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  • JonathonJ Offline
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    Jonathon
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    Tex_77 Yeah we trust Nebraskas food science department for sure! Send it and I’ll try to get it posted.

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      Any one make there own chicken stock and then can it? I have all the bones left from my chicken sausage and wanted to make my own stock but can I water bath something like this?

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        Any one make there own chicken stock and then can it? I have all the bones left from my chicken sausage and wanted to make my own stock but can I water bath something like this?

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        calldoctoday
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        detter22 Yes, I do it & just did a batch a week or so ago. However, Chef does it much better & regularly cans the broth rather than freezing it like I have been doing for years & just did the canned version. Check with Chef first. However, my version is get yo a big ol pot of bones & I mean big. Fill the pot with water to cover the bones. Put you a splash of clear (non mother) apple cider vinegar in there. Put the about 3-4 carrots or so chopped coarse, 1-2 two sweet or Bermuda onions chopped coarse, a bulb of smashed garlic cloves, Ahead of celery copped coarse, herbs like Bay leaves, Rosemary, Basil, Pepper Corns, Sage, & a little salt. ( Hope I did not leave anything out as I am doing this from memory rather than my recipe). Then simmer dem bones for a few days on lowwww…Then strain dem bones out of the broth along with all the other stuff. You can set the meat that falls off if you have enough & use it in something. Then drink a little of that good clear goodness & share some with anyone around. It is good stuff. Then transfer the broth into quart or pint mason jars & pressure can for at least 25 minutes at 10 pounds for quarts & 20 minutes at 10 pounds for pints. It sounds like it does not hurt to go over a bit. I blew a top last week for the first time in over 40 years, but I have hear from others, it has happened to them before & no harm & was great for chicken zoup in a hurry. Oh, in your case if dem bones was raw, smoke em or roast em a bit before simmering em. I never worry about that because most of mine came out of something smoked already as I have been doing this for years with the remains of various carcasses. We don’t want nothin from no body, but we try not to waste anything either! I hope that helps a bit &doesn’t make it confusing because it is real easy. However, check with Chef as well as he is real good at this, better than me.

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          calldoctoday
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          PS: I say the depends, because that can depend on how many bones you have & how big a pot o boiled bones you are makin.

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            PS: I say the depends, because that can depend on how many bones you have & how big a pot o boiled bones you are makin.

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            calldoctoday can I just do a normal water bath if I don’t have a pressure cooker?

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              Any one make there own chicken stock and then can it? I have all the bones left from my chicken sausage and wanted to make my own stock but can I water bath something like this?

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              Chef
              Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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              detter22 I would not trust a water bath. My suggestion for pints, 60 mins 10 or 15 pounds, quarts, 75 minutes at 10 or 15 pounds. I always do 15 pounds and have never had a problem.

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                calldoctoday can I just do a normal water bath if I don’t have a pressure cooker?

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                calldoctoday
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                detter22 Check with Chef first as he is the authority on this. However, I am pretty sure you need to do a pressure canning event for something like this at the minimum I recommended as bone broth is very low acid & more basic & has a higher likelyhood to spoil if not done right (with pressure).

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                  detter22 Yes, I do it & just did a batch a week or so ago. However, Chef does it much better & regularly cans the broth rather than freezing it like I have been doing for years & just did the canned version. Check with Chef first. However, my version is get yo a big ol pot of bones & I mean big. Fill the pot with water to cover the bones. Put you a splash of clear (non mother) apple cider vinegar in there. Put the about 3-4 carrots or so chopped coarse, 1-2 two sweet or Bermuda onions chopped coarse, a bulb of smashed garlic cloves, Ahead of celery copped coarse, herbs like Bay leaves, Rosemary, Basil, Pepper Corns, Sage, & a little salt. ( Hope I did not leave anything out as I am doing this from memory rather than my recipe). Then simmer dem bones for a few days on lowwww…Then strain dem bones out of the broth along with all the other stuff. You can set the meat that falls off if you have enough & use it in something. Then drink a little of that good clear goodness & share some with anyone around. It is good stuff. Then transfer the broth into quart or pint mason jars & pressure can for at least 25 minutes at 10 pounds for quarts & 20 minutes at 10 pounds for pints. It sounds like it does not hurt to go over a bit. I blew a top last week for the first time in over 40 years, but I have hear from others, it has happened to them before & no harm & was great for chicken zoup in a hurry. Oh, in your case if dem bones was raw, smoke em or roast em a bit before simmering em. I never worry about that because most of mine came out of something smoked already as I have been doing this for years with the remains of various carcasses. We don’t want nothin from no body, but we try not to waste anything either! I hope that helps a bit &doesn’t make it confusing because it is real easy. However, check with Chef as well as he is real good at this, better than me.

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                  YooperDog
                  Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
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                  calldoctoday don’t forget to add chicken feet to the mix. They will give your stock/broth a good amount of body.

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                  • YooperDogY YooperDog

                    calldoctoday don’t forget to add chicken feet to the mix. They will give your stock/broth a good amount of body.

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                    YooperDog Absolutely correct. Did that with my last batch, I was very impressed just how much chicken feet add to the quality. I’m waiting for it to drop below 88’F to make a big batch of chicken and dumplings.

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                    • YooperDogY YooperDog

                      calldoctoday don’t forget to add chicken feet to the mix. They will give your stock/broth a good amount of body.

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                      YooperDog Hmm, I would have never imagined. Of course that would also mean I would have to either butcher all of our chickens or buy some chicken feet, since we always use the remains of an existing project or more rightly, several existing projects… I think I have seen them selling at the Piggly Wiggly, I cannot imagine they would be too expensive. I will have to try that some day.

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                        YooperDog Hmm, I would have never imagined. Of course that would also mean I would have to either butcher all of our chickens or buy some chicken feet, since we always use the remains of an existing project or more rightly, several existing projects… I think I have seen them selling at the Piggly Wiggly, I cannot imagine they would be too expensive. I will have to try that some day.

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                        calldoctoday the butcher shop I use has them in the freezer section. I have seen them in Walmart, Hispanic and oriental groceries. Pretty inexpensive product, I don’t think that they will be going the way of brisket. LOL

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                          I finally found an All-American pressure canner (930) at a decent price, so I pulled the trigger. I gave it a practice run with only water the other day. Today, I processed 5 quarts of some greens from the garden. I figured that would be a cheap, easy, low risk way to give it a run with some actual food.

                          I must say that I am highly impressed with this thing. I look forward to canning up a bunch of stock!

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                          • TexLawT TexLaw

                            I finally found an All-American pressure canner (930) at a decent price, so I pulled the trigger. I gave it a practice run with only water the other day. Today, I processed 5 quarts of some greens from the garden. I figured that would be a cheap, easy, low risk way to give it a run with some actual food.

                            I must say that I am highly impressed with this thing. I look forward to canning up a bunch of stock!

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                            TexLaw It’s the best out there. Hope you have grandkids to pass it down to. And all parts that wear out are available to keep it in top shape. Congratuations

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                            • TexLawT TexLaw

                              I finally found an All-American pressure canner (930) at a decent price, so I pulled the trigger. I gave it a practice run with only water the other day. Today, I processed 5 quarts of some greens from the garden. I figured that would be a cheap, easy, low risk way to give it a run with some actual food.

                              I must say that I am highly impressed with this thing. I look forward to canning up a bunch of stock!

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                              TexLaw
                              Very nice

                              Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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                              • TexLawT TexLaw

                                I finally found an All-American pressure canner (930) at a decent price, so I pulled the trigger. I gave it a practice run with only water the other day. Today, I processed 5 quarts of some greens from the garden. I figured that would be a cheap, easy, low risk way to give it a run with some actual food.

                                I must say that I am highly impressed with this thing. I look forward to canning up a bunch of stock!

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                                TexLaw I bought my wife one 2 years ago and she still brags about it and she’s hard to please. I bet you’ll love it. Congrats

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                                • TexLawT TexLaw

                                  I finally found an All-American pressure canner (930) at a decent price, so I pulled the trigger. I gave it a practice run with only water the other day. Today, I processed 5 quarts of some greens from the garden. I figured that would be a cheap, easy, low risk way to give it a run with some actual food.

                                  I must say that I am highly impressed with this thing. I look forward to canning up a bunch of stock!

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                                  TexLaw Excellent choice, prudent decision!

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                                    Had to do something about those Satsumas, Lemons, Persimmons, etc. before the cold hit this week. Canned up a whole lot of Satsumas with Ruby Red Grapefruit, & lemons, Satsuma Marmalade, Satsuma Bourbon Jelly, & froze up several quarts of Persimmon Puree. I lost one quart of Canned Satsumas in medium syrup as the bottom of one of my old Kerr Satsumas, resized.jpg wide mouth jars blew out. I would have thought maybe one of those no name jars would have done it, but it happened to an old Kerr. Here are a few photos of some of this Canned Sunshine.Satsuma Bourbon Jelly, resized.jpg Satsuma Marmalade, resized.jpg

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                                      calldoctoday may just had a bad batch. I’m sure there is not the same level of quality control. All processes have variability. Might just have been bad luck for me. Also I can a lot of my BBQ sauce and lots of soup that I sell.

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                                      Chef Canned up several jars of Beef Bone Broth last night that has been simmering a few days. It turned out very good & everyone liked it better than usual. I thought it was just a little lacking on salt. Still cracking those gallons & gallons of pecans too.

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                                        Chef Canned up several jars of Beef Bone Broth last night that has been simmering a few days. It turned out very good & everyone liked it better than usual. I thought it was just a little lacking on salt. Still cracking those gallons & gallons of pecans too.

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                                        calldoctoday looks like you have been busy. I did about a gallon of Turkey broth recently and I thought that was a lot. I have finally been lucky enough to find some lids, so now that you got me motivated I will have to get off my duff and get going so I can get out and do some ice fishing.

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                                        • YooperDogY YooperDog

                                          calldoctoday looks like you have been busy. I did about a gallon of Turkey broth recently and I thought that was a lot. I have finally been lucky enough to find some lids, so now that you got me motivated I will have to get off my duff and get going so I can get out and do some ice fishing.

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                                          YooperDog Yes, I got lucky too & suddenly saw a bunch of Ball regular lids. They were gone in minutes though, unbelievable. I still need to get some more wide mouth lids though as I am down to about a dozen there. I think I will do the Turkey next, too. I have a few carcasses in the freezer from Thanksgiving, etc.

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