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  • Midwest_kcM Midwest_kc

    twilliams said in Walton's Smokehouse Cleaner:

    lkrfletcher as this has been discussed before I am probably gonna start an all out war as Jonathon has said before. I am no meat or smoker expert, however I disagree that having a thick creosote film on the walls provides better flavor in the meat being smoked. I have done research on several sites and as I found was nothing more than opinions of the debate of about 50/50% and had no clear scientific proof that the creosote was beneficial in flavor. The smoke that is generated is coming from the smoke pan filled with wood dust on a coil burner or pellets being dropped onto a heat source. Which fills the cabinet with smoke and that smoke adheres to the entire contents of the cabinet including meat at a particular stage of smoking and temperatures. The smoke does not come from the creosote on the interior surface.

    Here is the instruction manual for my particular smoker which is one step up bigger unit than the PK100 made by the same company. Take it for what it is, and you choose on how to proceed and maintain. Now I will say this, I do not clean the interior walls, ceiling, door and floor after every use. I only clean the drip pans and stainless steel rack every use as well as mineral oil the gasket. The manufacturer also said that they put the sticker and instructions in booklet to clean after every use for legality reasons as creosote build up is flammable.EB2FE286-B2C1-4350-B84A-6D813E5CF3B7.jpeg EEC6DC0C-B146-40D7-AFE3-C14C7474F42F.jpeg CB86C67F-6A10-4255-8A78-8155B526D057.jpeg F8D654E7-B217-49C3-9BF9-D728BB31AAD7.jpeg 9B6CF3A1-499E-47B9-A603-B9B766B9B13F.jpeg

    Late to the game here, but I am 100% on board with this. Sure, there’s the safety aspect (grease fires, etc), but a clean smoker is a happy smoker, imo. For competitions, we take our cookers down to bare steel before every contest. It cooks more consistently, has cleaner smoke, and makes a product that I can more consistently produce over and over again.

    First, while the Cresote isn’t making smoke, it will soften up and can fall on your food, in your fire basked/pan, etc. Even if you don’t realize it, there’s a reason that things color up quicker/get darker in that scenario vs a clean smoker. Personally, I don’t like the way the flavor changes, either, but that’s obviously personal preference.

    Second, let’s say that the creosote build up does improve the flavor in some way for you. The amount of it on the smoker is always changing. It’s either being added to, or taken away through cleaning. That means your flavor is always changing. If your cooker is always clean, then you can make the adjustments to get it the way you want and be able to recreate that every time.

    Just my $0.02

    lkrfletcherL Offline
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    lkrfletcher
    Sous Vide Canning PK100 Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Veteran
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    #23

    Midwest_kc Well Said

    Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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    • Midwest_kcM Midwest_kc

      twilliams said in Walton's Smokehouse Cleaner:

      lkrfletcher as this has been discussed before I am probably gonna start an all out war as Jonathon has said before. I am no meat or smoker expert, however I disagree that having a thick creosote film on the walls provides better flavor in the meat being smoked. I have done research on several sites and as I found was nothing more than opinions of the debate of about 50/50% and had no clear scientific proof that the creosote was beneficial in flavor. The smoke that is generated is coming from the smoke pan filled with wood dust on a coil burner or pellets being dropped onto a heat source. Which fills the cabinet with smoke and that smoke adheres to the entire contents of the cabinet including meat at a particular stage of smoking and temperatures. The smoke does not come from the creosote on the interior surface.

      Here is the instruction manual for my particular smoker which is one step up bigger unit than the PK100 made by the same company. Take it for what it is, and you choose on how to proceed and maintain. Now I will say this, I do not clean the interior walls, ceiling, door and floor after every use. I only clean the drip pans and stainless steel rack every use as well as mineral oil the gasket. The manufacturer also said that they put the sticker and instructions in booklet to clean after every use for legality reasons as creosote build up is flammable.EB2FE286-B2C1-4350-B84A-6D813E5CF3B7.jpeg EEC6DC0C-B146-40D7-AFE3-C14C7474F42F.jpeg CB86C67F-6A10-4255-8A78-8155B526D057.jpeg F8D654E7-B217-49C3-9BF9-D728BB31AAD7.jpeg 9B6CF3A1-499E-47B9-A603-B9B766B9B13F.jpeg

      Late to the game here, but I am 100% on board with this. Sure, there’s the safety aspect (grease fires, etc), but a clean smoker is a happy smoker, imo. For competitions, we take our cookers down to bare steel before every contest. It cooks more consistently, has cleaner smoke, and makes a product that I can more consistently produce over and over again.

      First, while the Cresote isn’t making smoke, it will soften up and can fall on your food, in your fire basked/pan, etc. Even if you don’t realize it, there’s a reason that things color up quicker/get darker in that scenario vs a clean smoker. Personally, I don’t like the way the flavor changes, either, but that’s obviously personal preference.

      Second, let’s say that the creosote build up does improve the flavor in some way for you. The amount of it on the smoker is always changing. It’s either being added to, or taken away through cleaning. That means your flavor is always changing. If your cooker is always clean, then you can make the adjustments to get it the way you want and be able to recreate that every time.

      Just my $0.02

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      cdavis
      Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
      wrote on last edited by
      #24

      Midwest_kc I agree 👍

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      • Midwest_kcM Midwest_kc

        twilliams said in Walton's Smokehouse Cleaner:

        lkrfletcher as this has been discussed before I am probably gonna start an all out war as Jonathon has said before. I am no meat or smoker expert, however I disagree that having a thick creosote film on the walls provides better flavor in the meat being smoked. I have done research on several sites and as I found was nothing more than opinions of the debate of about 50/50% and had no clear scientific proof that the creosote was beneficial in flavor. The smoke that is generated is coming from the smoke pan filled with wood dust on a coil burner or pellets being dropped onto a heat source. Which fills the cabinet with smoke and that smoke adheres to the entire contents of the cabinet including meat at a particular stage of smoking and temperatures. The smoke does not come from the creosote on the interior surface.

        Here is the instruction manual for my particular smoker which is one step up bigger unit than the PK100 made by the same company. Take it for what it is, and you choose on how to proceed and maintain. Now I will say this, I do not clean the interior walls, ceiling, door and floor after every use. I only clean the drip pans and stainless steel rack every use as well as mineral oil the gasket. The manufacturer also said that they put the sticker and instructions in booklet to clean after every use for legality reasons as creosote build up is flammable.EB2FE286-B2C1-4350-B84A-6D813E5CF3B7.jpeg EEC6DC0C-B146-40D7-AFE3-C14C7474F42F.jpeg CB86C67F-6A10-4255-8A78-8155B526D057.jpeg F8D654E7-B217-49C3-9BF9-D728BB31AAD7.jpeg 9B6CF3A1-499E-47B9-A603-B9B766B9B13F.jpeg

        Late to the game here, but I am 100% on board with this. Sure, there’s the safety aspect (grease fires, etc), but a clean smoker is a happy smoker, imo. For competitions, we take our cookers down to bare steel before every contest. It cooks more consistently, has cleaner smoke, and makes a product that I can more consistently produce over and over again.

        First, while the Cresote isn’t making smoke, it will soften up and can fall on your food, in your fire basked/pan, etc. Even if you don’t realize it, there’s a reason that things color up quicker/get darker in that scenario vs a clean smoker. Personally, I don’t like the way the flavor changes, either, but that’s obviously personal preference.

        Second, let’s say that the creosote build up does improve the flavor in some way for you. The amount of it on the smoker is always changing. It’s either being added to, or taken away through cleaning. That means your flavor is always changing. If your cooker is always clean, then you can make the adjustments to get it the way you want and be able to recreate that every time.

        Just my $0.02

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        twilliams
        Power User PK100 Regular Contributors Team Grey
        wrote on last edited by
        #25

        Midwest_kc a huge Thank You for your 0.02!! Says a lot coming from a master competition cook off person.

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        • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

          I have to say that this Walton Smokehouse cleaner is absolutely amazing. I cannot believe how fast it cleaned my PK100. The thing was absolutely black inside and with no scraping or scrubbing, it looks amazing. If you are looking to clean up your smoker, this is the stuff. I need to remove that bracket in back and replace the thermo bulb behind it. I had to clean it, otherwise I would have been covered in blackness. Take a look at this after pic. Only thing I didn’t clean was the door and roof- You can see how black the door is.

          cleaner.jpg

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          twilliams
          Power User PK100 Regular Contributors Team Grey
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          #26

          lkrfletcher so happy you had good results as much as I did. Now just remember to do your initial burn in period before cooking in it again.

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          • twilliamsT twilliams

            lkrfletcher so happy you had good results as much as I did. Now just remember to do your initial burn in period before cooking in it again.

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            lkrfletcher
            Sous Vide Canning PK100 Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Veteran
            wrote on last edited by
            #27

            twilliams - Will do

            Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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            • Midwest_kcM Midwest_kc

              twilliams said in Walton's Smokehouse Cleaner:

              lkrfletcher as this has been discussed before I am probably gonna start an all out war as Jonathon has said before. I am no meat or smoker expert, however I disagree that having a thick creosote film on the walls provides better flavor in the meat being smoked. I have done research on several sites and as I found was nothing more than opinions of the debate of about 50/50% and had no clear scientific proof that the creosote was beneficial in flavor. The smoke that is generated is coming from the smoke pan filled with wood dust on a coil burner or pellets being dropped onto a heat source. Which fills the cabinet with smoke and that smoke adheres to the entire contents of the cabinet including meat at a particular stage of smoking and temperatures. The smoke does not come from the creosote on the interior surface.

              Here is the instruction manual for my particular smoker which is one step up bigger unit than the PK100 made by the same company. Take it for what it is, and you choose on how to proceed and maintain. Now I will say this, I do not clean the interior walls, ceiling, door and floor after every use. I only clean the drip pans and stainless steel rack every use as well as mineral oil the gasket. The manufacturer also said that they put the sticker and instructions in booklet to clean after every use for legality reasons as creosote build up is flammable.EB2FE286-B2C1-4350-B84A-6D813E5CF3B7.jpeg EEC6DC0C-B146-40D7-AFE3-C14C7474F42F.jpeg CB86C67F-6A10-4255-8A78-8155B526D057.jpeg F8D654E7-B217-49C3-9BF9-D728BB31AAD7.jpeg 9B6CF3A1-499E-47B9-A603-B9B766B9B13F.jpeg

              Late to the game here, but I am 100% on board with this. Sure, there’s the safety aspect (grease fires, etc), but a clean smoker is a happy smoker, imo. For competitions, we take our cookers down to bare steel before every contest. It cooks more consistently, has cleaner smoke, and makes a product that I can more consistently produce over and over again.

              First, while the Cresote isn’t making smoke, it will soften up and can fall on your food, in your fire basked/pan, etc. Even if you don’t realize it, there’s a reason that things color up quicker/get darker in that scenario vs a clean smoker. Personally, I don’t like the way the flavor changes, either, but that’s obviously personal preference.

              Second, let’s say that the creosote build up does improve the flavor in some way for you. The amount of it on the smoker is always changing. It’s either being added to, or taken away through cleaning. That means your flavor is always changing. If your cooker is always clean, then you can make the adjustments to get it the way you want and be able to recreate that every time.

              Just my $0.02

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              Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
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              #28

              Midwest_kc Love the $0.02 and definitely put in my memory bank

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                #29

                My 0.02, the most unnecessary thing that a manufacturer puts in a smoker is a window. What are you going to see? Spend the money on a good temperature control and meat thermometers.

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                • YooperDogY YooperDog

                  My 0.02, the most unnecessary thing that a manufacturer puts in a smoker is a window. What are you going to see? Spend the money on a good temperature control and meat thermometers.

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                  Midwest_kc
                  Team Blue Sous Vide PK Grills Green Mountain Grill Regular Contributors
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                  #30

                  YooperDog amen to that.

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                  • YooperDogY YooperDog

                    My 0.02, the most unnecessary thing that a manufacturer puts in a smoker is a window. What are you going to see? Spend the money on a good temperature control and meat thermometers.

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                    Dr_Pain
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                    YooperDog Man, look at that wisdom flowing in the community! I will also Amen to that!

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                    • YooperDogY YooperDog

                      My 0.02, the most unnecessary thing that a manufacturer puts in a smoker is a window. What are you going to see? Spend the money on a good temperature control and meat thermometers.

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                      YooperDog said in Walton's Smokehouse Cleaner:

                      What are you going to see?

                      “Well would ya look at that…the smoke coming out the top is inside too!!” LOL

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                      • YooperDogY YooperDog

                        My 0.02, the most unnecessary thing that a manufacturer puts in a smoker is a window. What are you going to see? Spend the money on a good temperature control and meat thermometers.

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                        Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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                        YooperDog totally agree 👍

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                        • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

                          YooperDog said in Walton's Smokehouse Cleaner:

                          What are you going to see?

                          “Well would ya look at that…the smoke coming out the top is inside too!!” LOL

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                          Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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                          Ridley Acres you’re on a roll

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                          • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

                            I have to say that this Walton Smokehouse cleaner is absolutely amazing. I cannot believe how fast it cleaned my PK100. The thing was absolutely black inside and with no scraping or scrubbing, it looks amazing. If you are looking to clean up your smoker, this is the stuff. I need to remove that bracket in back and replace the thermo bulb behind it. I had to clean it, otherwise I would have been covered in blackness. Take a look at this after pic. Only thing I didn’t clean was the door and roof- You can see how black the door is.

                            cleaner.jpg

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                            Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
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                            lkrfletcher I agree it is a great cleaner, before I got it I was scrapping and scrubbing, now just spray it on and wipe off.

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