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  • Idaho SmokeyI Offline
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    Here is another hack that I came up with when using smaller slicers. I started out with a 7.5 inch table top slicer and then upgraded to a 10 inch slicer, and now have a 12 inch. With the smaller slicers I couldn’t get a long enough carriage slide to cut a full width slice of bacon. I just let the slab of bacon sit out for a while to warm up and then rolled and tied it like a rolled roast. This actually made the 7.5 inch slicer overheat. The 10 inch handled it alright but did get a little warm. I got a heck of a deal on used Hobart 12" and haven’t looked back.

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    • Idaho SmokeyI Idaho Smokey

      Here is another hack that I came up with when using smaller slicers. I started out with a 7.5 inch table top slicer and then upgraded to a 10 inch slicer, and now have a 12 inch. With the smaller slicers I couldn’t get a long enough carriage slide to cut a full width slice of bacon. I just let the slab of bacon sit out for a while to warm up and then rolled and tied it like a rolled roast. This actually made the 7.5 inch slicer overheat. The 10 inch handled it alright but did get a little warm. I got a heck of a deal on used Hobart 12" and haven’t looked back.

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      bocephus
      Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
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      Idaho Smokey I have an 8.7" and a 12", I use the smaller one most of the time but when I need it the 12" is nice to have.

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      • Idaho SmokeyI Idaho Smokey

        Here is another hack that I came up with when using smaller slicers. I started out with a 7.5 inch table top slicer and then upgraded to a 10 inch slicer, and now have a 12 inch. With the smaller slicers I couldn’t get a long enough carriage slide to cut a full width slice of bacon. I just let the slab of bacon sit out for a while to warm up and then rolled and tied it like a rolled roast. This actually made the 7.5 inch slicer overheat. The 10 inch handled it alright but did get a little warm. I got a heck of a deal on used Hobart 12" and haven’t looked back.

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        cdavis
        Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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        Idaho Smokey sir you are a wealth of information. Thank you 😊

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        • J John Belvedere

          To figure out the amount of cure, salt and sugar I use this cure calculator
          http://www.diggingdogfarm.com/page2.html
          You just enter the weight of the meat and the calculator gives you the correct amount of cure needed. I usually buy a whole pork belly (around 11-12 lbs. and I cut it in 1/2. I weigh each piece and then use the calculator. I change the amount of salt on the calculator from 2% to 3% (personal preference) . I also change the amount of sugar from 1% to 3% (again personal preference). When I get the amount of sugar needed I weigh 1/2 of the amount needed and use regular sugar and the remaining 1/2 of the sugar weight I use maple sugar (not maple syrup). Once I have all the ingredients weighed I mix them throughly. I then lightly coat the pork belly with maple syrup and I then evenly apply the cure mixture to both side of the pork belly including the sides. It should be noted that the pork belly I use does not have the skin on. If the pork belly you use has the skin on then I would put the majority of the mixture on the skin side and just lightly coat the skin side as the cure has a hard time penetrating the skin. Once I have coated the pork belly with the cure mixture I apply a heavy dose of coarse black pepper and then another coating of maple syrup to the pork belly. Once the pork belly is fully coated in place it into a large zip lock bag and I then place that bag into another zip lock bag to prevent any leakage if the first bag should leak.
          The bags are then placed into the fridge in a tray for 14 days. Most web sites state 7-10 days but I do it for 14. I flip the bags every 3 days making sure that whatever liquid is in the bag stays around the meat.
          After 14 days I remove the pork belly from the bag and thoroughly rinse off the cure mixture. Once the cure is rinsed off I pat it dry and apply a coat of black pepper. I then place the pork belly on a wire rack in a tray and then I put it back into the fridge over night to dry.
          The next day I start my smoker at 100 degrees and hang my pork belly in the smoker to dry for an hour. After the hour has passed I bump up the temperature to 130 with what ever wood I want to use. I use a mix of apple and hickory. After 2 hours I bump up the temperature to 160 and let the pork belly cook until the internal temperature of the pork belly is 145.
          When the pork belly reaches 145 degrees I remove it from the smoker and place it on a wire rack to cool down at room temperature. Once the pork belly is cool I wrap it in plastic wrap and place it back in the fridge for a day or two to let the smoke do it’s thing. Something of note if the pork belly you used has the skin on it now is the time to remove it. It’s much easier to cut the skin off when the pork belly is warm then it is when cold.
          After it’s been in the fridge for the day or two I slice it up and package it into 1lb. batches.

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          wdaly
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          John Belvedere Thanks for sharing your process. I’ve never tried the maple sugar but will on the next batch. Sounds great.

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          • Ridley AcresR Offline
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            yep , i’m bookmarking this

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            • Idaho SmokeyI Offline
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              #33

              This curing method can be used for regular belly or “Side bacon” made from pork belly, Canadian (also known as back bacon or peameal bacon) made from pork loin, buckboard bacon made from pork butt. I have done all of these over the years. I have heard that it can be used to do bacon from beef and venison. I would think that it could be used to cure corned beef and pastrami. One thing I have found is that when you add additional seasonings like my Black rifle coffee bacon or sweet heat bacon the flavors turn out very subtle. I was on a bacon making forum where people were adding lots of different things to their bacon cures. Things like ground jalapeno’s and salsa’s but weren’t happy with the outcome because it was a subtle flavor addition. I did get an Excel program that was posted on the forum. This is a very handy and printable spread sheet using the Equilibrium Cure method. I don’t know if I can post it here so I will hold off until I get some feed back on this.1 15 20 1.jpg 11 20 19 2.jpg

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              • Idaho SmokeyI Idaho Smokey

                This curing method can be used for regular belly or “Side bacon” made from pork belly, Canadian (also known as back bacon or peameal bacon) made from pork loin, buckboard bacon made from pork butt. I have done all of these over the years. I have heard that it can be used to do bacon from beef and venison. I would think that it could be used to cure corned beef and pastrami. One thing I have found is that when you add additional seasonings like my Black rifle coffee bacon or sweet heat bacon the flavors turn out very subtle. I was on a bacon making forum where people were adding lots of different things to their bacon cures. Things like ground jalapeno’s and salsa’s but weren’t happy with the outcome because it was a subtle flavor addition. I did get an Excel program that was posted on the forum. This is a very handy and printable spread sheet using the Equilibrium Cure method. I don’t know if I can post it here so I will hold off until I get some feed back on this.1 15 20 1.jpg 11 20 19 2.jpg

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                cdavis
                Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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                Idaho Smokey your bacon undefined is beautiful and thanks for the info.

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                  Idaho Smokey That’s downright gorgeous. I would be interested in the spreadsheet if you were able to share. My opinion about things posted online is that everything is generally assumed to be use at your own risk.

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                    samspade
                    Team Orange Masterbuilt Sous Vide Team Blue Power User
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                    I have read about coffee being used as a seasoning. Personally, I can not stand when I get coffee grounds in my coffee cup. How its it used as a seasoning and not have that mouth full of sand feeling?

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                    • samspadeS samspade

                      I have read about coffee being used as a seasoning. Personally, I can not stand when I get coffee grounds in my coffee cup. How its it used as a seasoning and not have that mouth full of sand feeling?

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                      samspade they made a bacon in a class and they made the coffee super strong and then used it in the brine in place of the water. it had a very strong coffee flavor

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                      • Idaho SmokeyI Idaho Smokey

                        This curing method can be used for regular belly or “Side bacon” made from pork belly, Canadian (also known as back bacon or peameal bacon) made from pork loin, buckboard bacon made from pork butt. I have done all of these over the years. I have heard that it can be used to do bacon from beef and venison. I would think that it could be used to cure corned beef and pastrami. One thing I have found is that when you add additional seasonings like my Black rifle coffee bacon or sweet heat bacon the flavors turn out very subtle. I was on a bacon making forum where people were adding lots of different things to their bacon cures. Things like ground jalapeno’s and salsa’s but weren’t happy with the outcome because it was a subtle flavor addition. I did get an Excel program that was posted on the forum. This is a very handy and printable spread sheet using the Equilibrium Cure method. I don’t know if I can post it here so I will hold off until I get some feed back on this.1 15 20 1.jpg 11 20 19 2.jpg

                        Dr_PainD Offline
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                        Dr_Pain
                        Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
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                        #38

                        Idaho Smokey Good lord that is some nice meat!!!

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                        • samspadeS samspade

                          I have read about coffee being used as a seasoning. Personally, I can not stand when I get coffee grounds in my coffee cup. How its it used as a seasoning and not have that mouth full of sand feeling?

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                          #39

                          samspade I use regular ground coffee in my dry brine. When the bacon is fully cured you need to rinse belly off. I do this with all of the bacon I make. That takes care of any left over coffee grounds. I also do a dry rub with coffee. I run the ground coffee through a spice grinder and turn it into a powder.

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                          • Departing ContestantD Departing Contestant

                            samspade they made a bacon in a class and they made the coffee super strong and then used it in the brine in place of the water. it had a very strong coffee flavor

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                            Departing Contestant I am doing a dry brine and not a wet brine. Just think about this. When you make a wet brine you are weighing both the meat and the water and then adding enough salt, sugar, and cure 1 to make up for the addition of the weight of the water. With a dry brine you use a lot less salt, sugar, and cure 1. With a wet brine you have to have to do it in a bucket or something else that is big enough to hold the meat and the water and then find space for it in the refrigerator. With a dry brine you can do the curing in a zip lock or vacuum sealed bag.

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                            • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                              Idaho Smokey Good lord that is some nice meat!!!

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                              Dr_Pain This bacon was cold smoked for 24 hours over 3 days. I use a large smoke tube in my smoker and it will run just under 8 hours. I start it in the morning and let the bacon hang out in the smoker all day. I put it in a zip lock and refrigerate it over night and then start again in the morning. Just a hint, Do not put smoked bacon in the refrigerator without it being sealed in something. Don’t ask me how I know that everything in the whole refrigerator will taste and smell like it has been smoked. That includes the ice cream in the freezer.

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                              • Idaho SmokeyI Idaho Smokey

                                Dr_Pain This bacon was cold smoked for 24 hours over 3 days. I use a large smoke tube in my smoker and it will run just under 8 hours. I start it in the morning and let the bacon hang out in the smoker all day. I put it in a zip lock and refrigerate it over night and then start again in the morning. Just a hint, Do not put smoked bacon in the refrigerator without it being sealed in something. Don’t ask me how I know that everything in the whole refrigerator will taste and smell like it has been smoked. That includes the ice cream in the freezer.

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                                Dr_Pain
                                Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
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                                #42

                                Idaho Smokey said in How I make my bacon.:

                                Dr_Pain Just a hint, Do not put smoked bacon in the refrigerator without it being sealed in something. Don’t ask me how I know that everything in the whole refrigerator will taste and smell like it has been smoked. That includes the ice cream in the freezer.

                                Definitely a pro-tip right there. I can’t wait to try my hands at it

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                                • Idaho SmokeyI Idaho Smokey

                                  Dr_Pain This bacon was cold smoked for 24 hours over 3 days. I use a large smoke tube in my smoker and it will run just under 8 hours. I start it in the morning and let the bacon hang out in the smoker all day. I put it in a zip lock and refrigerate it over night and then start again in the morning. Just a hint, Do not put smoked bacon in the refrigerator without it being sealed in something. Don’t ask me how I know that everything in the whole refrigerator will taste and smell like it has been smoked. That includes the ice cream in the freezer.

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                                  craigrice
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                                  Idaho Smokey smoked ice cream in the right flavor might be good ?

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                                  • Idaho SmokeyI Idaho Smokey

                                    Dr_Pain This bacon was cold smoked for 24 hours over 3 days. I use a large smoke tube in my smoker and it will run just under 8 hours. I start it in the morning and let the bacon hang out in the smoker all day. I put it in a zip lock and refrigerate it over night and then start again in the morning. Just a hint, Do not put smoked bacon in the refrigerator without it being sealed in something. Don’t ask me how I know that everything in the whole refrigerator will taste and smell like it has been smoked. That includes the ice cream in the freezer.

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                                    Idaho Smokey I made that mistake once. Always vacuum pack anything I cold smoke before actually using it for that same reason. I just laugh at my mistakes.

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                                    • craigriceC craigrice

                                      Idaho Smokey smoked ice cream in the right flavor might be good ?

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                                      craigrice said in How I make my bacon.:

                                      Idaho Smokey smoked ice cream in the right flavor might be good ?

                                      I’m intrigued also

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                                        I can’t post the Excel program here. The forum does not allow the extension used in Excel. Send me an email at rmbrad@sitestar.net if you are interested.

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                                        • Idaho SmokeyI Idaho Smokey

                                          I can’t post the Excel program here. The forum does not allow the extension used in Excel. Send me an email at rmbrad@sitestar.net if you are interested.

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                                          Idaho Smokey Hey bud, you can take a screenshot and post it as a picture. If you are on a PC you can hit (Windows Icon/Shit/S) and that will give you the ability to save a picture of whatever is on your screen

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