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Another Rookie Question on Smoked Sausage

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  • U unclelar1

    mikesr I never smoke my sausage that hot.
    Because I always cook it some way before I eat it.
    I make allot of kielbasa, and I hang overnight in cooler. Then smoke for 10 hrs and never let smoker get over 125* I start slow and it usually takes about 2 hrs to get to my maintain temp.
    Rarely is casings tougher than a light snap.
    Once in a while I get tough casing but attribute it to bad casings

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    unclelar1 That is how I do a smoked sausage when I do large barbecues. I fully cook it prior to serving. Always a very light snap at best. Very tender.

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      unclelar1 That is how I do a smoked sausage when I do large barbecues. I fully cook it prior to serving. Always a very light snap at best. Very tender.

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      mikesr
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      Chef - Thanks. I will try it.

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        I posted a while back about tough natural skins on smoked sausage. Thank you for your much needed advice that I have put into practice. I purchased an Auber temperature controller (a great product) to more precisely control temperature and employed Jonathan’s smoke schedule:
        125 - 1 hour
        140 - 1hour
        155 - 1 hour
        175 to 160 degrees internal
        The sausage has a fantastic flavor, but skins are still leathery to the point of being unchewable. I pretty much follow the procedures shown in the Meatgistics recipes and videos. I rinse and soak the fresh casings overnight before stuffing. I humidify the smoker cabinet with a water pan. This last batch, I soaked them in an ice bath after they reached the proper internal temperature. That helped a little, but not nearly enough. The skins are still inedible. FYI, we do enjoy a snap, but these don’t snap, they tear. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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        mikesr Try holding your sausage overnight in a tub of Tupperware with a lid in a room that is slightly chilled. The condensation from the residual heat off the sausage will soften the skins.

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          mikesr Try holding your sausage overnight in a tub of Tupperware with a lid in a room that is slightly chilled. The condensation from the residual heat off the sausage will soften the skins.

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          Riley Renwick - Thanks Riley. Is that pre or post-smoking?

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            Would collagen casings produce a more tender bite out of the smoker?

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              Post smoking

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              • M mikesr

                Would collagen casings produce a more tender bite out of the smoker?

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                mikesr Natural casings have a better snap when bitten.

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                  MT Elk Hunter So I agree but I have documentation from Devro that says otherwise, which is a great example of how anyone can make any study say anything they want! Im guessing humidity is your major issue, usually, when I have a tougher casing something went wrong with humidity in the smoker. If you haven’t already check out this post https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/1099/cured-sausage-205-advanced-thermal-processing

                  Recently I have found that using a shammy type material works even better, it takes up a little more space but it was able to completely empty an oversized water bowl in the PK in just a few hours.

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                    MT Elk Hunter So I agree but I have documentation from Devro that says otherwise, which is a great example of how anyone can make any study say anything they want! Im guessing humidity is your major issue, usually, when I have a tougher casing something went wrong with humidity in the smoker. If you haven’t already check out this post https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/1099/cured-sausage-205-advanced-thermal-processing

                    Recently I have found that using a shammy type material works even better, it takes up a little more space but it was able to completely empty an oversized water bowl in the PK in just a few hours.

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                    Jonathon - Thank you for that info. I do use a water pan, but at the prolonged cook times below 150, I don’t know that it gives off that much moisture. I’ll check it out.

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                      I never thermal process sticks while smoking them. I smoke below 150F until they have the color I like-nice deep cherry color using the smoked collagen 19mm casings.
                      Then into water bath to cook to 155F then shower with cold water. I don’t get dry sticks, I don’t get dry chewy skins. Been doing it tho way for decades.

                      John C.

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                        Thanks Parksider. I’ll give it a try. I’m about to place an order with Walton’s. I’ll give the collagen casings and process a try.

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