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  • C calldoctoday

    Chef Wow, That makes me worry a bit since I am only striving for 10 at 25, at least for the broth. I may have been doing more for the King Creole & other marinara type sauces, etc. However, the lids are all good as I check that, number one once they have cooled & really before. I can share the King Creole first chance I can dig it out & write it up.

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    calldoctoday I wouldn’t worry about it at all. If the lid doesn’t pop, it’s likely great. I have always thought that I’m over processing. Might need to do a bit of experimenting.

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      Jonathon I have a large document that the University of Nebraska Extension department put together of people’s pickle recipes from like 1975, if I scanned that into a PDF and sent it to you, could you post a link to it somewhere?

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      Tex_77 That would be very interesting if it can be posted. If not, could you email it?

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      • ChefC Chef

        txoutdoorsman this looks great as well. I love crispy pickles.

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        Chef I’m sure y’all have those wild grapes growing around Sealy as well.

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          I’ve seen them, I just need to pay attention to them and pick some. Does anyone know if canned grape leaves work?

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            calldoctoday Thanks, it sounds very interesting. I’m wondering if it is like my mothers. Never got that recipe, but a bit of a kick. She also always but boiled eggs in her marinara sauce, everyone thought that was the greatest.

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            Chef Now Boiled Eggs in Spicy Marinara sounds like a real winner!

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            • C calldoctoday

              Chef Now Boiled Eggs in Spicy Marinara sounds like a real winner!

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              calldoctoday I know my brother-in-law, who is a passive as anyone I know fought for them. Something about that magical pairing that just works. She even put them inside her meatloaves.

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                Tex_77 Yeah we trust Nebraskas food science department for sure! Send it and I’ll try to get it posted.

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                  Any one make there own chicken stock and then can it? I have all the bones left from my chicken sausage and wanted to make my own stock but can I water bath something like this?

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                    Any one make there own chicken stock and then can it? I have all the bones left from my chicken sausage and wanted to make my own stock but can I water bath something like this?

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                    detter22 Yes, I do it & just did a batch a week or so ago. However, Chef does it much better & regularly cans the broth rather than freezing it like I have been doing for years & just did the canned version. Check with Chef first. However, my version is get yo a big ol pot of bones & I mean big. Fill the pot with water to cover the bones. Put you a splash of clear (non mother) apple cider vinegar in there. Put the about 3-4 carrots or so chopped coarse, 1-2 two sweet or Bermuda onions chopped coarse, a bulb of smashed garlic cloves, Ahead of celery copped coarse, herbs like Bay leaves, Rosemary, Basil, Pepper Corns, Sage, & a little salt. ( Hope I did not leave anything out as I am doing this from memory rather than my recipe). Then simmer dem bones for a few days on lowwww…Then strain dem bones out of the broth along with all the other stuff. You can set the meat that falls off if you have enough & use it in something. Then drink a little of that good clear goodness & share some with anyone around. It is good stuff. Then transfer the broth into quart or pint mason jars & pressure can for at least 25 minutes at 10 pounds for quarts & 20 minutes at 10 pounds for pints. It sounds like it does not hurt to go over a bit. I blew a top last week for the first time in over 40 years, but I have hear from others, it has happened to them before & no harm & was great for chicken zoup in a hurry. Oh, in your case if dem bones was raw, smoke em or roast em a bit before simmering em. I never worry about that because most of mine came out of something smoked already as I have been doing this for years with the remains of various carcasses. We don’t want nothin from no body, but we try not to waste anything either! I hope that helps a bit &doesn’t make it confusing because it is real easy. However, check with Chef as well as he is real good at this, better than me.

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                      PS: I say the depends, because that can depend on how many bones you have & how big a pot o boiled bones you are makin.

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                        PS: I say the depends, because that can depend on how many bones you have & how big a pot o boiled bones you are makin.

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                        calldoctoday can I just do a normal water bath if I don’t have a pressure cooker?

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                        • D detter22

                          Any one make there own chicken stock and then can it? I have all the bones left from my chicken sausage and wanted to make my own stock but can I water bath something like this?

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                          detter22 I would not trust a water bath. My suggestion for pints, 60 mins 10 or 15 pounds, quarts, 75 minutes at 10 or 15 pounds. I always do 15 pounds and have never had a problem.

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                            calldoctoday can I just do a normal water bath if I don’t have a pressure cooker?

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                            detter22 Check with Chef first as he is the authority on this. However, I am pretty sure you need to do a pressure canning event for something like this at the minimum I recommended as bone broth is very low acid & more basic & has a higher likelyhood to spoil if not done right (with pressure).

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                            • C calldoctoday

                              detter22 Yes, I do it & just did a batch a week or so ago. However, Chef does it much better & regularly cans the broth rather than freezing it like I have been doing for years & just did the canned version. Check with Chef first. However, my version is get yo a big ol pot of bones & I mean big. Fill the pot with water to cover the bones. Put you a splash of clear (non mother) apple cider vinegar in there. Put the about 3-4 carrots or so chopped coarse, 1-2 two sweet or Bermuda onions chopped coarse, a bulb of smashed garlic cloves, Ahead of celery copped coarse, herbs like Bay leaves, Rosemary, Basil, Pepper Corns, Sage, & a little salt. ( Hope I did not leave anything out as I am doing this from memory rather than my recipe). Then simmer dem bones for a few days on lowwww…Then strain dem bones out of the broth along with all the other stuff. You can set the meat that falls off if you have enough & use it in something. Then drink a little of that good clear goodness & share some with anyone around. It is good stuff. Then transfer the broth into quart or pint mason jars & pressure can for at least 25 minutes at 10 pounds for quarts & 20 minutes at 10 pounds for pints. It sounds like it does not hurt to go over a bit. I blew a top last week for the first time in over 40 years, but I have hear from others, it has happened to them before & no harm & was great for chicken zoup in a hurry. Oh, in your case if dem bones was raw, smoke em or roast em a bit before simmering em. I never worry about that because most of mine came out of something smoked already as I have been doing this for years with the remains of various carcasses. We don’t want nothin from no body, but we try not to waste anything either! I hope that helps a bit &doesn’t make it confusing because it is real easy. However, check with Chef as well as he is real good at this, better than me.

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                              calldoctoday don’t forget to add chicken feet to the mix. They will give your stock/broth a good amount of body.

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                              • YooperDogY YooperDog

                                calldoctoday don’t forget to add chicken feet to the mix. They will give your stock/broth a good amount of body.

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                                YooperDog Absolutely correct. Did that with my last batch, I was very impressed just how much chicken feet add to the quality. I’m waiting for it to drop below 88’F to make a big batch of chicken and dumplings.

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                                • YooperDogY YooperDog

                                  calldoctoday don’t forget to add chicken feet to the mix. They will give your stock/broth a good amount of body.

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                                  YooperDog Hmm, I would have never imagined. Of course that would also mean I would have to either butcher all of our chickens or buy some chicken feet, since we always use the remains of an existing project or more rightly, several existing projects… I think I have seen them selling at the Piggly Wiggly, I cannot imagine they would be too expensive. I will have to try that some day.

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                                  • C calldoctoday

                                    YooperDog Hmm, I would have never imagined. Of course that would also mean I would have to either butcher all of our chickens or buy some chicken feet, since we always use the remains of an existing project or more rightly, several existing projects… I think I have seen them selling at the Piggly Wiggly, I cannot imagine they would be too expensive. I will have to try that some day.

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                                    calldoctoday the butcher shop I use has them in the freezer section. I have seen them in Walmart, Hispanic and oriental groceries. Pretty inexpensive product, I don’t think that they will be going the way of brisket. LOL

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                                      I finally found an All-American pressure canner (930) at a decent price, so I pulled the trigger. I gave it a practice run with only water the other day. Today, I processed 5 quarts of some greens from the garden. I figured that would be a cheap, easy, low risk way to give it a run with some actual food.

                                      I must say that I am highly impressed with this thing. I look forward to canning up a bunch of stock!

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                                      • TexLawT TexLaw

                                        I finally found an All-American pressure canner (930) at a decent price, so I pulled the trigger. I gave it a practice run with only water the other day. Today, I processed 5 quarts of some greens from the garden. I figured that would be a cheap, easy, low risk way to give it a run with some actual food.

                                        I must say that I am highly impressed with this thing. I look forward to canning up a bunch of stock!

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                                        TexLaw It’s the best out there. Hope you have grandkids to pass it down to. And all parts that wear out are available to keep it in top shape. Congratuations

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                                        • TexLawT TexLaw

                                          I finally found an All-American pressure canner (930) at a decent price, so I pulled the trigger. I gave it a practice run with only water the other day. Today, I processed 5 quarts of some greens from the garden. I figured that would be a cheap, easy, low risk way to give it a run with some actual food.

                                          I must say that I am highly impressed with this thing. I look forward to canning up a bunch of stock!

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                                          TexLaw
                                          Very nice

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