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    armyguy
    Yearling
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    Well, I have one on the way. I was looking at Walton’s website and I couldn’t find the hanging rods for it? I saw the Diamant smoke sticks but they seem to long.

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      Jonathon
      Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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      armyguy We just use wooden dowels. I can’t remember if it comes with them or not…don’t use the diamant sticks, you could cut them down but you’d get out a lot cheaper with thick wooden dowels!

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        So bring this back up with a few more questions. I’m planning on doing 10lbs of the Walton’s “beer brats” flavored Smoked Sausage sometime in the coming weeks for an Oktoberfest party I’m having at my house. Was going to do these brats, some fresh made soft pretzels, beer cheese in on of those nacho cheese warmer things, and have a few Oktoberfest style homebrews on tap.

        I’ve made one batch so far of the Blue Ribbon sausage on the MES40 and wasn’t super happy with the turnout. They were too dry and I think that’s because I didn’t know about keeping humidity at the time.

        This batch I plan on using the 32mm clear collagen casings instead of the tubed hog casings for ease of use. I’m just going to twist them to the size I want using a ruler on the table, then cut them into individual sausages and lay them on the racks of the PK100. I’m going to use the water bowl method with sponges/cloth that Jon showed in his video to get the humidity up. For some reason, the extra bowl I bought from Walton’s for the PK100 looks way smaller than the bowl Jon used in the video. Did they change the bowl size?

        So two questions,

        1. Do I have to change the racks around throughout the cook to have them cook evenly, top to bottom?

        2. What do you guys think about this thing for helping keep even temps?

        https://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_29&products_id=850

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          So bring this back up with a few more questions. I’m planning on doing 10lbs of the Walton’s “beer brats” flavored Smoked Sausage sometime in the coming weeks for an Oktoberfest party I’m having at my house. Was going to do these brats, some fresh made soft pretzels, beer cheese in on of those nacho cheese warmer things, and have a few Oktoberfest style homebrews on tap.

          I’ve made one batch so far of the Blue Ribbon sausage on the MES40 and wasn’t super happy with the turnout. They were too dry and I think that’s because I didn’t know about keeping humidity at the time.

          This batch I plan on using the 32mm clear collagen casings instead of the tubed hog casings for ease of use. I’m just going to twist them to the size I want using a ruler on the table, then cut them into individual sausages and lay them on the racks of the PK100. I’m going to use the water bowl method with sponges/cloth that Jon showed in his video to get the humidity up. For some reason, the extra bowl I bought from Walton’s for the PK100 looks way smaller than the bowl Jon used in the video. Did they change the bowl size?

          So two questions,

          1. Do I have to change the racks around throughout the cook to have them cook evenly, top to bottom?

          2. What do you guys think about this thing for helping keep even temps?

          https://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_29&products_id=850

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          Parksider
          Team Blue PK100 Power User
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          armyguy Why don’t you just hang the sausages instead of laying them down? Jon does a video of how to link into 3 link globes. I use that all the time. But if you do lay them down, yes I’d rotate the trays.
          As for the fan, i’d worry about it fanning the sawdust too much and making more heat/fire, end up burning it down. It doesn’t need it from my experience, save the $90 and buy another gadget.
          I cut my own sticks out of hickory tree or my friend used old broom stick, flattened one side so it wouldn’t roll, anything will work. My sticks are now seasoned from being in the smoker, like that you can see the “experience” they have!
          I have always used a foil wrapped brick in my weber smokey mtn water bowl to help even out the temp. also start with hot water, make it whatever temp you’ll be running the smoker at so it doesn’t struggle to heat up water and the meat.
          You could always give them a spritz too, I do that with pork butts so why wouldn’t it work.

          John C.

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            Jonathon
            Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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            armyguy Yes, the bowl that comes with the PK is for smoker chips, I went and found the biggest metal bowl I could find that would fit in the pk100. The PK is so well insulated that it only has a few degree fluctuation from top to bottom. We just tested it this a few weeks ago with two ambient thermometers and I beleive it was less than 5 degrees from top to bottom with vents open and closed.

            I would worry about drilling through to install that. If you had an eletric that had thinner sheet metal body I’d say go for it but A) I dont think you will need it and B) installation worries me.

            Oh and you shouldn’t NEED to move the racks but it’s a good idea.

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              Parksider Ahh I didnt even think about it blowing over the sawdust, good point.

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                Parksider
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                armyguy Previous owner drilled holes in top and bottom of the side and back. I’ll stick the grill eye pro in next time and see the differences.

                John C.

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                • A armyguy

                  So bring this back up with a few more questions. I’m planning on doing 10lbs of the Walton’s “beer brats” flavored Smoked Sausage sometime in the coming weeks for an Oktoberfest party I’m having at my house. Was going to do these brats, some fresh made soft pretzels, beer cheese in on of those nacho cheese warmer things, and have a few Oktoberfest style homebrews on tap.

                  I’ve made one batch so far of the Blue Ribbon sausage on the MES40 and wasn’t super happy with the turnout. They were too dry and I think that’s because I didn’t know about keeping humidity at the time.

                  This batch I plan on using the 32mm clear collagen casings instead of the tubed hog casings for ease of use. I’m just going to twist them to the size I want using a ruler on the table, then cut them into individual sausages and lay them on the racks of the PK100. I’m going to use the water bowl method with sponges/cloth that Jon showed in his video to get the humidity up. For some reason, the extra bowl I bought from Walton’s for the PK100 looks way smaller than the bowl Jon used in the video. Did they change the bowl size?

                  So two questions,

                  1. Do I have to change the racks around throughout the cook to have them cook evenly, top to bottom?

                  2. What do you guys think about this thing for helping keep even temps?

                  https://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_29&products_id=850

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                  AdamCA
                  Team Blue Regular Contributors Green Mountain Grill Masterbuilt
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                  armyguy When you cooked the Blue Ribbon Brats in the smoker did you add a cure and binder or just made them as a Fresh sausage? If you made them Fresh and then smoked them I’d imagine the reason they were dry was probably more because the fat rendered out instead of low humidity but I’m not certain of that. I have the Masterbuilt 30 and that thing is awesome, never more than a 2-4 degree difference from top to bottom. I do need to cut some sticks to hang sausage from as I usually just lay everything on the racks (that has worked great so far) but I want to see if there’s a noticeable difference in cooking time. I doubt it but I know appearance wise there will be as there won’t be the rack marks.

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                    armyguy When you cooked the Blue Ribbon Brats in the smoker did you add a cure and binder or just made them as a Fresh sausage? If you made them Fresh and then smoked them I’d imagine the reason they were dry was probably more because the fat rendered out instead of low humidity but I’m not certain of that. I have the Masterbuilt 30 and that thing is awesome, never more than a 2-4 degree difference from top to bottom. I do need to cut some sticks to hang sausage from as I usually just lay everything on the racks (that has worked great so far) but I want to see if there’s a noticeable difference in cooking time. I doubt it but I know appearance wise there will be as there won’t be the rack marks.

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                    armyguy
                    Yearling
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                    AdamCA Yeah I actually used cure and binder. My MES 40 fluctuates temps like crazy(25+ degrees). I have the PK100 now and I need to do some tests, but it looks like it’s going to work really well.

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                      armyguy
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                      On another note, going to throw a fresh rack of St. Louis on it today. Do you guys use a water pan when doing ribs?

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                        On another note, going to throw a fresh rack of St. Louis on it today. Do you guys use a water pan when doing ribs?

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                        Parksider
                        Team Blue PK100 Power User
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                        armyguy yes definitely! I put a foil wrapped brick in to keep heat even.

                        John C.

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                          MCURRAN
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                          Does the PK100 handle 25lb batches of snack sticks? Does anyone have pictures of their PK100 loaded with sticks? I’d plan to go with 19mm casings and hang them on wooden dowels. Thanks!

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                            lkrfletcher
                            Sous Vide Canning PK100 Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Veteran
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                            I think if you used small dowels to hang them - Like 1/2 inch. I think you could fit them hanging. Sorry, I do not have a pic, and usually do 12.5 pound batches in my PK100

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                              MCURRAN Yeah, it depends a little on the size of your casings and how close you can pack them in there but a 25 lb batch should be doable with minimal fuss. I know I have done them with 21mm and I am almost positive I have done them with 19mm as well.

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                                MCURRAN Yeah, it depends a little on the size of your casings and how close you can pack them in there but a 25 lb batch should be doable with minimal fuss. I know I have done them with 21mm and I am almost positive I have done them with 19mm as well.

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                                Jonathon Thanks for the reply! I’m thinking this is going to replace my bandera offset that I’ve been using. Managing the temperate vertically in that unit is tough. In my last batch, I had 15 degree differences from the top of the stick to the bottom. They turned out okay, some really good, but some overcooked. I like the smoke flavor from the offset, but I’ll sacrifice that for a more uniform product out of the PK100.

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                                  MCURRAN I can’t guarantee this but I’d be pretty shocked if you weren’t happy with the smoke flavor from the PK100

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