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Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?

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  • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

    ND Mike said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

    Dr_Pain I was thinking of maybe cutting the meatblock to 20 lbs instead then adding sure cure.

    So if my math is correct we are talking about adding 20% more seasoning to snack sticks then fresh brats??

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    Dr_Pain I thinks so. Math is not my strong suite though.

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    • ND MikeN ND Mike

      Dr_Pain I thinks so. Math is not my strong suite though.

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      ND Mike said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

      Dr_Pain I thinks so. Math is not my strong suite though.

      LOL!!! You are good bro. It will have to be an experiment on my end to get the taste just right but having a starting point will help

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      • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

        ND Mike said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

        Dr_Pain I thinks so. Math is not my strong suite though.

        LOL!!! You are good bro. It will have to be an experiment on my end to get the taste just right but having a starting point will help

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        Dr_Pain I think if I remember right Jonathon said if you wanted to use a fresh sausage seasoning to make sticks or cured sausage and say the block was 25 lbs to cut it back to around 20 lbs. Hopefully he chimes in.

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          Dr_Pain They can all be a little different, for the |Supreme-Pizza-Bratwurst-Seasoning I would add 15-20% more seasoning per pound, for the hatch I would add about 25% more per lb. It all comes down to salt content though. So, my best recommendation is do half your meat block and then cook up a small amount of the meat. That way you still have half the meat to make it stronger or milder. IN general ND Mike is correct, if you are taking a fresh sausage and making a cured sausage then reducing the meat block from 25 to 20 is usually a good ratio.

          For the Pizza Flavored Frank and Weiner just use it at its natural amount, it is designed to be cured so it will have the correct amount of salt.

          kyle if you are making it fresh then I would recommend just adding it as a topping. If you are making a snack stick or something the acidity from the tomato sauce is going to cause problems with your protein binding. I don’t know how you would get around that. Maybe add some extra binder, or something to raise the pH a little?

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          • JonathonJ Jonathon

            Dr_Pain They can all be a little different, for the |Supreme-Pizza-Bratwurst-Seasoning I would add 15-20% more seasoning per pound, for the hatch I would add about 25% more per lb. It all comes down to salt content though. So, my best recommendation is do half your meat block and then cook up a small amount of the meat. That way you still have half the meat to make it stronger or milder. IN general ND Mike is correct, if you are taking a fresh sausage and making a cured sausage then reducing the meat block from 25 to 20 is usually a good ratio.

            For the Pizza Flavored Frank and Weiner just use it at its natural amount, it is designed to be cured so it will have the correct amount of salt.

            kyle if you are making it fresh then I would recommend just adding it as a topping. If you are making a snack stick or something the acidity from the tomato sauce is going to cause problems with your protein binding. I don’t know how you would get around that. Maybe add some extra binder, or something to raise the pH a little?

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            Jonathon thanks for answering!

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            • JonathonJ Jonathon

              Dr_Pain They can all be a little different, for the |Supreme-Pizza-Bratwurst-Seasoning I would add 15-20% more seasoning per pound, for the hatch I would add about 25% more per lb. It all comes down to salt content though. So, my best recommendation is do half your meat block and then cook up a small amount of the meat. That way you still have half the meat to make it stronger or milder. IN general ND Mike is correct, if you are taking a fresh sausage and making a cured sausage then reducing the meat block from 25 to 20 is usually a good ratio.

              For the Pizza Flavored Frank and Weiner just use it at its natural amount, it is designed to be cured so it will have the correct amount of salt.

              kyle if you are making it fresh then I would recommend just adding it as a topping. If you are making a snack stick or something the acidity from the tomato sauce is going to cause problems with your protein binding. I don’t know how you would get around that. Maybe add some extra binder, or something to raise the pH a little?

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              Jonathon You don’t need to add tomato sauce, you can add tomato powder and eliminate the acidity problem and if you need some acidity for your tomato powder you can add vinegar powder. With the powders, you generally don’t have the problems with protein binding since they are dry products and by the time they hydrate you should have completed the protein binding process.

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              • JonathonJ Jonathon

                Dr_Pain They can all be a little different, for the |Supreme-Pizza-Bratwurst-Seasoning I would add 15-20% more seasoning per pound, for the hatch I would add about 25% more per lb. It all comes down to salt content though. So, my best recommendation is do half your meat block and then cook up a small amount of the meat. That way you still have half the meat to make it stronger or milder. IN general ND Mike is correct, if you are taking a fresh sausage and making a cured sausage then reducing the meat block from 25 to 20 is usually a good ratio.

                For the Pizza Flavored Frank and Weiner just use it at its natural amount, it is designed to be cured so it will have the correct amount of salt.

                kyle if you are making it fresh then I would recommend just adding it as a topping. If you are making a snack stick or something the acidity from the tomato sauce is going to cause problems with your protein binding. I don’t know how you would get around that. Maybe add some extra binder, or something to raise the pH a little?

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                Jonathon when I made buffalo blue cheese sticks, I replaced the water with Frank’s red hot sauce and didnt seem to have a issue. I used soy protein for a binder. Maybe just got lucky

                hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                  johnsbrewhouse So, I don’t think I am this way with many things but I am an absolute snob with Spaghetti Sauce. I feel like sausage and snack sticks and all of that I am pretty good at enjoying all types but I have higher standards for a spaghetti sauce and tomato powder isn’t allowed near my sauces! I think it was because my grandma, father and Mother all made extremely good red sauces so the first time I had Ragu, i was like…what is this? This isn’t a real red sauce!

                  kyle I’ve tried Franks powdered before, sort of like what John is talking about above and not had issues. But, I did have issues with the sauce. Wonder what the difference was. I am sure I used |Sure-Gel-Meat-Binder instead of |Soy-Protein-Blend

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                  • JonathonJ Jonathon

                    johnsbrewhouse So, I don’t think I am this way with many things but I am an absolute snob with Spaghetti Sauce. I feel like sausage and snack sticks and all of that I am pretty good at enjoying all types but I have higher standards for a spaghetti sauce and tomato powder isn’t allowed near my sauces! I think it was because my grandma, father and Mother all made extremely good red sauces so the first time I had Ragu, i was like…what is this? This isn’t a real red sauce!

                    kyle I’ve tried Franks powdered before, sort of like what John is talking about above and not had issues. But, I did have issues with the sauce. Wonder what the difference was. I am sure I used |Sure-Gel-Meat-Binder instead of |Soy-Protein-Blend

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                    Jonathon said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

                    I think it was because my grandma, father and Mother all made extremely good red sauces so the first time I had Ragu, i was like…what is this? This isn’t a real red sauce!

                    I never had store bought milk till I was 13 years old. We lived on a farm and my dad drove truck picking up milk from dairy farms. I love milk and drink a lot. After my parents separated and we moved into town, I had my first store bought milk. It was like drinking water. I remember being so upset that I was going to have to drink this from now on. Well, I have gotten used to store milk over the last 35 years and I drink 2-3 gallons a week of it. Your Ragu is my milk.

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                    • JonathonJ Jonathon

                      johnsbrewhouse So, I don’t think I am this way with many things but I am an absolute snob with Spaghetti Sauce. I feel like sausage and snack sticks and all of that I am pretty good at enjoying all types but I have higher standards for a spaghetti sauce and tomato powder isn’t allowed near my sauces! I think it was because my grandma, father and Mother all made extremely good red sauces so the first time I had Ragu, i was like…what is this? This isn’t a real red sauce!

                      kyle I’ve tried Franks powdered before, sort of like what John is talking about above and not had issues. But, I did have issues with the sauce. Wonder what the difference was. I am sure I used |Sure-Gel-Meat-Binder instead of |Soy-Protein-Blend

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                      Jonathon I make my own spaghetti sauce, gave a quart to a niece and now she won’t buy sauce, I have to haul 6-8 quarts twice a year when we go to MN.

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                      • JonathonJ Jonathon

                        Dr_Pain They can all be a little different, for the |Supreme-Pizza-Bratwurst-Seasoning I would add 15-20% more seasoning per pound, for the hatch I would add about 25% more per lb. It all comes down to salt content though. So, my best recommendation is do half your meat block and then cook up a small amount of the meat. That way you still have half the meat to make it stronger or milder. IN general ND Mike is correct, if you are taking a fresh sausage and making a cured sausage then reducing the meat block from 25 to 20 is usually a good ratio.

                        For the Pizza Flavored Frank and Weiner just use it at its natural amount, it is designed to be cured so it will have the correct amount of salt.

                        kyle if you are making it fresh then I would recommend just adding it as a topping. If you are making a snack stick or something the acidity from the tomato sauce is going to cause problems with your protein binding. I don’t know how you would get around that. Maybe add some extra binder, or something to raise the pH a little?

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                        Jonathon Ever since you talked about the Supreme pizza Brat seasoning in a snack stick, I’ve been wanting to try them. Did up 3# test batch today using all beef with
                        high temp mozzarella cheese. Not are they tasty. You can sure taste the pizza. Went with an additional heavy 20%
                        Seasoning. Thanks for sharing this.PXL_20220211_150502070.jpg PXL_20220211_235333893.jpg

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                        • wdalyW wdaly

                          Jonathon Ever since you talked about the Supreme pizza Brat seasoning in a snack stick, I’ve been wanting to try them. Did up 3# test batch today using all beef with
                          high temp mozzarella cheese. Not are they tasty. You can sure taste the pizza. Went with an additional heavy 20%
                          Seasoning. Thanks for sharing this.PXL_20220211_150502070.jpg PXL_20220211_235333893.jpg

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                          wdaly good looking sticks. 👌

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                            I need some of those sticks in my life

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                            • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                              I need some of those sticks in my life

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                              Dr_Pain said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

                              I need some of those sticks in my life

                              Oh the jokes that could be joked, but this is a family place!

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                              • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

                                Dr_Pain said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

                                I need some of those sticks in my life

                                Oh the jokes that could be joked, but this is a family place!

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                                HerbcoFood said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

                                Dr_Pain said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

                                I need some of those sticks in my life

                                Oh the jokes that could be joked, but this is a family place!

                                Oh lawd, got caught with my pants down! Should have been more careful with my words 😉

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                                • wdalyW wdaly

                                  Jonathon Ever since you talked about the Supreme pizza Brat seasoning in a snack stick, I’ve been wanting to try them. Did up 3# test batch today using all beef with
                                  high temp mozzarella cheese. Not are they tasty. You can sure taste the pizza. Went with an additional heavy 20%
                                  Seasoning. Thanks for sharing this.PXL_20220211_150502070.jpg PXL_20220211_235333893.jpg

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                                  wdaly said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank weiner seasoning?:

                                  Not are they tasty.
                                  Does this mean you didnt find them tasty or was it supposed to be Now are they tasty?

                                  Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                                  • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                    wdaly said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank weiner seasoning?:

                                    Not are they tasty.
                                    Does this mean you didnt find them tasty or was it supposed to be Now are they tasty?

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                                    Jonathon fat fingered again. “Man are they tasty!”

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                                      Made Penne pasta tonight sauced with the Supreme Italian Pizza Sausage I made a week or so ago and spaghetti sauce. Browned it up and added just a bit more Italian seasoning to the meat, it really turned out great. It makes a mild Italian sausage with a ever so slight hint of bite way off in the background. My wife didn’t notice it and said it was good even though it was 100% pork and no beef. No pics because I was busy serving hungry people wanting to watch a football game rather than help me.

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