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Another Rookie Question on Smoked Sausage

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    unclelar1
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    Yes, it is cooked before eating.
    Simmered in kraut w/ potatoes, or with pierogies.
    Or grilled.

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      Yes, it is cooked before eating.
      Simmered in kraut w/ potatoes, or with pierogies.
      Or grilled.

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      mikesr
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      unclelar1 - Thanks. Are you able to freeze/thaw/cook and get the same results? Do you use cure? Natural casings?

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        MT Elk Hunter - I’m using natural hog casings.

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        MT Elk Hunter
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        mikesr how many hours does it take to reach your desired internal temp? Are you running of water and experiencing a stall?

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          mikesr how many hours does it take to reach your desired internal temp? Are you running of water and experiencing a stall?

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          mikesr
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          MT Elk Hunter - Starting from refrigerator temp, I’d say 4 - 5 hours.

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            mikesr how many hours does it take to reach your desired internal temp? Are you running of water and experiencing a stall?

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            mikesr
            Yearling
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            MT Elk Hunter - Not running out of water, and I don’t think I’m experiencing a stall such as I have with a pork shoulder or brisket. Thanks Elk Hunter.

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              unclelar1 - Thanks. Are you able to freeze/thaw/cook and get the same results? Do you use cure? Natural casings?

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              mikesr Yes , I vacuum seal and feeze.
              It always taste better fresh but you dont lose much in the freezer, especially with the vac seal.I use all natural hog casing. and I use the proper ratio of pink cure on all my smoked sausage and jerky
              my kielbasa is the only smoked sausage I smoke at a lower temp.
              my sticks and salami etc. I always smoke til proper internal of finish in my slow cook oven till proper temp.

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                mikesr Yes , I vacuum seal and feeze.
                It always taste better fresh but you dont lose much in the freezer, especially with the vac seal.I use all natural hog casing. and I use the proper ratio of pink cure on all my smoked sausage and jerky
                my kielbasa is the only smoked sausage I smoke at a lower temp.
                my sticks and salami etc. I always smoke til proper internal of finish in my slow cook oven till proper temp.

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                mikesr
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                unclelar1 - Thanks Unclelar1. I may give that a try. Your process is very different from anything I’ve tried. I’d love to get rid of that tough casing.

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                  mikesr I never smoke my sausage that hot.
                  Because I always cook it some way before I eat it.
                  I make allot of kielbasa, and I hang overnight in cooler. Then smoke for 10 hrs and never let smoker get over 125* I start slow and it usually takes about 2 hrs to get to my maintain temp.
                  Rarely is casings tougher than a light snap.
                  Once in a while I get tough casing but attribute it to bad casings

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                  unclelar1 That is how I do a smoked sausage when I do large barbecues. I fully cook it prior to serving. Always a very light snap at best. Very tender.

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                    unclelar1 That is how I do a smoked sausage when I do large barbecues. I fully cook it prior to serving. Always a very light snap at best. Very tender.

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                    mikesr
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                    Chef - Thanks. I will try it.

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                      I posted a while back about tough natural skins on smoked sausage. Thank you for your much needed advice that I have put into practice. I purchased an Auber temperature controller (a great product) to more precisely control temperature and employed Jonathan’s smoke schedule:
                      125 - 1 hour
                      140 - 1hour
                      155 - 1 hour
                      175 to 160 degrees internal
                      The sausage has a fantastic flavor, but skins are still leathery to the point of being unchewable. I pretty much follow the procedures shown in the Meatgistics recipes and videos. I rinse and soak the fresh casings overnight before stuffing. I humidify the smoker cabinet with a water pan. This last batch, I soaked them in an ice bath after they reached the proper internal temperature. That helped a little, but not nearly enough. The skins are still inedible. FYI, we do enjoy a snap, but these don’t snap, they tear. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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                      Riley Renwick
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                      mikesr Try holding your sausage overnight in a tub of Tupperware with a lid in a room that is slightly chilled. The condensation from the residual heat off the sausage will soften the skins.

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                        mikesr Try holding your sausage overnight in a tub of Tupperware with a lid in a room that is slightly chilled. The condensation from the residual heat off the sausage will soften the skins.

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                        Riley Renwick - Thanks Riley. Is that pre or post-smoking?

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                          Would collagen casings produce a more tender bite out of the smoker?

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                            Post smoking

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                              Would collagen casings produce a more tender bite out of the smoker?

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                              mikesr Natural casings have a better snap when bitten.

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                                MT Elk Hunter So I agree but I have documentation from Devro that says otherwise, which is a great example of how anyone can make any study say anything they want! Im guessing humidity is your major issue, usually, when I have a tougher casing something went wrong with humidity in the smoker. If you haven’t already check out this post https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/1099/cured-sausage-205-advanced-thermal-processing

                                Recently I have found that using a shammy type material works even better, it takes up a little more space but it was able to completely empty an oversized water bowl in the PK in just a few hours.

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                                  MT Elk Hunter So I agree but I have documentation from Devro that says otherwise, which is a great example of how anyone can make any study say anything they want! Im guessing humidity is your major issue, usually, when I have a tougher casing something went wrong with humidity in the smoker. If you haven’t already check out this post https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/1099/cured-sausage-205-advanced-thermal-processing

                                  Recently I have found that using a shammy type material works even better, it takes up a little more space but it was able to completely empty an oversized water bowl in the PK in just a few hours.

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                                  Yearling
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                                  Jonathon - Thank you for that info. I do use a water pan, but at the prolonged cook times below 150, I don’t know that it gives off that much moisture. I’ll check it out.

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                                    I never thermal process sticks while smoking them. I smoke below 150F until they have the color I like-nice deep cherry color using the smoked collagen 19mm casings.
                                    Then into water bath to cook to 155F then shower with cold water. I don’t get dry sticks, I don’t get dry chewy skins. Been doing it tho way for decades.

                                    John C.

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                                      mikesr
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                                      Thanks Parksider. I’ll give it a try. I’m about to place an order with Walton’s. I’ll give the collagen casings and process a try.

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