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Zombie Apocalypse Jerky? Extended Shelf Life?

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  • processheadP Offline
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    processhead
    Regular Contributors Power User
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    One thing you can do to improve shelf life after processing is to vacuum seal smaller packages of jerky before putting them in storage.
    Curing and drying will make it pretty much biologically stable, however you may still have mold and oxidation (rancidity) if it is simply stored in bulk.
    Vacuum sealing will help inhibit both mold and oxidation.
    Vacuum sealing requires a little planning since once you break the seal, you have lost the preservative/protection, thus the reason behind dividing the batch into smaller vacuum sealed packages.

    Paul

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    • H Hellbent

      Hi everyone,

      I finally worked up the courage to join and ask a question so here goes. Sorry it’s kind of weird…

      A buddy of mine asked if I knew how to make “survival jerky” and I’m trying figure it out. By survival jerky I mean a long term shelf stable product that could be stored for long periods without refrigeration and used when needed. Think of something like an MRE in the military. Here are my ideas so far. Please let me know if I’m on the right track or need to do something else.

      It would have start out being a very lean whole muscle product.

      I would need to add sure cure but can’t seem to find the conversion table for 1 or 5 pound batches.

      I would start it in the oven for a while to get the internal temperature up to 180ish

      Take it to the dehydrator and let it sit in there until the pieces break cleanly apart. Basically dehydrated into a crispy strip.

      Anyone else tried to make any meat products for long term storage?

      Thanks, Hellbent

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      bocephus
      Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
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      Hellbent Welcome aboard, great site with a lot of people willing to help.

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        Hellbent if you think about the original jerky: it was heavily salted, heavily smoked, and very dry. do not use any liquid marinade. all dry seasonings. Lean it out, salt and smoke the HECK (happy Jonathon, no swear jar) out of it. when you fold it there should be some tearing along the fold

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        • JonathonJ Jonathon

          Speaking of Zombies… CWD is really becoming a problem.
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          bocephus
          Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
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          Jonathon I am hoping they can figure this stuff out and stop the spread.

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            Hellbent
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            Wow thank you all for the great replies! That helps tremendously as those are excellent points and good links.

            Jonathan - thanks for the link I knew I’d seen it somewhere on the site but just couldn’t find it. I would eat raw steaks with you but would throw them on a fire for two seconds each side to get the grill marks. I like grill marks…

            Kyle - thanks man yeah you guys have been awesome

            Dave - I will have to check out those videos. Biltong is a thing I’ve been wanting to work on for awhile now. We have a bunch of South African dudes here working for the grain elevators and big farms. I need to get lessons from them while they’re here.

            Process head - you’re spot on with the vacuum sealing. I didn’t think about mold and all that great point and it would make it convenient to put in an emergency kit like for a car or take hiking or hunting.

            Bocephus - thanks I’m sure glad I finally joined

            Departing contestant -. I think you’re right about doing only dry seasonings and long smoke or dry times. you make an excellent point about back in the day. How did they do it and what did they know or do that maybe we don’t know nowadays. There is a lot to be learned from old timers

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            • H Hellbent

              Wow thank you all for the great replies! That helps tremendously as those are excellent points and good links.

              Jonathan - thanks for the link I knew I’d seen it somewhere on the site but just couldn’t find it. I would eat raw steaks with you but would throw them on a fire for two seconds each side to get the grill marks. I like grill marks…

              Kyle - thanks man yeah you guys have been awesome

              Dave - I will have to check out those videos. Biltong is a thing I’ve been wanting to work on for awhile now. We have a bunch of South African dudes here working for the grain elevators and big farms. I need to get lessons from them while they’re here.

              Process head - you’re spot on with the vacuum sealing. I didn’t think about mold and all that great point and it would make it convenient to put in an emergency kit like for a car or take hiking or hunting.

              Bocephus - thanks I’m sure glad I finally joined

              Departing contestant -. I think you’re right about doing only dry seasonings and long smoke or dry times. you make an excellent point about back in the day. How did they do it and what did they know or do that maybe we don’t know nowadays. There is a lot to be learned from old timers

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              PapaSop
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              Hellbent said in Zombie Apocalypse Jerky? Extended Shelf Life?:

              Wow thank you all for the great replies! That helps tremendously as those are excellent points and good links.

              Jonathan - thanks for the link I knew I’d seen it somewhere on the site but just couldn’t find it. I would eat raw steaks with you but would throw them on a fire for two seconds each side to get the grill marks. I like grill marks…

              Kyle - thanks man yeah you guys have been awesome

              Dave - I will have to check out those videos. Biltong is a thing I’ve been wanting to work on for awhile now. We have a bunch of South African dudes here working for the grain elevators and big farms. I need to get lessons from them while they’re here.

              Process head - you’re spot on with the vacuum sealing. I didn’t think about mold and all that great point and it would make it convenient to put in an emergency kit like for a car or take hiking or hunting.

              Bocephus - thanks I’m sure glad I finally joined

              Departing contestant -. I think you’re right about doing only dry seasonings and long smoke or dry times. you make an excellent point about back in the day. How did they do it and what did they know or do that maybe we don’t know nowadays. There is a lot to be learned from old timers

              Welcome. You’ll get a lot of good info here.

              If you want to reference someone as you just did. Try this.
              Use the @ symbol. If the name doesn’t pop up your looking for, start typing the name and you’ll get some hits.

              Good luck, and thanks for being here.

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                Hellbent
                Just that easy.😊

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                • H Hellbent

                  Hi everyone,

                  I finally worked up the courage to join and ask a question so here goes. Sorry it’s kind of weird…

                  A buddy of mine asked if I knew how to make “survival jerky” and I’m trying figure it out. By survival jerky I mean a long term shelf stable product that could be stored for long periods without refrigeration and used when needed. Think of something like an MRE in the military. Here are my ideas so far. Please let me know if I’m on the right track or need to do something else.

                  It would have start out being a very lean whole muscle product.

                  I would need to add sure cure but can’t seem to find the conversion table for 1 or 5 pound batches.

                  I would start it in the oven for a while to get the internal temperature up to 180ish

                  Take it to the dehydrator and let it sit in there until the pieces break cleanly apart. Basically dehydrated into a crispy strip.

                  Anyone else tried to make any meat products for long term storage?

                  Thanks, Hellbent

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                  calldoctoday
                  Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
                  wrote on last edited by
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                  Hellbent Welcome aboard & welcome to the neighborhood. Keep on asking questions & making suggestions, Participation is amazing.

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                  • H Hellbent

                    Wow thank you all for the great replies! That helps tremendously as those are excellent points and good links.

                    Jonathan - thanks for the link I knew I’d seen it somewhere on the site but just couldn’t find it. I would eat raw steaks with you but would throw them on a fire for two seconds each side to get the grill marks. I like grill marks…

                    Kyle - thanks man yeah you guys have been awesome

                    Dave - I will have to check out those videos. Biltong is a thing I’ve been wanting to work on for awhile now. We have a bunch of South African dudes here working for the grain elevators and big farms. I need to get lessons from them while they’re here.

                    Process head - you’re spot on with the vacuum sealing. I didn’t think about mold and all that great point and it would make it convenient to put in an emergency kit like for a car or take hiking or hunting.

                    Bocephus - thanks I’m sure glad I finally joined

                    Departing contestant -. I think you’re right about doing only dry seasonings and long smoke or dry times. you make an excellent point about back in the day. How did they do it and what did they know or do that maybe we don’t know nowadays. There is a lot to be learned from old timers

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                    cdavis
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                    Hellbent welcome and good luck with your survivel jerky.

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                      mrobisr
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                      wrote on last edited by
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                      Welcome, for really shelf stable meat products jerky is not the answer. Dried beef and canned meats are more shelf stable than traditional jerky, but for the real deal pemmican would be a better solution. MRE’s do not hold up really well unless kept in perfect conditions thus when you see the inspection date on the MRE package that is under ideal conditions. Yes I have tested them under real world conditions and while still sorta eatable the color, taste, and texture was severely degraded outside of those perfect storage conditions. As processhead stated mold can also be a problem so look into potassium sorbate to inhibit that growth for long term storage and oxygen absorbers.

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