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    marzig20
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    Another question I have is about the location of the crank handle on the side. I’m used to the handle being on the opposite side of the stuffing tube. Would this be hard for me to adapt to?

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    • marzig20M marzig20

      Another question I have is about the location of the crank handle on the side. I’m used to the handle being on the opposite side of the stuffing tube. Would this be hard for me to adapt to?

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      marzig20 said in Waltons 11 lb stuffer question:

      Another question I have is about the location of the crank handle on the side. I’m used to the handle being on the opposite side of the stuffing tube. Would this be hard for me to adapt to?

      The crank on the side seems pretty common and has decent ergonomics.

      On possible disadvantage with the crank on the side is when you have one person cranking and another filling, you might be crowding each other slightly. Never been a problem though, in my experience.

      Paul

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      • marzig20M marzig20

        Another question I have is about the location of the crank handle on the side. I’m used to the handle being on the opposite side of the stuffing tube. Would this be hard for me to adapt to?

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        Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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        marzig20 I believe it would. With it being on the opposite side, one can crank with the left hand and use the right hand on the stuffing tube.

        At least that is the way I use it. If it were at 90 degrees, I think it would be much harder for one person to operate.

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          A feature that would be nice is the crank ratchet option that Jonathon has been trying to find. IMO, that would really take the effort out of stuffing snack sticks.

          Paul

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          • processheadP processhead

            A feature that would be nice is the crank ratchet option that Jonathon has been trying to find. IMO, that would really take the effort out of stuffing snack sticks.

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            processhead You have a very technical mind. I would think that a ratchet would make it work, but do you think that is the fix to the problem? I think the gear ratio or something might be the solution. I only have used two stuffers, one an 11 pound LEM and a 30 pound F. Dick. Similar diameters cylinders, but the LEM is much harder to crank and I did often need a cheater bar or ratchet of some type for snack sticks. The F. Dick has no problem stuffing snack sticks at all, yet the throughput is faster than the LEM. Engineering wise, I can only think that the gear ratio is the difference.

            Your Thoughts? (BTW Happy Thanksgiving)

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              marzig20 I believe it would. With it being on the opposite side, one can crank with the left hand and use the right hand on the stuffing tube.

              At least that is the way I use it. If it were at 90 degrees, I think it would be much harder for one person to operate.

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              Chef said in Waltons 11 lb stuffer question:

              marzig20 I believe it would. With it being on the opposite side, one can crank with the left hand and use the right hand on the stuffing tube.

              At least that is the way I use it. If it were at 90 degrees, I think it would be much harder for one person to operate.

              That’s exactly my concern. In my mind’s eye, I can’t figure out how I would be able to do it by myself.

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                processhead You have a very technical mind. I would think that a ratchet would make it work, but do you think that is the fix to the problem? I think the gear ratio or something might be the solution. I only have used two stuffers, one an 11 pound LEM and a 30 pound F. Dick. Similar diameters cylinders, but the LEM is much harder to crank and I did often need a cheater bar or ratchet of some type for snack sticks. The F. Dick has no problem stuffing snack sticks at all, yet the throughput is faster than the LEM. Engineering wise, I can only think that the gear ratio is the difference.

                Your Thoughts? (BTW Happy Thanksgiving)

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                Chef said in Waltons 11 lb stuffer question:

                processhead You have a very technical mind. I would think that a ratchet would make it work, but do you think that is the fix to the problem? I think the gear ratio or something might be the solution. I only have used two stuffers, one an 11 pound LEM and a 30 pound F. Dick. Similar diameters cylinders, but the LEM is much harder to crank and I did often need a cheater bar or ratchet of some type for snack sticks. The F. Dick has no problem stuffing snack sticks at all, yet the throughput is faster than the LEM. Engineering wise, I can only think that the gear ratio is the difference.

                Your Thoughts? (BTW Happy Thanksgiving)

                You are correct, Chef . Ease of cranking is all about the gear ratio which is something we can’t change and the length of the crank handle, which in theory we can control.

                And the laws of physics and gear ratios say you can go slow with little effort or fast with more effort, all other things being equal.

                The only advantage the ratchet-crank brings you is that it allows you to operate the crank repeatedly in a position where it requires the least amount of effort. For most people that probably means a position where they can apply some body weight on the down stroke.

                The one thing I found I can control is the length of the crank handle on my antique stuffers. A longer handle means more leverage which reduces the amount of effort required. (but you have to move the handle a greater distance)

                I fabricate longer handles for my old stuffers and it is totally worth it.

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                Paul

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                • marzig20M marzig20

                  Chef said in Waltons 11 lb stuffer question:

                  marzig20 I believe it would. With it being on the opposite side, one can crank with the left hand and use the right hand on the stuffing tube.

                  At least that is the way I use it. If it were at 90 degrees, I think it would be much harder for one person to operate.

                  That’s exactly my concern. In my mind’s eye, I can’t figure out how I would be able to do it by myself.

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                  marzig20 said in Waltons 11 lb stuffer question:

                  Chef said in Waltons 11 lb stuffer question:

                  marzig20 I believe it would. With it being on the opposite side, one can crank with the left hand and use the right hand on the stuffing tube.

                  At least that is the way I use it. If it were at 90 degrees, I think it would be much harder for one person to operate.

                  That’s exactly my concern. In my mind’s eye, I can’t figure out how I would be able to do it by myself.

                  With the side crank stuffers, when stuffing by yourself, you basically have to crank with your right hand and fill the casings with your left hand. For a right-handed person, it probably feels awkward the first time to use your left hand for filling. I seem to have adapted to it OK, but it is certainly slower than working with a partner.

                  Paul

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                    marzig20 said in Waltons 11 lb stuffer question:

                    Chef said in Waltons 11 lb stuffer question:

                    marzig20 I believe it would. With it being on the opposite side, one can crank with the left hand and use the right hand on the stuffing tube.

                    At least that is the way I use it. If it were at 90 degrees, I think it would be much harder for one person to operate.

                    That’s exactly my concern. In my mind’s eye, I can’t figure out how I would be able to do it by myself.

                    With the side crank stuffers, when stuffing by yourself, you basically have to crank with your right hand and fill the casings with your left hand. For a right-handed person, it probably feels awkward the first time to use your left hand for filling. I seem to have adapted to it OK, but it is certainly slower than working with a partner.

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                    processhead that’s the way I stuff now and I’m comfortable with it. Wasn’t sure if my right hand cranking would interfere with my left hand.

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                      Everyone is different, what works for you might not work for me and vice-versa.
                      Best bet would be to find someone with a side crank model you could test drive.

                      Paul

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                      • processheadP processhead

                        Everyone is different, what works for you might not work for me and vice-versa.
                        Best bet would be to find someone with a side crank model you could test drive.

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                        processhead I agree. While you’re cranking do you have to move your left arm so much that you lose control of left hand stuffing? Don’t know anyone locally that makes sausage.

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                        • processheadP processhead

                          Everyone is different, what works for you might not work for me and vice-versa.
                          Best bet would be to find someone with a side crank model you could test drive.

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                            While I agree a ratchet would eliminate kickback and may give your arm a rest while straightening, (or curling) the rope
                            However there are times when the instant pressure release is desirable As at the end of the casing and especially with the all around jerky attachment
                            Also I could see a release problem if you bottom out the piston

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                            • marzig20M marzig20

                              Another question I have is about the location of the crank handle on the side. I’m used to the handle being on the opposite side of the stuffing tube. Would this be hard for me to adapt to?

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                              marzig20 I don’t think so, it might take a little getting used to. I have used stuffers with side and back handles and didn’t find it to hard to adjust.

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                                I think I might order one. The last question I had was if I can attach suction cups to the base. My old stuffer has a hole on each corner. I asked about it on Walton’s website and am waiting for an answer.

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                                  I think I might order one. The last question I had was if I can attach suction cups to the base. My old stuffer has a hole on each corner. I asked about it on Walton’s website and am waiting for an answer.

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                                  marzig20 I am pretty sure this has been done successfully.
                                  Someone here found suction cups on Amazon that they put on their Walton stuffer and they said it worked pretty well.

                                  Paul

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                                    marzig20 I am pretty sure this has been done successfully.
                                    Someone here found suction cups on Amazon that they put on their Walton stuffer and they said it worked pretty well.

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                                    processhead that’s where I got the ones that I use on my stuffer and mixer. I have limited space and they work well for attachment to my kitchen counter without having to use clamps.

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                                      I pulled the trigger and ordered the 11 lb stuffer this morning. Was pleasantly surprised when I saw that Walton’s had dropped the price to $169. Thanks everyone for your comments and suggestions!

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                                        Just got an email back from Walton’s notifying that my stuffer has shipped. They answered my question about attaching suction cups to the stuffer quickly. Great customer service!

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                                          marzig20 you will love it

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