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I'm tired of my old POS vertical stuffer

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  • D Denny

    twilliams I had no blow by at all. I did spray the inside barrel and the piston seal of the stuffer with food silicon spray before I started stuffing plus I added water to the mix. I used my 20 lb mixer and mixed it probably 5-6 minutes to get the seasoning mixed well. forwards cranking then reversed cranking. It is another thing at clean up but no hot spots of spices. This was my third batch using the new stuffer. I also after clean up spray the seal with food grade silicone spray. You can get your piston seal on backwards. Have you tried flipping the seal over on the piston?

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    Denny piston seal is on correctly. Im gonna order a new seal

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      Brianh do they make a 30 lb with the 11lb diameter? They should if they dont…lol

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      twilliams Sounds like a great product idea for Jonathan , make sure you get your cut!

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        twilliams Not that I’ve seen, you’d need 7’ friend to reach high enough to crank it!!😂 😂

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        Parksider lol

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        • BrianhB Brianh

          I have a 26 lb electric stuffer and sticks on it was a miserable failure. The meat would continually blow around the seal and make a mess. In my opinion, the larger diameter cylinder\piston creates way too much force when trying to press 19mm sticks. I went to a manual 11 lb stuffer and have had zero issues. An added benefit is that my 11lb leaves less than 1 pound of meat at the end. The 26 lb left over 2 lbs at the bottom. While I enjoy that pattied up left over meat on the grill, I prefer it in stick form!

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          Brianh I was amazed how little had left over. after cleaning the elbow and stuffing tube I made 5 pattys to fry up.

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          • BrianhB Brianh

            twilliams Sounds like a great product idea for Jonathan , make sure you get your cut!

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            Brianh heck yes, i have already put plenty of thought into designing one. I just dont have capabilities of manufacturing it

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              Denny piston seal is on correctly. Im gonna order a new seal

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              twilliams try the food grade silicon. It is pricey but will last quite awhile .

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                Brianh heck yes, i have already put plenty of thought into designing one. I just dont have capabilities of manufacturing it

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                twilliams I need to get pictures of the one we built at work years ago. It was strictly for summer sausage but you could load 50+ lbs of meat at a time! It was truly a junk yard dog but works well. Just a big clean up job. We had a bunch of guys get together and do about 1000 lbs of summer sausage on a Saturday back then.

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                • Derek_DD Derek_D

                  Denny I was going to go with the electric stuffer but Jonathon suggested in his video not to use it for snack sticks. That turned me off to that idea.

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                  Derek_D I have not used mine on snack sticks yet. I have 9 grand kiddys and they are like a whirl wind eating them up. I will post when I make a batch.

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                    ggillis If you put some saran wrap between the piston and meat, that can help but I think it’s just a quality issue. We’ve been through a bunch of stuffer, I’m a fan of the 11#vertical. I think the small long cylinder holds up to the pressure better that the short wide ones, like an old enterprise. But the enterprise gears held up to the pressure of cured meat and never had a failure. Get a Weston from Walton’s that is easy to source parts and has great customer service. We finally made the move to the SF 260-low end commercial hydraulic stuffer. Paid $800 but had to get some new gaskets and so on, but well worth the investment at our volume.

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                    Parksider I agree with you the 11lb stuffer is the way to go. We have a 15lb lem stuffer with the o-ring seal and meat always leaks past the seal…I bought a 11lb lem with the tapered seal (if that’s what it’s called) and I never have meat leak past the seal even when I do snack sticks

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                    • blackbetty61B blackbetty61

                      Parksider I agree with you the 11lb stuffer is the way to go. We have a 15lb lem stuffer with the o-ring seal and meat always leaks past the seal…I bought a 11lb lem with the tapered seal (if that’s what it’s called) and I never have meat leak past the seal even when I do snack sticks

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                      blackbetty61 Parksider Brianh its just a bummer making a 25lb batch and having to fill it 3 different times

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                        blackbetty61 Parksider Brianh its just a bummer making a 25lb batch and having to fill it 3 different times

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                        twilliams I thought along those same lines when I ordered the 11lb. However, with the tilt cylinder and much easier clean-up it’s not bad at all in my opinion. I have started using it (11lb) for summer sausage even though my big electric would work. The bigger cylinder is simply a pain to clean-up compared to the 11 lb cylinder that drops in the sink. All this being said, it sounds like you may make a lot more product than I do in a year’s time.

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                        • BrianhB Brianh

                          I have a 26 lb electric stuffer and sticks on it was a miserable failure. The meat would continually blow around the seal and make a mess. In my opinion, the larger diameter cylinder\piston creates way too much force when trying to press 19mm sticks. I went to a manual 11 lb stuffer and have had zero issues. An added benefit is that my 11lb leaves less than 1 pound of meat at the end. The 26 lb left over 2 lbs at the bottom. While I enjoy that pattied up left over meat on the grill, I prefer it in stick form!

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                          Brianh My 27 lb stuffer will not do snack sticks very well too, I kept my small 5 lb stuffer and it works well with the sticks, have to fill it more but a small price to pay for no aggervation.

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                            If you are having a problem with your stuffer gasket leaking and air problems I just rebuilt my stuffer plate, I got our local hydraulic shop in town to measure my cylinder diameter to figure out the right size food grade O-ring and then had our local machine shop cut the correct grove for the O-ring to fit and I also had them machine a hole in the stuffer plate to install an F Dick Air bleader to eliminate excess air. Just did 50 lb snack sticks and not a sign of blow by, what a difference from my old gasket set up.

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                              For got to add that now using a 1/2" ratchet handle instead of crank, much easier to constantly pull in one direction

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                                I just rebuilt my stuffer plate on my stuffer and what a world of difference, Absolutely no blow by, I had our local hydraulic shop measure my stuffer cylinder and get me a food grade O-ring that fit the cylinder. I then had our local machine adapt my old stuffer plate to use the new O ring. I also bought a F Dick Stuffer air blender assembly ($14.00)and had them drill and modify the stuffer plate for it. What a difference, 50 lb snack sticks and not a trace of blow by. I also now use a 1/2" ratchet handle and socket instead of the original crank as it is much easier to pull in one direction and get more leverage when doing the small snack sticks.
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                                  I just rebuilt my stuffer plate on my stuffer and what a world of difference, Absolutely no blow by, I had our local hydraulic shop measure my stuffer cylinder and get me a food grade O-ring that fit the cylinder. I then had our local machine adapt my old stuffer plate to use the new O ring. I also bought a F Dick Stuffer air blender assembly ($14.00)and had them drill and modify the stuffer plate for it. What a difference, 50 lb snack sticks and not a trace of blow by. I also now use a 1/2" ratchet handle and socket instead of the original crank as it is much easier to pull in one direction and get more leverage when doing the small snack sticks.
                                  DaveIMG_3429.JPG IMG_3469.JPG

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                                  akdave
                                  That’s really cool and very innovative. You’re a true meathead…👍
                                  What was your stick of choice?
                                  BTW it looks like a pretty incredible view out your window.

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                                    Pretty sweet modification I would say.

                                    Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                                      Having a tool and die maker for a father helps a lot, he made everything. As far as favorite snack stick have only done 6 each 12.5 different batches and have been doing blind taste tests with friends on the last 4 batches to try and get it nailed down, but I think my personal favorite is pepper snack or pepper snack with cheddar cheese, although Hot Italian were pretty good also. The great thing is I have not had anything but they are way better than store bought.

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                                        If you are having a problem with your stuffer gasket leaking and air problems I just rebuilt my stuffer plate, I got our local hydraulic shop in town to measure my cylinder diameter to figure out the right size food grade O-ring and then had our local machine shop cut the correct grove for the O-ring to fit and I also had them machine a hole in the stuffer plate to install an F Dick Air bleader to eliminate excess air. Just did 50 lb snack sticks and not a sign of blow by, what a difference from my old gasket set up.

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                                        akdave Thanks for the info, that looks like a great set up. Its nice to have a site where meat heads, and I don’t mean my son in law, lol can share ideas.

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                                          I attribute most of my recent successes in making sausage and snack sticks to what I have learned from this group. Remember The School Of Hard Knocks is Only Successful if YOU SURVIVE!!!

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