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  • Tex_77T Tex_77

    cdavis canning tomatoes has all most got me ready to pull up my plants. Thank goodness the end is in site.

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    cdavis
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    Tex_77 I bet my wife wishes I would pull mine up. The plants look rough but still producing like crazy. But it’ll end before too long. Then I’ll have to talk her into green tomato relish.

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    • cdavisC cdavis

      Tex_77 we couldn’t find ball lids so had to use another kind. Do you know what caused this during the hot water bath. 7 out of the 36 did this. 20210907_113236.jpg

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      cdavis I wonder if its a combo of cheaply made lids and not enough head space left in the jar.

      hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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        Gotta believe that with the number of years of canning that Mrs Davis has under her belt, it has to be plainly the lids.

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        I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
        Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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        • Denny OD Denny O

          Gotta believe that with the number of years of canning that Mrs Davis has under her belt, it has to be plainly the lids.

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          @dennyo just so my meals keep coming I agreed with her that it was the lids. These lids are much thinner than ball lids and they just look cheap. I think maybe the rings needed to be a little loser.

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            I’ve always firm grip tighten the lids not loosely snuged down.

            LOL Copy on the agreement! I do most of the cooking here.

            Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
            I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
            Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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            • cdavisC cdavis

              Tex_77 we couldn’t find ball lids so had to use another kind. Do you know what caused this during the hot water bath. 7 out of the 36 did this. 20210907_113236.jpg

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              cdavis have never encountered that

              Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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              • Tex_77T Tex_77

                cdavis have never encountered that

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                Tex_77 thanks for the response

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                • kyleK kyle

                  Surg interesting. I wonder if thats the tops that @DennyO uses. Have you used them before surg?

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                  kyle @DennyO
                  Yeah looks very similar. Have used these for a while now. They work great in my opinion. There is a glass disc in there right on top of shredded cabbage. I like the idea of using a full leaf to keep it all submerged. Will try that next batch.

                  “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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                  • cdavisC cdavis

                    Tex_77 we couldn’t find ball lids so had to use another kind. Do you know what caused this during the hot water bath. 7 out of the 36 did this. 20210907_113236.jpg

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                    cdavis Usually either too full or boiled too hard when processing, another thing could be rings were too tight initially.

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                      cdavis Usually either too full or boiled too hard when processing, another thing could be rings were too tight initially.

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                      bocephus the head space was good. It looks like a combination of cheaper lids than she is used to and rings a little too tight. Thanks for your response 👍

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                        I have bought the seals online and they did not preform as well as the name brand and were used in the same process as the others

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                        • cdavisC cdavis

                          Tex_77 we couldn’t find ball lids so had to use another kind. Do you know what caused this during the hot water bath. 7 out of the 36 did this. 20210907_113236.jpg

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                          cdavis I’ve been asking some folks who have been canning longer than I’ve been alive and none of them has seen a lid act like that. At first I was thinking there may not have been enough air gap at top and the tomatoes bubbled or expanded a little during the bath, but from your pics, there seems to be plenty of air on top. It sounds like a defective lid.

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                          • GWG8541G GWG8541

                            cdavis I’ve been asking some folks who have been canning longer than I’ve been alive and none of them has seen a lid act like that. At first I was thinking there may not have been enough air gap at top and the tomatoes bubbled or expanded a little during the bath, but from your pics, there seems to be plenty of air on top. It sounds like a defective lid.

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                            GWG8541 your right the head space was good. I think the lids are junk but that is all we could get. Maybe she had the rings a little tight. She was in the process of redoing them when I left for work this evening. I’ll know the verdict when I get home in the morning. Thanks for your input.

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                            • cdavisC cdavis

                              bocephus the head space was good. It looks like a combination of cheaper lids than she is used to and rings a little too tight. Thanks for your response 👍

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                              cdavis I have had the same problem this year with the off brand lids.I also had some that you can not get the bands off without popping the lids.I did notice with mine if I used the new lids with the real ball bands that I didnt have that problem.Maybe just luck

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                                cdavis I have had the same problem this year with the off brand lids.I also had some that you can not get the bands off without popping the lids.I did notice with mine if I used the new lids with the real ball bands that I didnt have that problem.Maybe just luck

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                                RON PARRISH well we found out that it is the lids. She had to redo 13 of the 36 quarts. Being careful not to put the rings on too tight still had 3 lids do the same thing. She’s frustrated but on the bright side I have 3 quarts of spicy v8 in the fridge that I have to consume before it goes bad.

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                                  cdavis I have had the same problem this year with the off brand lids.I also had some that you can not get the bands off without popping the lids.I did notice with mine if I used the new lids with the real ball bands that I didnt have that problem.Maybe just luck

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                                  RON PARRISH thanks for the tip about the ball bands. I’ll pass that on to her.

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                                    Does anyone here can potatoes? We had a good crop this year and was thinking about trying it. I found a recipe in the ball book, but would like to know if people do it and how they turn out.

                                    hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                    • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

                                      cdavis over-pressure. The pressure didn’t bleed off through the seal. Were the bands to tight?

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                                      johnsbrewhouse Perhaps combined with not enough head space?

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                                      • cdavisC cdavis

                                        RON PARRISH well we found out that it is the lids. She had to redo 13 of the 36 quarts. Being careful not to put the rings on too tight still had 3 lids do the same thing. She’s frustrated but on the bright side I have 3 quarts of spicy v8 in the fridge that I have to consume before it goes bad.

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                                        cdavis What lid brand did you use? Same band brand? We have used the Walmart brand a lot when Ball or Kerr was not available, for the most part have not had a problem with just a few exceptions. Definitely not that, even when I made my King Creole Sauce & some other troublesome projects. King Creole actually never gave me a problem, but some other Marinara type sauces have. Mainly the leaking thing or band completely unscrewing & thus total blowout, but that was fairly rare.

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                                          the internet seals are of a thinner gauge than the standard

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