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  • STRYKER ACES STRYKER ACE

    Hello Meat Smokers, I am new to smoking, I bought a Masterbuilt Electric 30" smoker which I learned yesterday is too small and I don’t get the set it and forget it mentality if I am adding wood chips every hour. Yesterday, I smoked Spare Ribs using the 3-2-1 method. When I eat ribs, I like to have a bit of a bite and a chew to them. I don’t know what happened but some of my meat was charcoaled on the tips and edges. Very dry and stringy. The rest of the meat was fall off the bone tender and all though delicious, maybe a bit too smokey tasting for me. These ribs were so tender I could barely get them out of the smoker with any meat sticking to the bone at all. I know there is a learning curve but I thought the 3-2-1 method and ribs couldn’t be any easier. My temp was right in the 275 range the entire time, I found that the MB Smoker was definitely in need of constant chip replacement to produce a steady smoke. I am after a tender rib but one that stays on the bone until I bite into it. Where did I go wrong yesterday?

    ChefC Offline
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    Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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    STRYKER ACE Just my opinion, but I never smoke ribs above 225 degrees F. What you describe is over cooked. Also need to be aware of the rub and/or sauce you use. Those with more sugar tends to carbonize at the higher temperatures.

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      Tex_77
      Team Blue Power User Traeger Primo Grills PK Grills Canning Sous Vide Community Moderator
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      #3

      Chef is correct, the 3-2-1 is generally used at a temp of 225. Lower your temp next time and you should be fine. Also 3-2-1 is just a guideline, its not fool proof, every piece of meat cooks differently.

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        Midwest_kc
        Team Blue Sous Vide PK Grills Green Mountain Grill Regular Contributors
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        What Chef and Tex said. Also, 3-2-1 ribs are generally designed to be fall off the bone, so if you like a bit more chew (I do, as well), then you’ll want to cut down on your time. If you thought they were too smokey, I’d maybe try 2-2-1, or 2-1.5-1, both at 225. If you want to cook at 275, your ribs are going to cook quite a bit quicker, which is fine. You’ll just need to play with your timelines - that’s the fun of smoking meat, is the experimenting and trying to find something new!

        My biggest recommendation, and it will have a learning curve, is learn how to cook them without that set timeline. Cook to color, wrap til they’re done, sauce and put back on for just 5-10 minutes to set the sauce. You’ll have a general timeline in your head based on your cooker and preferences, but be flexible.

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          STRYKER ACE
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          Yes, Thanks guys, I have read several books and watched multiple videos and I think I may have overcomplicated the cook. The more I think about it, I believe I may have merged several different examples into one accidentally. My plan is to learn by practice and when I can make myself happy and my guests wanting more, I will build my own smoker. Still don’t like having to add chips so often to the MB but at least they have a great function for doing so. Thanks again!!! Until my next Duck Up!

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          • STRYKER ACES STRYKER ACE

            Yes, Thanks guys, I have read several books and watched multiple videos and I think I may have overcomplicated the cook. The more I think about it, I believe I may have merged several different examples into one accidentally. My plan is to learn by practice and when I can make myself happy and my guests wanting more, I will build my own smoker. Still don’t like having to add chips so often to the MB but at least they have a great function for doing so. Thanks again!!! Until my next Duck Up!

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            Mcjagger
            Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt PK100
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            STRYKER ACE When I use my MB, I just use the heat setting and an a-maze-n smoking pellet tube with pellets, found online, no need to add chips every 45 minutes, and will last anywhere up to 4-6 hours depending on what size you get…just another option for you to consider

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            • STRYKER ACES STRYKER ACE

              Yes, Thanks guys, I have read several books and watched multiple videos and I think I may have overcomplicated the cook. The more I think about it, I believe I may have merged several different examples into one accidentally. My plan is to learn by practice and when I can make myself happy and my guests wanting more, I will build my own smoker. Still don’t like having to add chips so often to the MB but at least they have a great function for doing so. Thanks again!!! Until my next Duck Up!

              ChefC Offline
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              Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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              STRYKER ACE When I first started smoking and doing sausage, I over thought everything. My product got better when I began having fun and didn’t sweat the details. I now cook about 500 slabs of ribs a year ( not near some commercial productions) and just have fun.

              It is important to note that our section on drink of choice is more important than the details about the smoking. The entire problem just may have been not having the proper beverage to help you during the smoking process… LOL

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                bocephus
                Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
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                You can get an add on for your MB that basically makes it a pellet smoker. You attach it to the side where you add the wood chips and it produces smoke from the pellets. I have found that it sometimes needs a gentle shake to ensure the pellets have fallen, but it makes it basically a set and and forget.

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                • STRYKER ACES STRYKER ACE

                  Hello Meat Smokers, I am new to smoking, I bought a Masterbuilt Electric 30" smoker which I learned yesterday is too small and I don’t get the set it and forget it mentality if I am adding wood chips every hour. Yesterday, I smoked Spare Ribs using the 3-2-1 method. When I eat ribs, I like to have a bit of a bite and a chew to them. I don’t know what happened but some of my meat was charcoaled on the tips and edges. Very dry and stringy. The rest of the meat was fall off the bone tender and all though delicious, maybe a bit too smokey tasting for me. These ribs were so tender I could barely get them out of the smoker with any meat sticking to the bone at all. I know there is a learning curve but I thought the 3-2-1 method and ribs couldn’t be any easier. My temp was right in the 275 range the entire time, I found that the MB Smoker was definitely in need of constant chip replacement to produce a steady smoke. I am after a tender rib but one that stays on the bone until I bite into it. Where did I go wrong yesterday?

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                  AdamCA
                  Team Blue Regular Contributors Green Mountain Grill Masterbuilt
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                  STRYKER ACE I have the same smoker and if you moisten the sawdust or chips you won’t have to add them as often. Also remember you don’t have to have the smoke going the whole time you cook either, usually an hour or two will get you a good smokey flavor without over doing it. Also as was pointed out a couple times your temp was too high, which would also lead to you having to add chips more often.

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                    Randyman
                    Team Blue
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                    I have the same smoker and as mentioned above I use a smoker tube with pellets that I place upright in the smoker after getting the pellets going. I usually do just a half tube of pellets and that gives me about 2 hours of good smoke. It works great if you’re doing something like jerkey or snack sticks where you don’t want high heat but still want some smoke. I don’t get any smoke out of the little wood chip chamber that came with the MB unless I have the temp set for over 180. With the smoke tube I can have smoke at 125 degrees.

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                    • STRYKER ACES STRYKER ACE

                      Hello Meat Smokers, I am new to smoking, I bought a Masterbuilt Electric 30" smoker which I learned yesterday is too small and I don’t get the set it and forget it mentality if I am adding wood chips every hour. Yesterday, I smoked Spare Ribs using the 3-2-1 method. When I eat ribs, I like to have a bit of a bite and a chew to them. I don’t know what happened but some of my meat was charcoaled on the tips and edges. Very dry and stringy. The rest of the meat was fall off the bone tender and all though delicious, maybe a bit too smokey tasting for me. These ribs were so tender I could barely get them out of the smoker with any meat sticking to the bone at all. I know there is a learning curve but I thought the 3-2-1 method and ribs couldn’t be any easier. My temp was right in the 275 range the entire time, I found that the MB Smoker was definitely in need of constant chip replacement to produce a steady smoke. I am after a tender rib but one that stays on the bone until I bite into it. Where did I go wrong yesterday?

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                      mrobisr
                      Team Blue Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
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                      STRYKER ACE get the cold smoker kit and it will smoke for hours.

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                      • ChefC Chef

                        STRYKER ACE When I first started smoking and doing sausage, I over thought everything. My product got better when I began having fun and didn’t sweat the details. I now cook about 500 slabs of ribs a year ( not near some commercial productions) and just have fun.

                        It is important to note that our section on drink of choice is more important than the details about the smoking. The entire problem just may have been not having the proper beverage to help you during the smoking process… LOL

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                        craigrice
                        Power User Canning Team Orange Regular Contributors Veteran Masterbuilt
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                        Chef have you named your smoker yet ? lol

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                        • craigriceC craigrice

                          Chef have you named your smoker yet ? lol

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                          Chef
                          Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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                          craigrice I haven’t

                          I think we need a contest. I’ll send a pecan pie to the person with the most votes.

                          Let’s start now. Name the smoker.

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                          • ChefC Chef

                            craigrice I haven’t

                            I think we need a contest. I’ll send a pecan pie to the person with the most votes.

                            Let’s start now. Name the smoker.

                            IMG_3808.jpg

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                            • ChefC Chef

                              craigrice I haven’t

                              I think we need a contest. I’ll send a pecan pie to the person with the most votes.

                              Let’s start now. Name the smoker.

                              IMG_3808.jpg

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                              johnsbrewhouse
                              Team Blue Regular Contributors Traeger Power User Veteran Sous Vide Canning
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                              Chef Smokomotive #1

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                              • ChefC Chef

                                craigrice I haven’t

                                I think we need a contest. I’ll send a pecan pie to the person with the most votes.

                                Let’s start now. Name the smoker.

                                IMG_3808.jpg

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                                kyle
                                Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
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                                Chef heavenly smoke

                                hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                • STRYKER ACES STRYKER ACE

                                  Yes, Thanks guys, I have read several books and watched multiple videos and I think I may have overcomplicated the cook. The more I think about it, I believe I may have merged several different examples into one accidentally. My plan is to learn by practice and when I can make myself happy and my guests wanting more, I will build my own smoker. Still don’t like having to add chips so often to the MB but at least they have a great function for doing so. Thanks again!!! Until my next Duck Up!

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                                  mdseaside
                                  Team Orange
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                                  STRYKER ACE Learning by practice is the best way to go. There are so many small variables between smoker design, outside temp and ever humidity that can change the final product. I started keeping a log book of what I made and how. Then I take notes on how it came out and if I felt like I needed to make some small changes in the next batch. Experimenting is the fun part.

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                                  • STRYKER ACES STRYKER ACE

                                    Yes, Thanks guys, I have read several books and watched multiple videos and I think I may have overcomplicated the cook. The more I think about it, I believe I may have merged several different examples into one accidentally. My plan is to learn by practice and when I can make myself happy and my guests wanting more, I will build my own smoker. Still don’t like having to add chips so often to the MB but at least they have a great function for doing so. Thanks again!!! Until my next Duck Up!

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                                    YooperDog
                                    Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
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                                    STRYKER ACE I agree with the 225°, I also have a MB and have found their temp control is a bit lacking. Keep an eye on what the temp variation are during the heating cycles and adjust accordingly.

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                                    • ChefC Chef

                                      craigrice I haven’t

                                      I think we need a contest. I’ll send a pecan pie to the person with the most votes.

                                      Let’s start now. Name the smoker.

                                      IMG_3808.jpg

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                                      lkrfletcher
                                      Sous Vide Canning PK100 Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Veteran
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                                      Chef
                                      KONG

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                                        lkrfletcher ooooooo that’s good! But so is johnsbrewhouse Smokomotive. Those are the 2 leaders in my mind.

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                                        • ChefC Chef

                                          craigrice I haven’t

                                          I think we need a contest. I’ll send a pecan pie to the person with the most votes.

                                          Let’s start now. Name the smoker.

                                          IMG_3808.jpg

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