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  • Randie NR Randie N

    Here is some of it hot smoked. Can’t find pics of the cold smoked.

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    cdavis
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    Randie N your bacon undefined looks great

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    • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

      For the dry EQ method, would honey be 1:1 replacement for sugar or would the liquid honey necessitate an adjustment somewhere

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      Ridley Acres are you injecting the brine into the bellies or dry/wet brining in bags? Liquid honey isn’t actually pure sugar. If you’re trying for a honey bacon like orange honey, honey cinnamon, etc, it is best to do a base brine, water down the honey before smoking and inject it into the belly, then while it cools in the fridge, smear the honey on top of the belly to cold and tack up along with whatever you are also adding to the honey. It is stay on the belly more this way and won’t potentially ruin an otherwise tried and true brine formula.

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      • Randie NR Randie N

        lkrfletcher here is something else you can do with some of the belly. Make Pork belly burnt ends or cure and make bacon burnt ends
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        Randie N those burnt ends look delicious 😋

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        • F fallis10

          http://www.diggingdogfarm.com/page2.html
          Use this site for the cure ratio. You will need a reliable scale for this. It all depends on weight. Make sure you zero the scale to account for the weight of bowls or containers you are using so it doesn’t throw off the meat:ingredients ratios.
          Buy cure salt #1, and for a single belly, the smallest package you can buy will likely be enough. I buy 10 pound buckets, and make bacon 2-3 times per month, and a bucket lasts me over a year.
          Mix up the brine formula, put that plus the belly into food safe bags (I cut my belly in half “hamburger style” so I can still get full slices when I’m done, and I use Ziploc 2 gallon bags- 1 half of the belly in each bags).
          This will cure for 7 days in the fridge. Suggest using a cookie sheet under the bags in case they leak. You can always wrap the bags up tightly in plastic wrap to help with this as well. Every day, just pick a time that works for you so it is consistent, you want to flip the bellies over. This allows even brining and also makes you feel involved and important while the brine does its thing!
          After 7 days, remove the bellies, rinse them very well under cold water to remove excess salt (some people soak them for a few hours, but I never have and my bacon is fantastic).
          Here is the real divider amongst the bacon-making community: smoking. Some hot smoke and some cold smoke. Either way it is great. You just do you here and see which method you like more. Being winter, it is a great time to try cold smoking. If you have an offset smoker, lighting a fire in the smoke box is a bad idea. Buy an A-Maze-In Smoke Tub or maze tray (tray holds more pellets). Cold smoke for 4-6 hours based on flavor preference.
          I hot smoke at 225-250 for 4 hours. Either way, still fry it or bake it when ready to eat. If you’re great with a knife, cut the skinniest slices you can. A slicing knife works better than a regular kitchen knife does. Eventually buy a decent deli slicer. Keep an eye on Facebook market place in areas where there are hunters. Some areas are better than others to search for this stuff.
          So cure 7 days, flipping it. Smoke it. Cut it. Cook it. Eat it. Repeat it.

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          fallis10 nice explanation. Thank you for this.

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          • F fallis10

            Ridley Acres are you injecting the brine into the bellies or dry/wet brining in bags? Liquid honey isn’t actually pure sugar. If you’re trying for a honey bacon like orange honey, honey cinnamon, etc, it is best to do a base brine, water down the honey before smoking and inject it into the belly, then while it cools in the fridge, smear the honey on top of the belly to cold and tack up along with whatever you are also adding to the honey. It is stay on the belly more this way and won’t potentially ruin an otherwise tried and true brine formula.

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            cdavis
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            fallis10 good info. Thanks

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            • F fallis10

              http://www.diggingdogfarm.com/page2.html
              Use this site for the cure ratio. You will need a reliable scale for this. It all depends on weight. Make sure you zero the scale to account for the weight of bowls or containers you are using so it doesn’t throw off the meat:ingredients ratios.
              Buy cure salt #1, and for a single belly, the smallest package you can buy will likely be enough. I buy 10 pound buckets, and make bacon 2-3 times per month, and a bucket lasts me over a year.
              Mix up the brine formula, put that plus the belly into food safe bags (I cut my belly in half “hamburger style” so I can still get full slices when I’m done, and I use Ziploc 2 gallon bags- 1 half of the belly in each bags).
              This will cure for 7 days in the fridge. Suggest using a cookie sheet under the bags in case they leak. You can always wrap the bags up tightly in plastic wrap to help with this as well. Every day, just pick a time that works for you so it is consistent, you want to flip the bellies over. This allows even brining and also makes you feel involved and important while the brine does its thing!
              After 7 days, remove the bellies, rinse them very well under cold water to remove excess salt (some people soak them for a few hours, but I never have and my bacon is fantastic).
              Here is the real divider amongst the bacon-making community: smoking. Some hot smoke and some cold smoke. Either way it is great. You just do you here and see which method you like more. Being winter, it is a great time to try cold smoking. If you have an offset smoker, lighting a fire in the smoke box is a bad idea. Buy an A-Maze-In Smoke Tub or maze tray (tray holds more pellets). Cold smoke for 4-6 hours based on flavor preference.
              I hot smoke at 225-250 for 4 hours. Either way, still fry it or bake it when ready to eat. If you’re great with a knife, cut the skinniest slices you can. A slicing knife works better than a regular kitchen knife does. Eventually buy a decent deli slicer. Keep an eye on Facebook market place in areas where there are hunters. Some areas are better than others to search for this stuff.
              So cure 7 days, flipping it. Smoke it. Cut it. Cook it. Eat it. Repeat it.

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              wrote on last edited by processhead
              #49

              fallis10 said in Basic bacon rundown please:

              http://www.diggingdogfarm.com/page2.html
              Use this site for the cure ratio. You will need a reliable scale for this. It all depends on weight. Make sure you zero the scale to account for the weight of bowls or containers you are using so it doesn’t throw off the meat:ingredients ratios.

              I would add one thing to fallis10 very good summary.
              If you are only doing one or two bellies, you are weighing some very small amounts of salt, sugar, and cure #1.

              To get the accuracy you need for weighing these small amounts, get a digital kitchen scale with a maximum range of 500 grams.

              They are cheap and give you the required accuracy for weighing out the dry ingredients.

              Unfortunately, I don’t see any low range scales on Walton’s web site but they are available on Amazon and elsewhere.
              Update: Here is the Walton’s scale.

              d7357cc8-d1ae-49fb-b2f4-90cef94cb548-image.png

              296c48d2-b199-43f8-b7fb-2793f9d6278c-image.png

              Paul

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              • processheadP processhead

                fallis10 said in Basic bacon rundown please:

                http://www.diggingdogfarm.com/page2.html
                Use this site for the cure ratio. You will need a reliable scale for this. It all depends on weight. Make sure you zero the scale to account for the weight of bowls or containers you are using so it doesn’t throw off the meat:ingredients ratios.

                I would add one thing to fallis10 very good summary.
                If you are only doing one or two bellies, you are weighing some very small amounts of salt, sugar, and cure #1.

                To get the accuracy you need for weighing these small amounts, get a digital kitchen scale with a maximum range of 500 grams.

                They are cheap and give you the required accuracy for weighing out the dry ingredients.

                Unfortunately, I don’t see any low range scales on Walton’s web site but they are available on Amazon and elsewhere.
                Update: Here is the Walton’s scale.

                d7357cc8-d1ae-49fb-b2f4-90cef94cb548-image.png

                296c48d2-b199-43f8-b7fb-2793f9d6278c-image.png

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                ND Mike
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                processhead maybe this one? Looks like it would work. https://www.waltonsinc.com/escali-precision-digital-scale

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                • ND MikeN ND Mike

                  processhead maybe this one? Looks like it would work. https://www.waltonsinc.com/escali-precision-digital-scale

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                  processhead
                  Regular Contributors Power User
                  wrote on last edited by processhead
                  #51

                  ND Mike said in Basic bacon rundown please:

                  processhead maybe this one? Looks like it would work. https://www.waltonsinc.com/escali-precision-digital-scale

                  Yes thanks ND Mike! That one is perfect and I missed it hidden in with the thermometers instead of the scales.

                  Paul

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                  • processheadP processhead

                    fallis10 said in Basic bacon rundown please:

                    http://www.diggingdogfarm.com/page2.html
                    Use this site for the cure ratio. You will need a reliable scale for this. It all depends on weight. Make sure you zero the scale to account for the weight of bowls or containers you are using so it doesn’t throw off the meat:ingredients ratios.

                    I would add one thing to fallis10 very good summary.
                    If you are only doing one or two bellies, you are weighing some very small amounts of salt, sugar, and cure #1.

                    To get the accuracy you need for weighing these small amounts, get a digital kitchen scale with a maximum range of 500 grams.

                    They are cheap and give you the required accuracy for weighing out the dry ingredients.

                    Unfortunately, I don’t see any low range scales on Walton’s web site but they are available on Amazon and elsewhere.
                    Update: Here is the Walton’s scale.

                    d7357cc8-d1ae-49fb-b2f4-90cef94cb548-image.png

                    296c48d2-b199-43f8-b7fb-2793f9d6278c-image.png

                    lkrfletcherL Offline
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                    lkrfletcher
                    Sous Vide Canning PK100 Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Veteran
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                    #52

                    processhead I have this scale. It is a good one.

                    Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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                    • processheadP processhead

                      ND Mike said in Basic bacon rundown please:

                      processhead maybe this one? Looks like it would work. https://www.waltonsinc.com/escali-precision-digital-scale

                      Yes thanks ND Mike! That one is perfect and I missed it hidden in with the thermometers instead of the scales.

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                      processhead
                      I have this one also. Works great.

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                      • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

                        processhead I have this scale. It is a good one.

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                        ND Mike
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                        lkrfletcher that is good to know. I have an el cheapo one that this could replace.

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                        • PapaSopP PapaSop

                          processhead
                          I have this one also. Works great.

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                          ND Mike
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                          PapaSop well, that is 2 yes votes for this scale.

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                          • F fallis10

                            http://www.diggingdogfarm.com/page2.html
                            Use this site for the cure ratio. You will need a reliable scale for this. It all depends on weight. Make sure you zero the scale to account for the weight of bowls or containers you are using so it doesn’t throw off the meat:ingredients ratios.
                            Buy cure salt #1, and for a single belly, the smallest package you can buy will likely be enough. I buy 10 pound buckets, and make bacon 2-3 times per month, and a bucket lasts me over a year.
                            Mix up the brine formula, put that plus the belly into food safe bags (I cut my belly in half “hamburger style” so I can still get full slices when I’m done, and I use Ziploc 2 gallon bags- 1 half of the belly in each bags).
                            This will cure for 7 days in the fridge. Suggest using a cookie sheet under the bags in case they leak. You can always wrap the bags up tightly in plastic wrap to help with this as well. Every day, just pick a time that works for you so it is consistent, you want to flip the bellies over. This allows even brining and also makes you feel involved and important while the brine does its thing!
                            After 7 days, remove the bellies, rinse them very well under cold water to remove excess salt (some people soak them for a few hours, but I never have and my bacon is fantastic).
                            Here is the real divider amongst the bacon-making community: smoking. Some hot smoke and some cold smoke. Either way it is great. You just do you here and see which method you like more. Being winter, it is a great time to try cold smoking. If you have an offset smoker, lighting a fire in the smoke box is a bad idea. Buy an A-Maze-In Smoke Tub or maze tray (tray holds more pellets). Cold smoke for 4-6 hours based on flavor preference.
                            I hot smoke at 225-250 for 4 hours. Either way, still fry it or bake it when ready to eat. If you’re great with a knife, cut the skinniest slices you can. A slicing knife works better than a regular kitchen knife does. Eventually buy a decent deli slicer. Keep an eye on Facebook market place in areas where there are hunters. Some areas are better than others to search for this stuff.
                            So cure 7 days, flipping it. Smoke it. Cut it. Cook it. Eat it. Repeat it.

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                            bocephus
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                            fallis10 Thanks for this, I will be trying bacon for the first time this year.

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                            • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

                              I was able to find a 10 lb pork belly. As I have never made bacon before, but have been inspired to try by this community, I am wondering if I can get a basic rundown of the process.

                              1. Which cure to buy?
                              2. Qty of cure to water for 10 lb.
                              3. Soak time?
                              4. Some time?
                              5. Is there a way to incorporate Jalapeño flavor? At what step would this take place?
                              6. Any other tips - like slicing -
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                              lkrfletcher cold smoked bacon today then vac sealed to bring everything to equilibrium in frig for 3-4 days.20211128_185801.jpg

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                              • processheadP processhead

                                ND Mike said in Basic bacon rundown please:

                                processhead maybe this one? Looks like it would work. https://www.waltonsinc.com/escali-precision-digital-scale

                                Yes thanks ND Mike! That one is perfect and I missed it hidden in with the thermometers instead of the scales.

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                                processhead The scale works great for measuring seasonings.

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                                • processheadP processhead

                                  ND Mike said in Basic bacon rundown please:

                                  processhead maybe this one? Looks like it would work. https://www.waltonsinc.com/escali-precision-digital-scale

                                  Yes thanks ND Mike! That one is perfect and I missed it hidden in with the thermometers instead of the scales.

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                                  processhead = These will more than likely be on sale during the livestream today. Just ask and they put things on sale.

                                  Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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                                  • processheadP processhead

                                    ND Mike said in Basic bacon rundown please:

                                    processhead maybe this one? Looks like it would work. https://www.waltonsinc.com/escali-precision-digital-scale

                                    Yes thanks ND Mike! That one is perfect and I missed it hidden in with the thermometers instead of the scales.

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                                    processhead You won’t regret getting this scale. I really like mine.

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                                      My scale has a glass platform, and product tends to overhang the readout, so I’d like to upgrade eventually.

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                                      • mrobisrM mrobisr

                                        lkrfletcher cold smoked bacon today then vac sealed to bring everything to equilibrium in frig for 3-4 days.20211128_185801.jpg

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                                        mrobisr your bacon undefined looks great 👍

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                                          Now that I’ve done a couple runs with the Walton’s dry rub, curious about the EQ method. First dumb question. With such a small amount of cure used, how does this get evenly dispersed through the meat? Thinking about sausage and sticks where I dissolve the cure in water for even dispersion.

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