Equipment hack
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twilliams I have a LEM 2 speed 11# stuffer and when making meat sticks I use a 17 to 19 mm casing, mine is not hard to crank at all. 15 mm might give me a tad of restriction but, I’ve never seen them locally available. I’d like to try them sometime though.
I’m sure you are checking that the handle is in “grandma” gear.
Unfortunately all of my processing equipment was purchased long before I ran across this site.
Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in! -
twilliams I have a LEM 2 speed 11# stuffer and when making meat sticks I use a 17 to 19 mm casing, mine is not hard to crank at all. 15 mm might give me a tad of restriction but, I’ve never seen them locally available. I’d like to try them sometime though.
I’m sure you are checking that the handle is in “grandma” gear.
Unfortunately all of my processing equipment was purchased long before I ran across this site.
@dennyo yes it’s in slow gear, tried the other gear and couldn’t budge it at all. And I might add before someone brings it up as how much water I use. I have not changed my process at all besides going from a 12.5 lb batch down to 11 lb using the 12.5 lb seasoning amount. Used 900ml of water which is more than recommended, I like going a bit heavy to make stuffing easier. Usually I use 1000ml for a 12.5 lb batch.
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@dennyo yes it’s in slow gear, tried the other gear and couldn’t budge it at all. And I might add before someone brings it up as how much water I use. I have not changed my process at all besides going from a 12.5 lb batch down to 11 lb using the 12.5 lb seasoning amount. Used 900ml of water which is more than recommended, I like going a bit heavy to make stuffing easier. Usually I use 1000ml for a 12.5 lb batch.
twilliams I wonder if the bushings within the stuffer are warn or something about the meshing of the gears then?
I wasn’t trying to imply that you (or the better half) was using it incorrectly and with your statement on water, I wondered but said to myself “this is not his 50th rodeo”.
About got to be a mechanical thing doesn’t?
Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in! -
twilliams I wonder if the bushings within the stuffer are warn or something about the meshing of the gears then?
I wasn’t trying to imply that you (or the better half) was using it incorrectly and with your statement on water, I wondered but said to myself “this is not his 50th rodeo”.
About got to be a mechanical thing doesn’t?
@dennyo no offense taken, it was not my intention to write it that way, I just thought I’d throw it in there. It is a brand new stuffer, first time using it. I’m sure it is working as designed, from what I gathered from reviews I just got a different idea in my head
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twilliams I am assuming it cranks down easily when empty.
Maybe open it and make sure the gears got lubed?
My 19mm horn has much more of a taper at the stuffer connection -
@dennyo no offense taken, it was not my intention to write it that way, I just thought I’d throw it in there. It is a brand new stuffer, first time using it. I’m sure it is working as designed, from what I gathered from reviews I just got a different idea in my head
twilliams What size is the horn inot what size casing. That said, I’m sure it is still as you have done. I’m just trying to get a sense of yours maybe against mine.
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GWG8541 I stepped down to the 11 lb just for the wife as she is the one that cranks while I manage the stuff. With comments being that the crank was easier since the diameter was smaller I chose to get it for that purpose. That is not the case, she had a harder time cranking more than my 20lb. I ended up doing it while I put pressure on casing to fill and she just held it up to get the length I wanted as I stuffed. As far as 11lb goes that is not accurate either. I made two 11lb batches. I only got approximately 8 lbs in and had to refill. The cylinder appears to be thin walled and not as robust. The gears and shaft appear to be very nicely built, not sure what the clicking of every notch in the gear was all about. I thought is was a locking mechanism so it would not back travel but that was not the case. The horn for the 19mm is better than my other one. Maybe I will do a pros and cons list tomorrow
twilliams said in Equipment hack:
GWG8541 I stepped down to the 11 lb just for the wife as she is the one that cranks while I manage the stuff. With comments being that the crank was easier since the diameter was smaller I chose to get it for that purpose. That is not the case, she had a harder time cranking more than my 20lb. I ended up doing it while I put pressure on casing to fill and she just held it up to get the length I wanted as I stuffed. As far as 11lb goes that is not accurate either. I made two 11lb batches. I only got approximately 8 lbs in and had to refill. The cylinder appears to be thin walled and not as robust. The gears and shaft appear to be very nicely built, not sure what the clicking of every notch in the gear was all about. I thought is was a locking mechanism so it would not back travel but that was not the case. The horn for the 19mm is better than my other one. Maybe I will do a pros and cons list tomorrow
Good feedback. Reading your review, it almost read like the stuffer I bought on Amazon (Hakka 7 lbs). I wonder if Walton farmed it out to the same company??
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twilliams What size is the horn inot what size casing. That said, I’m sure it is still as you have done. I’m just trying to get a sense of yours maybe against mine.
@dennyo I will have to take the horn to work and measure with my calipers. My other one is 12.7mm outside diameter and I have to basically force my 19mm casing on the horn. The Walton’s one the casing goes right on with a little play so I’m assuming maybe a 10mm. Which explains with it being more difficult to crank but with the smaller diameter canister and piston of less down pressure I would think maybe they would equal out to the same crank pressure?
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3/8" +/- is prety small to be pushing the 11 lb stuffer into.
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@dennyo I will have to take the horn to work and measure with my calipers. My other one is 12.7mm outside diameter and I have to basically force my 19mm casing on the horn. The Walton’s one the casing goes right on with a little play so I’m assuming maybe a 10mm. Which explains with it being more difficult to crank but with the smaller diameter canister and piston of less down pressure I would think maybe they would equal out to the same crank pressure?
twilliams Are you saying you used a 12.7mm o.d. and stuffed with a larger stuffer canister diameter?
Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in! -
The other night was my first time stuffing 22mm sheep casings with the 11# Walton’s stuffer and between cranking and feeding the casings by myself I found it considerably easier to sit down and pull down on the handle from 12 o’clock to the 6 o’clock position and then move the handle back up to 12 o’clock and start over. It allowed me to pull straight down which seemed to give me more power and control to avoid blowouts, that’s my very limited experience and two cents worth.
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twilliams Are you saying you used a 12.7mm o.d. and stuffed with a larger stuffer canister diameter?
@dennyo yes my old cabelas 20 lb canister is quite a bit bigger with the 12.7mm horn that came with it. I will do some measurement comparison tonight when i get home.
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twilliams Are you saying you used a 12.7mm o.d. and stuffed with a larger stuffer canister diameter?
@dennyo here is the measurement differences of the two horns and stuffer canisters
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twilliams Are you saying you used a 12.7mm o.d. and stuffed with a larger stuffer canister diameter?
@dennyo
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@dennyo yes my old cabelas 20 lb canister is quite a bit bigger with the 12.7mm horn that came with it. I will do some measurement comparison tonight when i get home.
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twilliams Your Waltons stiffer looks a lot like my LEM 11# 2 speed. The horn on the Cabellar seems to be working a lot of reduction! I suppose there is no chance that you could switch the horns?? (I know, you have already tried that too, duh.
All of you talk about a clicking noise, Why would that be a normal sound??
Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in! -
Tried finding the meat hacks post but couldn’t find it. I think it was Dr_Pain that came up with the therapy balls to squeeze the rest of the meat out of the throat of the stuffer which is a wonderful way to do it. Here is my hack that I do.
I used to buy all cabelas equipment before I found meatgistics and Walton’s. The pic you see which is Saturday the 8th and is my very first time using the 11lb sausage stuffer from Walton’s. My hack is to take my long tube jerky shooter and add the left over meat from the stuffer throat and into the tube, then take the stuffing horn from the Walton’s stuffer and finish out the casing. There is a little left in the horn and I will find some type of plunger to get that out at a later date.twilliams there is a different company out there that sells these. They come in a few different sizes. A metal plunger to clear out the tube and then a brush for cleaning. Thought about trying them instead of using a wooden spoon handle (mine are actually plastic) I even thought about buying a couple different size dowel rods to try.
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twilliams there is a different company out there that sells these. They come in a few different sizes. A metal plunger to clear out the tube and then a brush for cleaning. Thought about trying them instead of using a wooden spoon handle (mine are actually plastic) I even thought about buying a couple different size dowel rods to try.
Randie N I like the dowel rod idea. Right now, I’m doubling plastic wrap over the end of the next smaller stuffing tube and using that as a plunger. It works but add another tube to clean.
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twilliams Your Waltons stiffer looks a lot like my LEM 11# 2 speed. The horn on the Cabellar seems to be working a lot of reduction! I suppose there is no chance that you could switch the horns?? (I know, you have already tried that too, duh.
All of you talk about a clicking noise, Why would that be a normal sound??
@dennyo I’m doing another 25 lbs today so I will be doing a test. The first flavor I will use the Walton’s horn the second flavor will be using the cabelas horn with the Walton’s stuffer. I will post results
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twilliams Your Waltons stiffer looks a lot like my LEM 11# 2 speed. The horn on the Cabellar seems to be working a lot of reduction! I suppose there is no chance that you could switch the horns?? (I know, you have already tried that too, duh.
All of you talk about a clicking noise, Why would that be a normal sound??
@dennyo well after the test there is absolutely no difference in crank pressure from the Walton’s horn to the cabelas horn. I was surprised. On a positive note the crank pressure was so much less today, really baffles me because I used 100ml less of water on this batch compared to last weekends batch.
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