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  • P PokeChop

    Hello Everyone,

    I have a LEM BIG BITE DUAL GEAR 10 LB. SAUSAGE STUFFER and want to make smaller Snack Stix. The smallest horn LEM makes for that stuffer is 16mm or 5/8".

    Does anyone know if you can use the Walton’s horns, specifically the Walton’s 10mm SS Stuffing Tube: SKU: 670866 , on my LEM Stuffer?

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    JoeB
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    @cpscholz id or od. ??

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      bocephus said in Stuffer Tub Compatibilities:

      Measure the end that connects to the stuffer on one of your tubes, if that is the same size as waltons it should fit. One concern is how your stuffer will handle the pressure caused by using the smaller tube, it could cause problems at the o-ring on your stuffer.

      Yeah, someone in customer service should be able to give you the diameter of the [censored] on the Walton funnel. Even if the Walton funnel was larger than the LEM, it wouldn’t be too difficult to grind the edge down to match the LEM [censored] size.

      Edit: Wow, who would have thought that f-l-a-n-g-e is worthy of being CENSORED

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      processhead we now who’s mind is in the gutter. THE CENSOR BOARD!!!

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      • J JoeB

        processhead Paul, I don’t do snack sticks but 5/8 od i would think is a good size. 1/4 is pretty small od ??

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        JoeB said in Stuffer Tub Compatibilities:

        processhead Paul, I don’t do snack sticks but 5/8 od i would think is a good size. 1/4 is pretty small od ??

        I would have real reservations about a 1/4 tube on manual stuffer and can’t picture being able to push any thing thicker than water through one. I have a 3/8 O.D tube and gave up on using it.
        It just requires too much effort.

        My go to stuffer funnel for snack sticks in a sheep casing is a 1/2 inch O.D. tube and it still gives you a work out.

        A 5/8 inch funnel will work, but if you are using collagen casings, it will require a fairly large one just to fit over it. May bump your sticks up to a size a little large than is typical for a snack stick.

        Here is a chart from the Walton’s collage casing page showing the casing size limits for various funnel sizes.

        A 5/8 funnel is 16mm. That limits you to a 26mm casing which would be right at 1 inch diameter for the filled casing. That’s a pretty fat snack stick.

        Casing-Funnel Chart.jpg

        Paul

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          JoeB said in Stuffer Tub Compatibilities:

          processhead Paul, I don’t do snack sticks but 5/8 od i would think is a good size. 1/4 is pretty small od ??

          I would have real reservations about a 1/4 tube on manual stuffer and can’t picture being able to push any thing thicker than water through one. I have a 3/8 O.D tube and gave up on using it.
          It just requires too much effort.

          My go to stuffer funnel for snack sticks in a sheep casing is a 1/2 inch O.D. tube and it still gives you a work out.

          A 5/8 inch funnel will work, but if you are using collagen casings, it will require a fairly large one just to fit over it. May bump your sticks up to a size a little large than is typical for a snack stick.

          Here is a chart from the Walton’s collage casing page showing the casing size limits for various funnel sizes.

          A 5/8 funnel is 16mm. That limits you to a 26mm casing which would be right at 1 inch diameter for the filled casing. That’s a pretty fat snack stick.

          Casing-Funnel Chart.jpg

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          processhead great chart and I assume it is listed as od. Will have to measure my LEM 5lb stuffer horns one may be 3/8 od for snack sticks. Cheers

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            Grimpuppy
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            I have that tube. The f.l.a,n.g.e is 2 1/16” o.d. The 16 mm casing will slide onto it. I use it on a 5 pound stuffer with an adapter, and it is a bear if your mixture isn’t pretty moist. I use the 3/8” for 16 mm most of the time. You have to manually feed the casing onto a 3/8” tube as it won’t slide on while they are compressed in a strand. My 5 pound stuffer handles the 3/8” pretty easy.

            47C6041F-CE95-4B3F-9E68-679FFF7F9006.jpeg

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            • GrimpuppyG Grimpuppy

              I have that tube. The f.l.a,n.g.e is 2 1/16” o.d. The 16 mm casing will slide onto it. I use it on a 5 pound stuffer with an adapter, and it is a bear if your mixture isn’t pretty moist. I use the 3/8” for 16 mm most of the time. You have to manually feed the casing onto a 3/8” tube as it won’t slide on while they are compressed in a strand. My 5 pound stuffer handles the 3/8” pretty easy.

              47C6041F-CE95-4B3F-9E68-679FFF7F9006.jpeg

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              Grimpuppy thanks I thought I had one of those. You’re right min. 100g water to a kg for stuffing. Now I don’t have to look😊

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              • GrimpuppyG Grimpuppy

                I have that tube. The f.l.a,n.g.e is 2 1/16” o.d. The 16 mm casing will slide onto it. I use it on a 5 pound stuffer with an adapter, and it is a bear if your mixture isn’t pretty moist. I use the 3/8” for 16 mm most of the time. You have to manually feed the casing onto a 3/8” tube as it won’t slide on while they are compressed in a strand. My 5 pound stuffer handles the 3/8” pretty easy.

                47C6041F-CE95-4B3F-9E68-679FFF7F9006.jpeg

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                Grimpuppy n fact the manual reads to add 100mg water and not delay after mixing

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                  I posted it a while back, but this is the adapter I had 3D printed to use large flange tubes on my 5 pound stuffer. 69D60D9D-8D16-45C9-A10A-8980E84D79A3.jpeg 73BF3E75-FD60-4A77-9AA8-8933A25DDC89.jpeg

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                  • GrimpuppyG Grimpuppy

                    I posted it a while back, but this is the adapter I had 3D printed to use large flange tubes on my 5 pound stuffer. 69D60D9D-8D16-45C9-A10A-8980E84D79A3.jpeg 73BF3E75-FD60-4A77-9AA8-8933A25DDC89.jpeg

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                    Grimpuppy Nice! One more practical application of 3-D printers.

                    Paul

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                      I have a Hakka 15lb stuffer and the 12mm Walton tube fits perfectly. Not exactly what you asked but they look to be fairly similar.
                      I will add that I did 25lb jalapeno/hi-temp cheddar sticks and it too massive effort to stuff with 12mm tube and 19mm casings. I did only use 1qt water and had sure-gel in it so next time will increase the water but based on that experience I’d reconsider the 10mm tube. I grabbed 21mm casings and am hoping they fit over a 16mm tube for next time.

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                      • Jamieson22J Jamieson22

                        I have a Hakka 15lb stuffer and the 12mm Walton tube fits perfectly. Not exactly what you asked but they look to be fairly similar.
                        I will add that I did 25lb jalapeno/hi-temp cheddar sticks and it too massive effort to stuff with 12mm tube and 19mm casings. I did only use 1qt water and had sure-gel in it so next time will increase the water but based on that experience I’d reconsider the 10mm tube. I grabbed 21mm casings and am hoping they fit over a 16mm tube for next time.

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                        Jamieson22
                        I have to think that chucks of cheese and pepper in the sausage mix make it even harder to push that meat down a small diameter stuffer tube.

                        Paul

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                          Jamieson22
                          I have to think that chucks of cheese and pepper in the sausage mix make it even harder to push that meat down a small diameter stuffer tube.

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                          processhead Absolutely! It literally took all my wife’s strength to crank it. Seeing as she is vegetarian it was not a fun time for her.

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                            processhead Absolutely! It literally took all my wife’s strength to crank it. Seeing as she is vegetarian it was not a fun time for her.

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                            Jamieson22 said in Stuffer Tub Compatibilities:

                            processhead Absolutely! It literally took all my wife’s strength to crank it. Seeing as she is vegetarian it was not a fun time for her.

                            Wow. She is making the ultimate sacrifice for you there.

                            Paul

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                            • GrimpuppyG Grimpuppy

                              I posted it a while back, but this is the adapter I had 3D printed to use large flange tubes on my 5 pound stuffer. 69D60D9D-8D16-45C9-A10A-8980E84D79A3.jpeg 73BF3E75-FD60-4A77-9AA8-8933A25DDC89.jpeg

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                              Grimpuppy If you start selling them, put me on the list. Would solve a problem I fight

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                                Grimpuppy Nicely done, way to find a solution to a problem!

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                                • B bocephus

                                  Measure the end that connects to the stuffer on one of your tubes, if that is the same size as waltons it should fit. One concern is how your stuffer will handle the pressure caused by using the smaller tube, it could cause problems at the o-ring on your stuffer.

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                                  bocephus Unfortunately, I do not have a Walton’s 10mm SS Stuffing Tube: SKU: 670866 to measure. I’m hoping someone on the forum who has one can measure and share. My LEM stuffer tube is 55mm or 2 and 11/64ths inches. (see picture below)

                                  LEM Tube.jpg

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                                    I have that tube. The f.l.a,n.g.e is 2 1/16” o.d. The 16 mm casing will slide onto it. I use it on a 5 pound stuffer with an adapter, and it is a bear if your mixture isn’t pretty moist. I use the 3/8” for 16 mm most of the time. You have to manually feed the casing onto a 3/8” tube as it won’t slide on while they are compressed in a strand. My 5 pound stuffer handles the 3/8” pretty easy.

                                    47C6041F-CE95-4B3F-9E68-679FFF7F9006.jpeg

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                                    Grimpuppy Thanks for the pic! To make sure I understand, when you say “I have that tube.”, you mean the Walton’s 10mm SS Stuffing Tube: SKU: 670866? That is the tube in your photo?

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                                      bocephus said in Stuffer Tub Compatibilities:

                                      Measure the end that connects to the stuffer on one of your tubes, if that is the same size as waltons it should fit. One concern is how your stuffer will handle the pressure caused by using the smaller tube, it could cause problems at the o-ring on your stuffer.

                                      Yeah, someone in customer service should be able to give you the diameter of the [censored] on the Walton funnel. Even if the Walton funnel was larger than the LEM, it wouldn’t be too difficult to grind the edge down to match the LEM [censored] size.

                                      Edit: Wow, who would have thought that f-l-a-n-g-e is worthy of being CENSORED

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                                      processhead I received the info from Customer Service (Muchas Gracias!)

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                                        Thank you everyone for the replies! Much appreciated! With your information and what I received from Walton’s Customer Service (Thanks Lori!), here’s what I learned. My LEM tubes measure 2 11/64" in diameter. That’s 3/64th" larger in diameter larger than Walton’s tubes. That’s 3/128th" on each side of the (part that cannot be named- that’s funny!) flang*e, which is miniscule, and probably within manufacturing tolerances. Therefore, I’m going to order the 10mm and 12mm Walton’s tubes and give it a go!

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                                          Let us know how it works, as others on this sight also have LEM stuffers.

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