170-melaragno.pdf . I did not teach any of the 3 to shoot. I found instructors for them.

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                          Idaho Smokey Wow! congratulations to to your daughter, you must be very proud of all of them

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                          • JonathonJ Jonathon

                            GWG8541 Now THAT is a story! Good job on preserving a piece of American history there!

                            processhead Yes, confusion, it is a .380 like this, she detests shooting my 9mm thinking it has too much kick so the .380 is a nice option for her.
                            68d8d0b6-b791-4b1f-b52c-c96644e62cb7-image.png

                            bocephus I’ve tried to get her to shoot my .22 magnum henry lever action and she has had no interest, BUT I am hoping that changes once she has her own gun. This is such a huge change in opinion for her and makes me really happy! Sometimes I dont know how I come off when I talk about my wife cause I do things like intentionally use an annoying voice when I am imitating her (which sounds nothing like her) or make her out to be a robot but I love her fiercely and am always super proud of her but maybe not ever as much as when she said she wanted to be able to protect herself if she ever got into a bad situation.

                            I think she (and lots of other people) are seeing that they can’t rely on the authorities, or anyone else to either be there or do anything to save them when you are in danger, you have to be able to save yourself. To some people that means a firearm and to some people it means jujitsu. In general, running away is almost always the best option in a fight but it isn’t always an option.

                            Sorry, you caught me monologuing!

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                            Jonathon That’s ok, I think most long married couples make fun of each other and know it is just in fun. If she likes shooting the .380 (my wife has one for the same reason, easier to hold and shoot than a 9mm), you might want to look for a similar .22 pistol that would be easy to shoot, cheaper and get her used to handling a similar gun. There is nothing like familiarity to make a person comfortable with a gun.

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                              My Wife picked out her Mother’s day and Birthday present. She collects turquoise jewelry so she picked this out to go with it. Joanne 2.jpg This is a Kimber Micro 9 Bel Air 9mm. That is my paw holding it.

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                                My Wife picked out her Mother’s day and Birthday present. She collects turquoise jewelry so she picked this out to go with it. Joanne 2.jpg This is a Kimber Micro 9 Bel Air 9mm. That is my paw holding it.

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                                Idaho Smokey That’s functional and pretty. She has a nice eye.

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                                  Jonathon Jon: Just some advice from someone that has been there and done that. Please find a shooting range with good instructors and different firearms that they will either let the students shoot or rent for your wife. This will let your wife learn to shoot from people that are able to see and quickly identify problems and correct them before they become habits. Your wife will also get to shoot a number of different firearms in different configurations. That little Glock 43 might turn into something completely different by the end of the class.

                                  My Loving and long suffering wife and my 2 daughters are shooters. My Eldest was the Women’s National Collegiate air pistol champion and a 2 time All American in women’s air pistol and a 2 time All American in Women’s Sport Pistol. Her name is the first to appear on the Melaragno Trophy https://competitions.nra.org/media/8193/tro-170-melaragno.pdf . I did not teach any of the 3 to shoot. I found instructors for them.

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                                  Idaho Smokey One proud idaho-smokey. I see you smilin’!!!

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                                  • ND MikeN ND Mike

                                    GWG8541 that is pretty cool!

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                                    ND Mike our job has some good perks now and then.

                                    “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                                      My wife likes to shoot and is a competent shot with a handgun and rifle. One thing she does not have is the hand strength to cycle most semiauto pistols. In her case, a 4" S&W K frame .38 special revolver is a good solution.

                                      Paul

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                                        ND Mike our job has some good perks now and then.

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                                        GWG8541 yep it does.

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                                        • processheadP processhead

                                          My wife likes to shoot and is a competent shot with a handgun and rifle. One thing she does not have is the hand strength to cycle most semiauto pistols. In her case, a 4" S&W K frame .38 special revolver is a good solution.

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                                          processhead revolvers are reliable and easy for most people to use. Nothing wrong with a good revolver. Some of the heavier trigger double actions are also hard for some folks with hand strength issue to either fire or fire accurately. I tell them to use the single action if it is both. Takes a little longer, but will get the job done.

                                          “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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