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  • Dr_PainD Offline
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    Dr_Pain
    Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
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    #20

    Now that is some nice looking pastrami!!! I am with calldoctoday that I would sit and make myself a major glutton

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    • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

      processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

      This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

      So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

      1. How did you store this?
      2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
      3. What would you have done different?
      HerbcoFoodH Offline
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      Regular Contributors Team Orange Sous Vide
      wrote on last edited by
      #21

      Ridley Acres When I make mine, after it’d done smoking I slice it and vacuum seal it in small portions for the freezer. I haven’t noticed anything different from the day I made to eating it months later.

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      • processheadP processhead

        Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

        processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

        This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

        So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

        1. How did you store this?
        2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
        3. What would you have done different?

        I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

        When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

        Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

        At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

        Ridley AcresR Offline
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        processhead & HerbcoFood thanks for the info

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        • processheadP processhead

          Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

          processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

          This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

          So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

          1. How did you store this?
          2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
          3. What would you have done different?

          I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

          When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

          Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

          At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

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          Regular Contributors Power User
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          processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

          Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

          processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

          This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

          So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

          1. How did you store this?
          2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
          3. What would you have done different?

          I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

          When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

          Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

          At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

          Here are some pics I took this morning just prior to slicing of that 9 month old pastrami.
          Flavor and texture was great. The original bright internal color may have faded slightly.

          20211012_101421.jpg

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          Paul

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          • processheadP processhead

            processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

            Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

            processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

            This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

            So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

            1. How did you store this?
            2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
            3. What would you have done different?

            I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

            When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

            Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

            At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

            Here are some pics I took this morning just prior to slicing of that 9 month old pastrami.
            Flavor and texture was great. The original bright internal color may have faded slightly.

            20211012_101421.jpg

            20211012_101458.jpg
            20211012_101540.jpg
            20211012_102040.jpg

            Ridley AcresR Offline
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            #24

            processhead Great info, thanks for posting

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            • processheadP processhead

              processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

              Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

              processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

              This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

              So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

              1. How did you store this?
              2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
              3. What would you have done different?

              I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

              When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

              Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

              At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

              Here are some pics I took this morning just prior to slicing of that 9 month old pastrami.
              Flavor and texture was great. The original bright internal color may have faded slightly.

              20211012_101421.jpg

              20211012_101458.jpg
              20211012_101540.jpg
              20211012_102040.jpg

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              #25

              processhead nothing wrong with that. It looks great 👍.

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              • samspadeS Offline
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                That’s going to make a great sandwich

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                • HerbcoFoodH Offline
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                  #27

                  I am going to be making some to be smoked on Halloween weekend.

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                  • processheadP processhead

                    processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                    Ridley Acres said in Venison Pastrami:

                    processhead said in Venison Pastrami:

                    This is some pastrami I made in December from the hindquarters of a doe I shot.

                    So you made it in December and it is October of the following year. I have questions:

                    1. How did you store this?
                    2. Do you notice any flavor or texture differences being nearly 11 months old?
                    3. What would you have done different?

                    I took the finished pastrami and cut it into 2-3 lb chunks of roughly the same size. Then I individually vacuum sealed them and froze them.

                    When I want to serve some, I thaw out one of the chunks in the refrigerator and slice it up thinly on my slicer.

                    Like most meats that have been frozen and thawed, I will have some moisture pulls out of the meat to the surface. Flavor and texture do not change too much on the frozen/thawed product.

                    At this point, I don’t know of a better way to store it. It probably freezes and stores better than a lot of other things do.

                    Here are some pics I took this morning just prior to slicing of that 9 month old pastrami.
                    Flavor and texture was great. The original bright internal color may have faded slightly.

                    20211012_101421.jpg

                    20211012_101458.jpg
                    20211012_101540.jpg
                    20211012_102040.jpg

                    lkrfletcherL Offline
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                    Sous Vide Canning PK100 Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Veteran
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #28

                    processhead - Looks great. I am going after elk in a couple weeks. I will have to try.

                    Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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                      wrote on last edited by processhead
                      #29

                      Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

                      Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
                      This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

                      20211226_143634.jpg

                      Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

                      20211226_145816.jpg

                      20211226_151246.jpg

                      20211226_151253.jpg

                      Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
                      Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

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                      Paul

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                      • processheadP processhead

                        Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

                        Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
                        This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

                        20211226_143634.jpg

                        Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

                        20211226_145816.jpg

                        20211226_151246.jpg

                        20211226_151253.jpg

                        Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
                        Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

                        20211230_070801.jpg
                        20211230_070940.jpg
                        20211230_082225.jpg
                        ![20211230_091126.jpg]
                        20211230_090904.jpg
                        (/assets/uploads/files/1640896266139-20211230_091126.jpg)
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                        #30

                        processhead looks really good. I’m glad to see someone else also uses tender quick.

                        hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                        • kyleK kyle

                          processhead looks really good. I’m glad to see someone else also uses tender quick.

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                          wrote on last edited by processhead
                          #31

                          kyle I use Tenderquick since it was called for in the recipe I have been using for a long time and I like the overall results I get.
                          I don’t think there is anything particularly special about it, since it is just salt, sugar and cure, after all.

                          I was actually thinking about it today and was considering what combination of those ingredients I would use if I were to come up with a substitute.

                          Reality is, I tend to stick with something that works unless it becomes unavailable and I am forced to come up with an alternative.

                          Paul

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                          • processheadP processhead

                            kyle I use Tenderquick since it was called for in the recipe I have been using for a long time and I like the overall results I get.
                            I don’t think there is anything particularly special about it, since it is just salt, sugar and cure, after all.

                            I was actually thinking about it today and was considering what combination of those ingredients I would use if I were to come up with a substitute.

                            Reality is, I tend to stick with something that works unless it becomes unavailable and I am forced to come up with an alternative.

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                            #32

                            processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

                            hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                            • processheadP processhead

                              Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

                              Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
                              This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

                              20211226_143634.jpg

                              Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

                              20211226_145816.jpg

                              20211226_151246.jpg

                              20211226_151253.jpg

                              Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
                              Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

                              20211230_070801.jpg
                              20211230_070940.jpg
                              20211230_082225.jpg
                              ![20211230_091126.jpg]
                              20211230_090904.jpg
                              (/assets/uploads/files/1640896266139-20211230_091126.jpg)
                              20211230_091126.jpg
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                              20211231_093038.jpg

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                              processhead Very good looking meat there.

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                              • processheadP processhead

                                Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

                                Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
                                This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

                                20211226_143634.jpg

                                Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

                                20211226_145816.jpg

                                20211226_151246.jpg

                                20211226_151253.jpg

                                Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
                                Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

                                20211230_070801.jpg
                                20211230_070940.jpg
                                20211230_082225.jpg
                                ![20211230_091126.jpg]
                                20211230_090904.jpg
                                (/assets/uploads/files/1640896266139-20211230_091126.jpg)
                                20211230_091126.jpg
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                                20211231_093038.jpg

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                                processhead looking good 👍.

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                                • kyleK kyle

                                  processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

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                                  kyle said in Venison Pastrami:

                                  processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

                                  I read through the chipped deer thread and I think the comment on TQ was the fact that it contains sodium nitrate and most other cures do not. The argument against using cures with nitrate in them has to do with cooking at high temperature and formation of nitrosamines. With chipped venison preparation in the kitchen, it seems unlikely that you would see those high temperatures, so I think that any risks are very minor when used the way we are using it.

                                  I think the best reason for using Cure #1 in processing is the correct amount to use for good, safe results is well documented and straight forward. Directions for using TQ are less so, IMO.

                                  Paul

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                                  • processheadP processhead

                                    kyle said in Venison Pastrami:

                                    processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

                                    I read through the chipped deer thread and I think the comment on TQ was the fact that it contains sodium nitrate and most other cures do not. The argument against using cures with nitrate in them has to do with cooking at high temperature and formation of nitrosamines. With chipped venison preparation in the kitchen, it seems unlikely that you would see those high temperatures, so I think that any risks are very minor when used the way we are using it.

                                    I think the best reason for using Cure #1 in processing is the correct amount to use for good, safe results is well documented and straight forward. Directions for using TQ are less so, IMO.

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                                    processhead thanks for taking the time to read through it and your explanation. As the old saying goes “*I dont understand everything I know”

                                    hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                    • kyleK kyle

                                      processhead thanks for taking the time to read through it and your explanation. As the old saying goes “*I dont understand everything I know”

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                                      kyle Incidentally, I have made SOS with my venison pastrami and it was very good.

                                      Paul

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                                      • kyleK kyle

                                        processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

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                                        kyle I think if I still have a boned out hind quarter in the freezer that is going on the list for late Jan otherwise it will need to be put on the Nov list. But then I could always do a trial with beef. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice, practice, practice…

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                                          kyle Incidentally, I have made SOS with my venison pastrami and it was very good.

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                                          processhead Nicely done! I always make mine from brisket, might have to do a hind next year.

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