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  • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

    I make a venison pastrami that we all like here at home, however I have always questioned the amount of salt sure that goes in it. The recipe I have is for 4lbs of meat, but it calls for 8 tsp of instacure. Is that too much for that small amount of meat?

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    HerbcoFood said in Venison Pastrami:

    I make a venison pastrami that we all like here at home, however I have always questioned the amount of salt sure that goes in it. The recipe I have is for 4lbs of meat, but it calls for 8 tsp of instacure. Is that too much for that small amount of meat?

    Probably depends on the recipe. If the cure is part of a cover brine then all that cure isn’t going to end up in the meat

    If it is a dry rub, then yes, that is a lot of instacure #1

    Paul

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      processhead Absolutely gorgeous. Did you do the pastrami on Jewish Rye with butter or plain?

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      calldoctoday said in Venison Pastrami:

      processhead Absolutely gorgeous. Did you do the pastrami on Jewish Rye with butter or plain?

      I like the fresh rye bread they bake at our Hy-Vee stores. They call it Jewish Salt Rye.
      And yes, I will slather with that fresh bread with butter because, because, well…it is just so good!

      Salt Rye.jpg

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      • processheadP processhead

        calldoctoday said in Venison Pastrami:

        processhead Absolutely gorgeous. Did you do the pastrami on Jewish Rye with butter or plain?

        I like the fresh rye bread they bake at our Hy-Vee stores. They call it Jewish Salt Rye.
        And yes, I will slather with that fresh bread with butter because, because, well…it is just so good!

        Salt Rye.jpg

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        processhead I could sit there & make a glutton of myself with that, it is so good. I used to sit with my grandfather when I was a kid & he got me started on that very same stuff with a little cheese here & there. I have found it is not for everyone, but I sure do like it. Every now & then though…

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          calldoctoday Yes, and how about those caraway seeds? Also not for everyone, but I think it really adds to rye bread.
          I learned to like rye bread when I was a kid and my mom and dad would make rye toast and serve it with jaternice for breakfast.
          Reminds me, time to make a few lbs of that little delicacy.

          Paul

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          • processheadP processhead

            HerbcoFood said in Venison Pastrami:

            I make a venison pastrami that we all like here at home, however I have always questioned the amount of salt sure that goes in it. The recipe I have is for 4lbs of meat, but it calls for 8 tsp of instacure. Is that too much for that small amount of meat?

            Probably depends on the recipe. If the cure is part of a cover brine then all that cure isn’t going to end up in the meat

            If it is a dry rub, then yes, that is a lot of instacure #1

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            processhead Yes it goes into the brine after it has chilled.

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            • processheadP processhead

              Was hankering for some pastrami on rye this morning. This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.
              Before and after slicing.

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              processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

              This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

              So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

              1. How did you store this?
              2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
              3. What would you have done different?
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              • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

                processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

                So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

                1. How did you store this?
                2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
                3. What would you have done different?
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                Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

                processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

                So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

                1. How did you store this?
                2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
                3. What would you have done different?

                I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

                When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

                Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

                At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

                Paul

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                  Now that is some nice looking pastrami!!! I am with calldoctoday that I would sit and make myself a major glutton

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                  • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

                    processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                    This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

                    So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

                    1. How did you store this?
                    2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
                    3. What would you have done different?
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                    Ridley Acres When I make mine, after it’d done smoking I slice it and vacuum seal it in small portions for the freezer. I haven’t noticed anything different from the day I made to eating it months later.

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                    • processheadP processhead

                      Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

                      processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                      This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

                      So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

                      1. How did you store this?
                      2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
                      3. What would you have done different?

                      I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

                      When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

                      Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

                      At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

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                      processhead & HerbcoFood thanks for the info

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                      • processheadP processhead

                        Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

                        processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                        This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

                        So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

                        1. How did you store this?
                        2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
                        3. What would you have done different?

                        I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

                        When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

                        Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

                        At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

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                        processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                        Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

                        processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                        This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

                        So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

                        1. How did you store this?
                        2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
                        3. What would you have done different?

                        I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

                        When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

                        Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

                        At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

                        Here are some pics I took this morning just prior to slicing of that 9 month old pastrami.
                        Flavor and texture was great. The original bright internal color may have faded slightly.

                        20211012_101421.jpg

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                        20211012_102040.jpg

                        Paul

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                        • processheadP processhead

                          processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                          Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

                          processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                          This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

                          So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

                          1. How did you store this?
                          2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
                          3. What would you have done different?

                          I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

                          When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

                          Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

                          At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

                          Here are some pics I took this morning just prior to slicing of that 9 month old pastrami.
                          Flavor and texture was great. The original bright internal color may have faded slightly.

                          20211012_101421.jpg

                          20211012_101458.jpg
                          20211012_101540.jpg
                          20211012_102040.jpg

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                          processhead Great info, thanks for posting

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                            processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                            Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

                            processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                            This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

                            So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

                            1. How did you store this?
                            2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
                            3. What would you have done different?

                            I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

                            When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

                            Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

                            At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

                            Here are some pics I took this morning just prior to slicing of that 9 month old pastrami.
                            Flavor and texture was great. The original bright internal color may have faded slightly.

                            20211012_101421.jpg

                            20211012_101458.jpg
                            20211012_101540.jpg
                            20211012_102040.jpg

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                            processhead nothing wrong with that. It looks great 👍.

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                              That’s going to make a great sandwich

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                                I am going to be making some to be smoked on Halloween weekend.

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                                • processheadP processhead

                                  processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                                  Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

                                  processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                                  This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

                                  So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

                                  1. How did you store this?
                                  2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
                                  3. What would you have done different?

                                  I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

                                  When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

                                  Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

                                  At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

                                  Here are some pics I took this morning just prior to slicing of that 9 month old pastrami.
                                  Flavor and texture was great. The original bright internal color may have faded slightly.

                                  20211012_101421.jpg

                                  20211012_101458.jpg
                                  20211012_101540.jpg
                                  20211012_102040.jpg

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                                  processhead - Looks great. I am going after elk in a couple weeks. I will have to try.

                                  Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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                                    Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

                                    Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
                                    This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

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                                    Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

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                                    Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
                                    Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

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                                    • processheadP processhead

                                      Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

                                      Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
                                      This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

                                      20211226_143634.jpg

                                      Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

                                      20211226_145816.jpg

                                      20211226_151246.jpg

                                      20211226_151253.jpg

                                      Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
                                      Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

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                                      processhead looks really good. I’m glad to see someone else also uses tender quick.

                                      hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                        processhead looks really good. I’m glad to see someone else also uses tender quick.

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                                        kyle I use Tenderquick since it was called for in the recipe I have been using for a long time and I like the overall results I get.
                                        I don’t think there is anything particularly special about it, since it is just salt, sugar and cure, after all.

                                        I was actually thinking about it today and was considering what combination of those ingredients I would use if I were to come up with a substitute.

                                        Reality is, I tend to stick with something that works unless it becomes unavailable and I am forced to come up with an alternative.

                                        Paul

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                                          kyle I use Tenderquick since it was called for in the recipe I have been using for a long time and I like the overall results I get.
                                          I don’t think there is anything particularly special about it, since it is just salt, sugar and cure, after all.

                                          I was actually thinking about it today and was considering what combination of those ingredients I would use if I were to come up with a substitute.

                                          Reality is, I tend to stick with something that works unless it becomes unavailable and I am forced to come up with an alternative.

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                                          processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

                                          hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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