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I'm tired of my old POS vertical stuffer

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  • G ggillis

    Hey guys,

    I’m still fairly new to the game and when I first started making sausage I opted for a off brand 7lb vertical stuff that has given me nothing but headaches. Even when using the largest tube (not summer sausage size) I still get gasket blowout and skipping gears. Almost impossible to turn. I chill the meat and stuffer in the freezer. Do you think it’s used error or should I up my game to a better stuffer? Any help would be appreciated.

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    craigrice
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    ggillis having the correct amt. of water will help with stuffing also don’t try to go to fast you are creating pressure when you force the meat through the smaller output from the larger tube crank it a little and let the volume of the mix catchup to the output

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    • G ggillis

      Hey guys,

      I’m still fairly new to the game and when I first started making sausage I opted for a off brand 7lb vertical stuff that has given me nothing but headaches. Even when using the largest tube (not summer sausage size) I still get gasket blowout and skipping gears. Almost impossible to turn. I chill the meat and stuffer in the freezer. Do you think it’s used error or should I up my game to a better stuffer? Any help would be appreciated.

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      twilliams
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      ggillis having the same issue, i think i have a weak spot on my seal.

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      • twilliamsT twilliams

        ggillis having the same issue, i think i have a weak spot on my seal.

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        I also have a off brand stuffer, the weak spot of it was the cheap plastic piston would deform and blow out the gasket, made up a nice thick aluminum piston and solved the gasket blow out problem!

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        • G ggillis

          Hey guys,

          I’m still fairly new to the game and when I first started making sausage I opted for a off brand 7lb vertical stuff that has given me nothing but headaches. Even when using the largest tube (not summer sausage size) I still get gasket blowout and skipping gears. Almost impossible to turn. I chill the meat and stuffer in the freezer. Do you think it’s used error or should I up my game to a better stuffer? Any help would be appreciated.

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          ggillis You must have bought a VIVO sausage stuffer too? They discontinued a poor design but for some reason want to still sell all of their bad product to tarnish their brand. They will send you a free replacement but who wants a junk pile replaced with another junk pile?

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          • twilliamsT twilliams

            ggillis having the same issue, i think i have a weak spot on my seal.

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            twilliams I have made the dumb mistake of putting my seal on the wrong way. It does make a big difference. Not saying that you are as dumb as me but some manufacturers don’t make it clear which way the seal goes on the piston.

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              ggillis If you put some saran wrap between the piston and meat, that can help but I think it’s just a quality issue. We’ve been through a bunch of stuffer, I’m a fan of the 11#vertical. I think the small long cylinder holds up to the pressure better that the short wide ones, like an old enterprise. But the enterprise gears held up to the pressure of cured meat and never had a failure. Get a Weston from Walton’s that is easy to source parts and has great customer service. We finally made the move to the SF 260-low end commercial hydraulic stuffer. Paid $800 but had to get some new gaskets and so on, but well worth the investment at our volume.

              John C.

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                ggillis If you put some saran wrap between the piston and meat, that can help but I think it’s just a quality issue. We’ve been through a bunch of stuffer, I’m a fan of the 11#vertical. I think the small long cylinder holds up to the pressure better that the short wide ones, like an old enterprise. But the enterprise gears held up to the pressure of cured meat and never had a failure. Get a Weston from Walton’s that is easy to source parts and has great customer service. We finally made the move to the SF 260-low end commercial hydraulic stuffer. Paid $800 but had to get some new gaskets and so on, but well worth the investment at our volume.

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                Parksider i would like a water stuffer as if there is a concern of it leaking past the seal. I would rather have water leak into the meat than hydraulic fluid. Or is there not a possibility of that? Im not familiar with the hydraulic ones

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                  I was right there with you on this issue. I moved up to a electric stuffer. Wow what a difference of loading once, 22 lbs . cut the time down to minutes.

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                  • D Denny

                    I was right there with you on this issue. I moved up to a electric stuffer. Wow what a difference of loading once, 22 lbs . cut the time down to minutes.

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                    Denny so how does that work with not creating too much pressure and blowing past the seal?

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                    • D Denny

                      I was right there with you on this issue. I moved up to a electric stuffer. Wow what a difference of loading once, 22 lbs . cut the time down to minutes.

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                      Denny I was going to go with the electric stuffer but Jonathon suggested in his video not to use it for snack sticks. That turned me off to that idea.

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                        I have a 26 lb electric stuffer and sticks on it was a miserable failure. The meat would continually blow around the seal and make a mess. In my opinion, the larger diameter cylinder\piston creates way too much force when trying to press 19mm sticks. I went to a manual 11 lb stuffer and have had zero issues. An added benefit is that my 11lb leaves less than 1 pound of meat at the end. The 26 lb left over 2 lbs at the bottom. While I enjoy that pattied up left over meat on the grill, I prefer it in stick form!

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                          twilliams Denny There is no risk, well…virtually no risk of hydraulic fluid getting into the meat. There would have to be something beyond epic failure to get into it. The electric pump pushes a ram up from the bottom of the cylinder and out the horn. Check them out on you tube and then…check out vacuum stuffer…there are no words…

                          John C.

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                          • twilliamsT twilliams

                            Denny so how does that work with not creating too much pressure and blowing past the seal?

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                            twilliams I had no blow by at all. I did spray the inside barrel and the piston seal of the stuffer with food silicon spray before I started stuffing plus I added water to the mix. I used my 20 lb mixer and mixed it probably 5-6 minutes to get the seasoning mixed well. forwards cranking then reversed cranking. It is another thing at clean up but no hot spots of spices. This was my third batch using the new stuffer. I also after clean up spray the seal with food grade silicone spray. You can get your piston seal on backwards. Have you tried flipping the seal over on the piston?

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                              I have a 26 lb electric stuffer and sticks on it was a miserable failure. The meat would continually blow around the seal and make a mess. In my opinion, the larger diameter cylinder\piston creates way too much force when trying to press 19mm sticks. I went to a manual 11 lb stuffer and have had zero issues. An added benefit is that my 11lb leaves less than 1 pound of meat at the end. The 26 lb left over 2 lbs at the bottom. While I enjoy that pattied up left over meat on the grill, I prefer it in stick form!

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                              Brianh do they make a 30 lb with the 11lb diameter? They should if they dont…lol

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                                twilliams Not that I’ve seen, you’d need 7’ friend to reach high enough to crank it!!😂 😂

                                John C.

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                                  twilliams I had no blow by at all. I did spray the inside barrel and the piston seal of the stuffer with food silicon spray before I started stuffing plus I added water to the mix. I used my 20 lb mixer and mixed it probably 5-6 minutes to get the seasoning mixed well. forwards cranking then reversed cranking. It is another thing at clean up but no hot spots of spices. This was my third batch using the new stuffer. I also after clean up spray the seal with food grade silicone spray. You can get your piston seal on backwards. Have you tried flipping the seal over on the piston?

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                                  Denny piston seal is on correctly. Im gonna order a new seal

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                                    Brianh do they make a 30 lb with the 11lb diameter? They should if they dont…lol

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                                    twilliams Sounds like a great product idea for Jonathan , make sure you get your cut!

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                                      twilliams Not that I’ve seen, you’d need 7’ friend to reach high enough to crank it!!😂 😂

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                                      Parksider lol

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                                      • BrianhB Brianh

                                        I have a 26 lb electric stuffer and sticks on it was a miserable failure. The meat would continually blow around the seal and make a mess. In my opinion, the larger diameter cylinder\piston creates way too much force when trying to press 19mm sticks. I went to a manual 11 lb stuffer and have had zero issues. An added benefit is that my 11lb leaves less than 1 pound of meat at the end. The 26 lb left over 2 lbs at the bottom. While I enjoy that pattied up left over meat on the grill, I prefer it in stick form!

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                                        Brianh I was amazed how little had left over. after cleaning the elbow and stuffing tube I made 5 pattys to fry up.

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                                        • BrianhB Brianh

                                          twilliams Sounds like a great product idea for Jonathan , make sure you get your cut!

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                                          Brianh heck yes, i have already put plenty of thought into designing one. I just dont have capabilities of manufacturing it

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