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Zombie Apocalypse Jerky? Extended Shelf Life?

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  • H Hellbent

    Hi everyone,

    I finally worked up the courage to join and ask a question so here goes. Sorry it’s kind of weird…

    A buddy of mine asked if I knew how to make “survival jerky” and I’m trying figure it out. By survival jerky I mean a long term shelf stable product that could be stored for long periods without refrigeration and used when needed. Think of something like an MRE in the military. Here are my ideas so far. Please let me know if I’m on the right track or need to do something else.

    It would have start out being a very lean whole muscle product.

    I would need to add sure cure but can’t seem to find the conversion table for 1 or 5 pound batches.

    I would start it in the oven for a while to get the internal temperature up to 180ish

    Take it to the dehydrator and let it sit in there until the pieces break cleanly apart. Basically dehydrated into a crispy strip.

    Anyone else tried to make any meat products for long term storage?

    Thanks, Hellbent

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    kyle
    Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    Hellbent welcome to the community. Glad you joined. It’s a great place. Good luck with your jerky

    hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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    • H Hellbent

      Hi everyone,

      I finally worked up the courage to join and ask a question so here goes. Sorry it’s kind of weird…

      A buddy of mine asked if I knew how to make “survival jerky” and I’m trying figure it out. By survival jerky I mean a long term shelf stable product that could be stored for long periods without refrigeration and used when needed. Think of something like an MRE in the military. Here are my ideas so far. Please let me know if I’m on the right track or need to do something else.

      It would have start out being a very lean whole muscle product.

      I would need to add sure cure but can’t seem to find the conversion table for 1 or 5 pound batches.

      I would start it in the oven for a while to get the internal temperature up to 180ish

      Take it to the dehydrator and let it sit in there until the pieces break cleanly apart. Basically dehydrated into a crispy strip.

      Anyone else tried to make any meat products for long term storage?

      Thanks, Hellbent

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      Dave in AZ
      Military Veterans Sous Vide Canning Traeger Regular Contributors Power User
      wrote on last edited by Dave in AZ
      #4

      Hellbent welcome! I have seen several videos foe a whole muscle jerky survival food for long term. Look up Biltong on youtube, 2guysandacooler has several good ones on that and also pemmican.

      But yeah, if you salt and dry it will last.

      If you want to know all the correct times, temps, heat before dry, etc stuff for making jerky, then paste this into your google and download the USFDA jerky guide:
      FSIS Compliance Guideline for Meat and
      Poultry Jerky Produced by Small and
      Very Small Establishments
      2014 Compliance Guideline

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        Jonathon
        Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        Speaking of Zombies… CWD is really becoming a problem.
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        Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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          processhead
          Regular Contributors Power User
          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          One thing you can do to improve shelf life after processing is to vacuum seal smaller packages of jerky before putting them in storage.
          Curing and drying will make it pretty much biologically stable, however you may still have mold and oxidation (rancidity) if it is simply stored in bulk.
          Vacuum sealing will help inhibit both mold and oxidation.
          Vacuum sealing requires a little planning since once you break the seal, you have lost the preservative/protection, thus the reason behind dividing the batch into smaller vacuum sealed packages.

          Paul

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          • H Hellbent

            Hi everyone,

            I finally worked up the courage to join and ask a question so here goes. Sorry it’s kind of weird…

            A buddy of mine asked if I knew how to make “survival jerky” and I’m trying figure it out. By survival jerky I mean a long term shelf stable product that could be stored for long periods without refrigeration and used when needed. Think of something like an MRE in the military. Here are my ideas so far. Please let me know if I’m on the right track or need to do something else.

            It would have start out being a very lean whole muscle product.

            I would need to add sure cure but can’t seem to find the conversion table for 1 or 5 pound batches.

            I would start it in the oven for a while to get the internal temperature up to 180ish

            Take it to the dehydrator and let it sit in there until the pieces break cleanly apart. Basically dehydrated into a crispy strip.

            Anyone else tried to make any meat products for long term storage?

            Thanks, Hellbent

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            bocephus
            Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
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            #7

            Hellbent Welcome aboard, great site with a lot of people willing to help.

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              Regular Contributors
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              Hellbent if you think about the original jerky: it was heavily salted, heavily smoked, and very dry. do not use any liquid marinade. all dry seasonings. Lean it out, salt and smoke the HECK (happy Jonathon, no swear jar) out of it. when you fold it there should be some tearing along the fold

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              • JonathonJ Jonathon

                Speaking of Zombies… CWD is really becoming a problem.
                4beb32e6-aa22-4379-b2d2-06ed304665e5-image.png

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                bocephus
                Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                Jonathon I am hoping they can figure this stuff out and stop the spread.

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                  Hellbent
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  Wow thank you all for the great replies! That helps tremendously as those are excellent points and good links.

                  Jonathan - thanks for the link I knew I’d seen it somewhere on the site but just couldn’t find it. I would eat raw steaks with you but would throw them on a fire for two seconds each side to get the grill marks. I like grill marks…

                  Kyle - thanks man yeah you guys have been awesome

                  Dave - I will have to check out those videos. Biltong is a thing I’ve been wanting to work on for awhile now. We have a bunch of South African dudes here working for the grain elevators and big farms. I need to get lessons from them while they’re here.

                  Process head - you’re spot on with the vacuum sealing. I didn’t think about mold and all that great point and it would make it convenient to put in an emergency kit like for a car or take hiking or hunting.

                  Bocephus - thanks I’m sure glad I finally joined

                  Departing contestant -. I think you’re right about doing only dry seasonings and long smoke or dry times. you make an excellent point about back in the day. How did they do it and what did they know or do that maybe we don’t know nowadays. There is a lot to be learned from old timers

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                  • H Hellbent

                    Wow thank you all for the great replies! That helps tremendously as those are excellent points and good links.

                    Jonathan - thanks for the link I knew I’d seen it somewhere on the site but just couldn’t find it. I would eat raw steaks with you but would throw them on a fire for two seconds each side to get the grill marks. I like grill marks…

                    Kyle - thanks man yeah you guys have been awesome

                    Dave - I will have to check out those videos. Biltong is a thing I’ve been wanting to work on for awhile now. We have a bunch of South African dudes here working for the grain elevators and big farms. I need to get lessons from them while they’re here.

                    Process head - you’re spot on with the vacuum sealing. I didn’t think about mold and all that great point and it would make it convenient to put in an emergency kit like for a car or take hiking or hunting.

                    Bocephus - thanks I’m sure glad I finally joined

                    Departing contestant -. I think you’re right about doing only dry seasonings and long smoke or dry times. you make an excellent point about back in the day. How did they do it and what did they know or do that maybe we don’t know nowadays. There is a lot to be learned from old timers

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                    PapaSop
                    Team Orange Power User Veteran
                    wrote on last edited by
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                    Hellbent said in Zombie Apocalypse Jerky? Extended Shelf Life?:

                    Wow thank you all for the great replies! That helps tremendously as those are excellent points and good links.

                    Jonathan - thanks for the link I knew I’d seen it somewhere on the site but just couldn’t find it. I would eat raw steaks with you but would throw them on a fire for two seconds each side to get the grill marks. I like grill marks…

                    Kyle - thanks man yeah you guys have been awesome

                    Dave - I will have to check out those videos. Biltong is a thing I’ve been wanting to work on for awhile now. We have a bunch of South African dudes here working for the grain elevators and big farms. I need to get lessons from them while they’re here.

                    Process head - you’re spot on with the vacuum sealing. I didn’t think about mold and all that great point and it would make it convenient to put in an emergency kit like for a car or take hiking or hunting.

                    Bocephus - thanks I’m sure glad I finally joined

                    Departing contestant -. I think you’re right about doing only dry seasonings and long smoke or dry times. you make an excellent point about back in the day. How did they do it and what did they know or do that maybe we don’t know nowadays. There is a lot to be learned from old timers

                    Welcome. You’ll get a lot of good info here.

                    If you want to reference someone as you just did. Try this.
                    Use the @ symbol. If the name doesn’t pop up your looking for, start typing the name and you’ll get some hits.

                    Good luck, and thanks for being here.

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                      PapaSop
                      Team Orange Power User Veteran
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                      Hellbent
                      Just that easy.😊

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                      • H Hellbent

                        Hi everyone,

                        I finally worked up the courage to join and ask a question so here goes. Sorry it’s kind of weird…

                        A buddy of mine asked if I knew how to make “survival jerky” and I’m trying figure it out. By survival jerky I mean a long term shelf stable product that could be stored for long periods without refrigeration and used when needed. Think of something like an MRE in the military. Here are my ideas so far. Please let me know if I’m on the right track or need to do something else.

                        It would have start out being a very lean whole muscle product.

                        I would need to add sure cure but can’t seem to find the conversion table for 1 or 5 pound batches.

                        I would start it in the oven for a while to get the internal temperature up to 180ish

                        Take it to the dehydrator and let it sit in there until the pieces break cleanly apart. Basically dehydrated into a crispy strip.

                        Anyone else tried to make any meat products for long term storage?

                        Thanks, Hellbent

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                        calldoctoday
                        Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
                        wrote on last edited by
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                        Hellbent Welcome aboard & welcome to the neighborhood. Keep on asking questions & making suggestions, Participation is amazing.

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                        • H Hellbent

                          Wow thank you all for the great replies! That helps tremendously as those are excellent points and good links.

                          Jonathan - thanks for the link I knew I’d seen it somewhere on the site but just couldn’t find it. I would eat raw steaks with you but would throw them on a fire for two seconds each side to get the grill marks. I like grill marks…

                          Kyle - thanks man yeah you guys have been awesome

                          Dave - I will have to check out those videos. Biltong is a thing I’ve been wanting to work on for awhile now. We have a bunch of South African dudes here working for the grain elevators and big farms. I need to get lessons from them while they’re here.

                          Process head - you’re spot on with the vacuum sealing. I didn’t think about mold and all that great point and it would make it convenient to put in an emergency kit like for a car or take hiking or hunting.

                          Bocephus - thanks I’m sure glad I finally joined

                          Departing contestant -. I think you’re right about doing only dry seasonings and long smoke or dry times. you make an excellent point about back in the day. How did they do it and what did they know or do that maybe we don’t know nowadays. There is a lot to be learned from old timers

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                          cdavis
                          Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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                          Hellbent welcome and good luck with your survivel jerky.

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                            mrobisr
                            Team Blue Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            Welcome, for really shelf stable meat products jerky is not the answer. Dried beef and canned meats are more shelf stable than traditional jerky, but for the real deal pemmican would be a better solution. MRE’s do not hold up really well unless kept in perfect conditions thus when you see the inspection date on the MRE package that is under ideal conditions. Yes I have tested them under real world conditions and while still sorta eatable the color, taste, and texture was severely degraded outside of those perfect storage conditions. As processhead stated mold can also be a problem so look into potassium sorbate to inhibit that growth for long term storage and oxygen absorbers.

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