Chambered Sealers
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JoeB It does, it has a rubber seal inside that hold it down, but the bag inflates during the sealing and will pill out from under the bar if you don’t overlap the bar far enough. Seems the external bags are slicker due to the pattern. All the Vacmaster machines do 29.75 inches, it states that other machines (meaning other brands) only do 26". By the way, I am probably as old as you are, we all have those brain farts now and then
johnsbrewhouse said in Chambered Sealers:
JoeB It does, it has a rubber seal inside that hold it down, but the bag inflates during the sealing and will pill out from under the bar if you don’t overlap the bar far enough. Seems the external bags are slicker due to the pattern. All the Vacmaster machines do 29.75 inches, it states that other machines (meaning other brands) only do 26". By the way, I am probably as old as you are, we all have those brain farts now and then
JoeB TEAM BLUE less than a minute ago
I watched their vid an they said to keep the bag even with the bar?? So with textured bags over lap a bit?Brain farts??? I blame our dog for any smell anomalies
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johnsbrewhouse said in Chambered Sealers:
JoeB It does, it has a rubber seal inside that hold it down, but the bag inflates during the sealing and will pill out from under the bar if you don’t overlap the bar far enough. Seems the external bags are slicker due to the pattern. All the Vacmaster machines do 29.75 inches, it states that other machines (meaning other brands) only do 26". By the way, I am probably as old as you are, we all have those brain farts now and then
JoeB TEAM BLUE less than a minute ago
I watched their vid an they said to keep the bag even with the bar?? So with textured bags over lap a bit?Brain farts??? I blame our dog for any smell anomalies
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JoeB I would, I found that if you don’t they pull loose for some reason. I believe it might have something to do with the waffle pattern. I probably should try turning the bag over to see if it make a difference. That is with the pattern towards the rubber, may hold it better than the Teflon heat tape side
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The textured pattern is on the inside right??
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JoeB Inside and outside of one side of the bag.
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JoeB Inside and outside of one side of the bag.
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Maybe put the textured side up?
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badfire2625 1st, thank you, we are both better and back to work, I handled it like more of a man than Austin did. We have an interesting competition coming up here pretty soon, we need to get past a few things but he made a statement recently that was just insane about the speed of something so I have to prove it (live) and then collect some sort of reward! We started talking about it around Christmas but that was just the demo units that we were testing that we showed during one livestream. JoeB Stand strong brother!
As far as the price of the units goes, I have no clue at this point. So many things are sky rocketing in price right now. It hasnt hit us terribly yet but I am sure it is coming. If anyone doesnt know what I am talking about, put a nice laptop or tablet in your cart in amazon and go back a week later. It’ll be 5% or more. I am not a stocks guy but I bought some bitcoin a few months ago as I want to bring my wife back to the place we took our honeymoon, so I figured I’d see what a small investment would do for me. I have basically doubled my investment and now am just angry I didnt buy more. Having said that, I think it is nearing it’s high for the foreseeable future. It is hovering around 60k per bitcoin and I think it will be a while until we see Elon Musks prediction of them being a million each! Sorry…rambled there. This is the first time I have been on this weekend so I have a lot of things running through my mind!
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badfire2625 Unfortunately I do think that Jonathon has had blue leeched all through his brain. I am sure that it is causing some unwanted side effects, but we are still closely monitoring him and the situation to make sure it is nothing serious. Haha!
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So I started with a Vacmaster 112s a few years ago. When I went to the 112s it was mind blowing compared to a foodsaver. I ran about 1250 bags through it when it broke the first time. That was right when Trump put the tariffs on China. It took 9 months for Ary to get me a used solenoid because, in the mean time they stopped producing that model. I got it back working order to have the same failure symptoms about 6months later. I got another used part in the mail from Ary but the problem never came back. I ordered a VP230 this past summer, I had to order/pay for it before it was even manufactured because they were constantly back ordered. As soon as I received the new sealer I sold my old one for money than I paid for it due to large price increases prior to stopping production.
My 112s would make the body of the sealer so hot you didnt wanna touch it after 25 bags with no rest. Ary assured me several times this was normal and would not affect the longevity of the machine.My opinion is: a double seal bar or double heating elements is a must. And an oil pump is 1/2 as loud, and 3x as fast as a dry pump.
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So I started with a Vacmaster 112s a few years ago. When I went to the 112s it was mind blowing compared to a foodsaver. I ran about 1250 bags through it when it broke the first time. That was right when Trump put the tariffs on China. It took 9 months for Ary to get me a used solenoid because, in the mean time they stopped producing that model. I got it back working order to have the same failure symptoms about 6months later. I got another used part in the mail from Ary but the problem never came back. I ordered a VP230 this past summer, I had to order/pay for it before it was even manufactured because they were constantly back ordered. As soon as I received the new sealer I sold my old one for money than I paid for it due to large price increases prior to stopping production.
My 112s would make the body of the sealer so hot you didnt wanna touch it after 25 bags with no rest. Ary assured me several times this was normal and would not affect the longevity of the machine.My opinion is: a double seal bar or double heating elements is a must. And an oil pump is 1/2 as loud, and 3x as fast as a dry pump.
deanlorensen Does the VP230 have a double seal bar & element, I know it has a 1/2hp oil pump… Thanks
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deanlorensen Does the VP230 have a double seal bar & element, I know it has a 1/2hp oil pump… Thanks
JoeB
Single seal bar but 2 elements in it about 1/4inch between them. I double sealed almost all my bags prior to this machine. Its the most likely place of failure and if your seal is no good you might as well not even bother with a vacuum seal process. If I remember right the 220 and 230 was the difference between a dry pump and a oil pump. I skipped over the VP210/215 for a longer seal bar and wider chamber. My thought process was what goods a 15inch wide chamber with only a 10inch sealbar. -
JoeB
Single seal bar but 2 elements in it about 1/4inch between them. I double sealed almost all my bags prior to this machine. Its the most likely place of failure and if your seal is no good you might as well not even bother with a vacuum seal process. If I remember right the 220 and 230 was the difference between a dry pump and a oil pump. I skipped over the VP210/215 for a longer seal bar and wider chamber. My thought process was what goods a 15inch wide chamber with only a 10inch sealbar.deanlorensen Thanks, have you ever used textured bags… I have about 1000 of them left over from my Weston 2300
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Yep, they work fine. I wanna try double-sided textured bags in my machine outside of the chamber. I’ve seen videos of other machines doing it. Apparently the double textures allows enough air channels for it to draw vacuum inside the bag. Then you could do an infinite sized bag.
I buy my bags by the case of a 1000 and I buy 3 sizes. Like a quart, gallon and then about 2.5gallon size, that seems to work well for my family.
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Yep, they work fine. I wanna try double-sided textured bags in my machine outside of the chamber. I’ve seen videos of other machines doing it. Apparently the double textures allows enough air channels for it to draw vacuum inside the bag. Then you could do an infinite sized bag.
I buy my bags by the case of a 1000 and I buy 3 sizes. Like a quart, gallon and then about 2.5gallon size, that seems to work well for my family.
deanlorensen I’m a little confused, i thought all the textured bags had 1 side textured inside and outside of the bag. I buy the precut, an rolls… there’re all like that I use them with a vac sealer weston 2300. There is no seal button on the VP230 for quick cycle? Just asking a lot of questions because that a lot of money to make a mistake.
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deanlorensen I’m a little confused, i thought all the textured bags had 1 side textured inside and outside of the bag. I buy the precut, an rolls… there’re all like that I use them with a vac sealer weston 2300. There is no seal button on the VP230 for quick cycle? Just asking a lot of questions because that a lot of money to make a mistake.
JoeB nah. they make a double textured bag too but they are less common and more expensive.
No the VP230 does not have a seal only button. Once you activate the vacuum process it does a full cycle even if you hit the stop button it seals and lets air back in. Closing the lid starts it and when its done the lid springs open.
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deanlorensen I’m a little confused, i thought all the textured bags had 1 side textured inside and outside of the bag. I buy the precut, an rolls… there’re all like that I use them with a vac sealer weston 2300. There is no seal button on the VP230 for quick cycle? Just asking a lot of questions because that a lot of money to make a mistake.
JoeB Can’t speak for the VP230, but when you hit the stop on the VP215, it evacuates to the vacuum it is at and then seals. I do this for items that would crush to remove some air, but not all. I have found this feature very useful.
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Thanks, you’ve been a great help. I too will have to pay up front. But it’s a good price $1179 w/free shipping. 60 day back order My Weston will seal 16” w bags. I guess I’ll use it for bag making.
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JoeB Can’t speak for the VP230, but when you hit the stop on the VP215, it evacuates to the vacuum it is at and then seals. I do this for items that would crush to remove some air, but not all. I have found this feature very useful.
Chef, thanks, good info
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