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This is a suggestion for the Sausage stuffers!

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  • Miket482000M Offline
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    #3

    It is a sausage stuffer the ones you get here, and you would use a regular socket ratchet handle on a specially machined socket that fits onto the stud on the stuffer for the handle that came with it. I am looking at making a 1/2 inch drive socket that way I will have just as long of a lever as the original handle provides, maybe even a bit longer. Then to stuff all I have to do is raise and lower the handle in a pumping action with all of the force being applied in a downward direction. My 11 pound stuffer even with suction feet still lifts on the up swing of the handle when stuffing, so I am constantly taking the handle off and repositioning it so as to only be pulling down. You have greater leverage pulling down so stuffing is by fare easier if you only have to pull down and it would be much faster to not have to reposition the handle and deal with the splines in the handle hub and on the shaft of the stuffer not necessarily being in the best position do do that. As far as the ratchet not moving the nut much per click, that is only an issue if you are using one in a confined space and can only move the ratchet one or two clicks, in the case of the stuffer you are free to move it as far as you like.

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    • Miket482000M Miket482000

      It is a sausage stuffer the ones you get here, and you would use a regular socket ratchet handle on a specially machined socket that fits onto the stud on the stuffer for the handle that came with it. I am looking at making a 1/2 inch drive socket that way I will have just as long of a lever as the original handle provides, maybe even a bit longer. Then to stuff all I have to do is raise and lower the handle in a pumping action with all of the force being applied in a downward direction. My 11 pound stuffer even with suction feet still lifts on the up swing of the handle when stuffing, so I am constantly taking the handle off and repositioning it so as to only be pulling down. You have greater leverage pulling down so stuffing is by fare easier if you only have to pull down and it would be much faster to not have to reposition the handle and deal with the splines in the handle hub and on the shaft of the stuffer not necessarily being in the best position do do that. As far as the ratchet not moving the nut much per click, that is only an issue if you are using one in a confined space and can only move the ratchet one or two clicks, in the case of the stuffer you are free to move it as far as you like.

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      YooperDog
      Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
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      #4

      Miket482000 My mistake I got it in my brain that you were talking about a meat mixer. You might be able to get away with a breaker bar. Easier to find in a longer length than a ratchet.

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        #5

        Miket482000 Jonathan talked about this how they are working on having such a handle actually designed for the new stuffer! Would be awesome incorporated in the original handles!

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        • processheadP Offline
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          wrote on last edited by processhead
          #6

          I retrofitted my antique stuffers with an extended handle that essentially does the same thing. One end is always on the downstroke. The added length gives extra leverage when doing snack sticks.

          I do like the idea of a ratchet though.

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          Paul

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          • YooperDogY YooperDog

            Miket482000 My mistake I got it in my brain that you were talking about a meat mixer. You might be able to get away with a breaker bar. Easier to find in a longer length than a ratchet.

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            Team Orange
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            YooperDog A breaker bar would still require taking it of and putting it back on in a new position and you would still need a socket to fit the stud on the stuffer so a ratchet handle preferably a 1/2 inch drive would work great I would think as most of them are about the same length or a little longer than the original handle.

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            • processheadP processhead

              I retrofitted my antique stuffers with an extended handle that essentially does the same thing. One end is always on the downstroke. The added length gives extra leverage when doing snack sticks.

              I do like the idea of a ratchet though.

              DSCN3039 (Small).JPG

              20180314_093912.jpg

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              Team Orange
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              processhead That would work well too. the only problem with the stuffer I have is that the stud is not square it is splined so nothing really fits well unless you machine something to fit it. I have an Idea using some plastic wrap and wax on the stud, then some JB weld in a socket that is a little bigger than the drive stud on the Mixer. I am going to try that in a few days to see if it will hold and take the tork.

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              • Miket482000M Miket482000

                processhead That would work well too. the only problem with the stuffer I have is that the stud is not square it is splined so nothing really fits well unless you machine something to fit it. I have an Idea using some plastic wrap and wax on the stud, then some JB weld in a socket that is a little bigger than the drive stud on the Mixer. I am going to try that in a few days to see if it will hold and take the tork.

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                Miket482000
                Team Orange
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                Miket482000 Not mixer I meant to say Stuffer

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                • Miket482000M Miket482000

                  processhead That would work well too. the only problem with the stuffer I have is that the stud is not square it is splined so nothing really fits well unless you machine something to fit it. I have an Idea using some plastic wrap and wax on the stud, then some JB weld in a socket that is a little bigger than the drive stud on the Mixer. I am going to try that in a few days to see if it will hold and take the tork.

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                  johnsbrewhouse
                  Team Blue Regular Contributors Traeger Power User Veteran Sous Vide Canning
                  wrote on last edited by johnsbrewhouse
                  #10

                  Miket482000 They make square drive sockets that fit the shaft. Just look for an 8 point socket. It will fit the shaft exactly and tight and you will be able to use a long handled ratchet to turn it. They look like this www.[link removed]/Stanley-Proto-J52109-5-piece-8-point/dp/B01H2YWI4C/ref=asc_df_B01H2YWI4C/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=330443528285&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17108450847114869075&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061299&hvtargid=pla-718546574807&psc=1 Add Amazon for link removed

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                  • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

                    Miket482000 They make square drive sockets that fit the shaft. Just look for an 8 point socket. It will fit the shaft exactly and tight and you will be able to use a long handled ratchet to turn it. They look like this www.[link removed]/Stanley-Proto-J52109-5-piece-8-point/dp/B01H2YWI4C/ref=asc_df_B01H2YWI4C/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=330443528285&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17108450847114869075&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061299&hvtargid=pla-718546574807&psc=1 Add Amazon for link removed

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                    Miket482000
                    Team Orange
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                    johnsbrewhouse said in This is a suggestion for the Sausage stuffers!:

                    tanley-Proto-J52109-5-piece-8-point

                    I will take a look at that and see, it seems like I tried to fit one of those already, but I may be mistaken. I will have to check again.

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                    • Miket482000M Miket482000

                      johnsbrewhouse said in This is a suggestion for the Sausage stuffers!:

                      tanley-Proto-J52109-5-piece-8-point

                      I will take a look at that and see, it seems like I tried to fit one of those already, but I may be mistaken. I will have to check again.

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                      johnsbrewhouse
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                      Miket482000 You may have tried an inverted Torx bit, they are different from 8 point sockets. 8 point sockets are actually made for square nuts.

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                      • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

                        Miket482000 They make square drive sockets that fit the shaft. Just look for an 8 point socket. It will fit the shaft exactly and tight and you will be able to use a long handled ratchet to turn it. They look like this www.[link removed]/Stanley-Proto-J52109-5-piece-8-point/dp/B01H2YWI4C/ref=asc_df_B01H2YWI4C/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=330443528285&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17108450847114869075&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061299&hvtargid=pla-718546574807&psc=1 Add Amazon for link removed

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                        Miket482000
                        Team Orange
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                        johnsbrewhouse The 8 point socket does not work! It fits, but does not go into the groves far enough and when under pressure it slips. I has a hard time getting the socket off as it had twisted on the shaft far enough to get jammed on top of the ridges. It was a good fit no slop when on the shaft, just not enough slot engagement. I actually think Processheads solution is a better option than the ratchet as there is a fair amount of back pressure you can not simply raise the handle to ratchet back. you have to grab the shaft and hold it to prevent it from rotating backwards. Granted this is still faster than taking the handle off and then refitting it, it is less of an advantage than his double ended handle would be in my opinion.

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                        • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

                          Miket482000 You may have tried an inverted Torx bit, they are different from 8 point sockets. 8 point sockets are actually made for square nuts.

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                          Team Orange
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                          johnsbrewhouse Is there a torx socket? that is what would be necessary. I also don’t recall torx having the same number of splines as the handle shaft has. An 8 point socket fits well just does not go into the spline slots deep enough to hold.

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                          • Miket482000M Miket482000

                            johnsbrewhouse Is there a torx socket? that is what would be necessary. I also don’t recall torx having the same number of splines as the handle shaft has. An 8 point socket fits well just does not go into the spline slots deep enough to hold.

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                            Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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                            Miket482000 while not common, there are deep 8 point sockets available.

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                              #16

                              ive thought of this too. i am able to clamp the crank side of mine so on the up stroke it doesnt lift the stuffer which works fine but i totally see your point.

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                                shoprat53
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                                Before I bought A new stuffer from Walton’s I used A 16 mm 12 point socket 1/2 drive instead of my handle and it worked well. With the Walton’s stuffer I have found that the handle works well. My old stuffer was A garage sale special that the ratchet worked well with to give me more control of the speed.

                                Donald glass

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                                  maybe now that Walton’s are selling their own equipment they can design something that the masses are wanting !

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                                  • craigriceC craigrice

                                    maybe now that Walton’s are selling their own equipment they can design something that the masses are wanting !

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                                    IVERYAN
                                    Regular Contributors Veteran Bowl Choppers Team Orange
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                                    I love the idea of the 1/2" drive. So then then you could run your stuffer with one of these. 🙂Screenshot_20210426-080454_Chrome.jpg

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                                      Miket482000 while not common, there are deep 8 point sockets available.

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                                      Team Orange
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                                      Chef just did a search and did not see any if you have a source let me know.

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                                      • Miket482000M Miket482000

                                        Chef just did a search and did not see any if you have a source let me know.

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                                        johnsbrewhouse
                                        Team Blue Regular Contributors Traeger Power User Veteran Sous Vide Canning
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                                        #21

                                        Miket482000 homedepot.com/p/Sunex-Tools-1-2-in-Drive-Sae-Deep-8-Point-Impact-Socket-Set-13-Piece-SUN2858/301205787

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                                        • O opah73

                                          ive thought of this too. i am able to clamp the crank side of mine so on the up stroke it doesnt lift the stuffer which works fine but i totally see your point.

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                                          Team Orange
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                                          opah73 It is not just the lifting it is also more difficult to operate on the up stroke of the crank. Many times I am operating by my self and it is a pain, but when I have a helper they are not always even able to turn it in that fission. So my objective is to just make it easier to operate for me or a child or someone that just is not as capable.

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