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  • Retired157R Retired157

    So, as was sitting here this morning, I decided that a good use of my time as I am waiting for all my ‘ingredients’ to arrive, would be to generate a document for myself that would GUIDE me through the ‘How To’ of the process I am using to make Summer Sausage. Now the first thing I should explain is that some… many… ok, maybe all of my friends say that I have a case of OCD; something I vehemently deny! Here’s what I’ve come up with. If anyone sees something that I have totally ‘screwed’ up, please let me know now. Many of you will recognize the fact that I tried to use a lot of the tips from this site and the MEATGISTIC folks and their videos.

    Note Here… Walton’s was ‘Out of Stock’ on their Sure Gel Binder so I am in a bit of a waiting pattern for that.

    Summer Sausage
    ‘The Process’

    Ingredients…

    10lbs of meat
    H-Summer
    Sure Gel Binder
    Sure Cure
    Encapsulated Citric Acid (accelerator)
    High Temp Cheese

    Water… 2 pints of water (=’s 2 lbs) per 25 lbs. 2 pints =’s 32 ounces
    32oz’s divided by 25 lbs =’s 1.28 ounces per pound of meat
    -10 lbs/meat x’s 1.28oz’s =’s 12.8 ounces of water… or .8 pounds

    Fibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… remember to soak in warm water for 30min’s to an hour BEFORE stuffing


    Grinding of Meat…

    Use a 80% to 20% ratio of ‘meat’ (deer/elk) to pork (Fat Back)… 8lbs of meat and 2lbs of Fat Back for a total of 10 lbs of meat.

    Grind meat twice… first with 3/8” (10mm) plate - second with 1/8” (3mm) plate. Remember to ‘lube/oil’ your plates & cutting knives. Be sure to cool all your grinding ‘parts’ in the freezer for several hours BEFORE beginning the overall process of grinding your meat. Your meat needs to be ‘very’ cold… near freezing.

    Mixing…

    Objective here is to get ‘High Protein Extraction’… get the meat Tacky/Sticky - Squeeze & Mix Method

    *H-Summer (per pound) = .9oz (2 tbsps)
    -10 lbs x .9 =’s 9 ounces (18 tbsp’s)

    *Sure Gel Binder (per pound) = 2 tsp
    -10 lbs x 2 tsp’s = 20 tsp’s (3.33 ounces)

    *Sure Cure (per pound) = 1/4 tsp
    -10 lbs x 1/4 tsp = 2 1/2 tsp’s (.41 ounces)
    Can be mixed with/in the water

    *Encapsulated Citric Acid (per pound) = 1 tsp
    -10 lbs x 1 tsp = 10 tsp’s (1.66 ounces)
    LAST 45 seconds of mixing

    *High Temp Cheddar Cheese (per pound) = 1 pound
    -1 pound of cheese for every 10 lbs of meat
    LAST 45 seconds of mixing

    Stuffing…

    Fibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… soak in warm water prior to use
    Load Stuffer AVOIDING air pockets
    Stuff Casing FULL

    Cooking-Smoking Schedule…

    1 hr @ 115F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
    1 hr @ 125F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
    1 hr @ 125F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add Humidity (water & sponges)
    1 hr @ 140F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add ‘Smoke’ w/Humidity
    2 hrs @ 155F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Smoke & Humidity
    ? Hrs @ 175F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 140F - Remove to Sous Vide

    Sous Vide @ 170F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 160F - Approximately 1 Hour

    *Once the Summer Sausage has reached an internal temp of 160F, remove from the Sous Vide and place in an Ice Bath for 30 minutes

    *Remove Summer Sausage from Ice Bath and set out at ‘Room Temperature’ for 1 hour

    *After 1 hour @ Room Temperature, refrigerate the Summer Sausage ‘Over Night’

    *After ‘Refrigeration’… Ready for Freezing (and eating!) - Vacuum Seal

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    calldoctoday
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    Retired157 Very good, All in one place.

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    • Retired157R Retired157

      So, as was sitting here this morning, I decided that a good use of my time as I am waiting for all my ‘ingredients’ to arrive, would be to generate a document for myself that would GUIDE me through the ‘How To’ of the process I am using to make Summer Sausage. Now the first thing I should explain is that some… many… ok, maybe all of my friends say that I have a case of OCD; something I vehemently deny! Here’s what I’ve come up with. If anyone sees something that I have totally ‘screwed’ up, please let me know now. Many of you will recognize the fact that I tried to use a lot of the tips from this site and the MEATGISTIC folks and their videos.

      Note Here… Walton’s was ‘Out of Stock’ on their Sure Gel Binder so I am in a bit of a waiting pattern for that.

      Summer Sausage
      ‘The Process’

      Ingredients…

      10lbs of meat
      H-Summer
      Sure Gel Binder
      Sure Cure
      Encapsulated Citric Acid (accelerator)
      High Temp Cheese

      Water… 2 pints of water (=’s 2 lbs) per 25 lbs. 2 pints =’s 32 ounces
      32oz’s divided by 25 lbs =’s 1.28 ounces per pound of meat
      -10 lbs/meat x’s 1.28oz’s =’s 12.8 ounces of water… or .8 pounds

      Fibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… remember to soak in warm water for 30min’s to an hour BEFORE stuffing


      Grinding of Meat…

      Use a 80% to 20% ratio of ‘meat’ (deer/elk) to pork (Fat Back)… 8lbs of meat and 2lbs of Fat Back for a total of 10 lbs of meat.

      Grind meat twice… first with 3/8” (10mm) plate - second with 1/8” (3mm) plate. Remember to ‘lube/oil’ your plates & cutting knives. Be sure to cool all your grinding ‘parts’ in the freezer for several hours BEFORE beginning the overall process of grinding your meat. Your meat needs to be ‘very’ cold… near freezing.

      Mixing…

      Objective here is to get ‘High Protein Extraction’… get the meat Tacky/Sticky - Squeeze & Mix Method

      *H-Summer (per pound) = .9oz (2 tbsps)
      -10 lbs x .9 =’s 9 ounces (18 tbsp’s)

      *Sure Gel Binder (per pound) = 2 tsp
      -10 lbs x 2 tsp’s = 20 tsp’s (3.33 ounces)

      *Sure Cure (per pound) = 1/4 tsp
      -10 lbs x 1/4 tsp = 2 1/2 tsp’s (.41 ounces)
      Can be mixed with/in the water

      *Encapsulated Citric Acid (per pound) = 1 tsp
      -10 lbs x 1 tsp = 10 tsp’s (1.66 ounces)
      LAST 45 seconds of mixing

      *High Temp Cheddar Cheese (per pound) = 1 pound
      -1 pound of cheese for every 10 lbs of meat
      LAST 45 seconds of mixing

      Stuffing…

      Fibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… soak in warm water prior to use
      Load Stuffer AVOIDING air pockets
      Stuff Casing FULL

      Cooking-Smoking Schedule…

      1 hr @ 115F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
      1 hr @ 125F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
      1 hr @ 125F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add Humidity (water & sponges)
      1 hr @ 140F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add ‘Smoke’ w/Humidity
      2 hrs @ 155F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Smoke & Humidity
      ? Hrs @ 175F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 140F - Remove to Sous Vide

      Sous Vide @ 170F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 160F - Approximately 1 Hour

      *Once the Summer Sausage has reached an internal temp of 160F, remove from the Sous Vide and place in an Ice Bath for 30 minutes

      *Remove Summer Sausage from Ice Bath and set out at ‘Room Temperature’ for 1 hour

      *After 1 hour @ Room Temperature, refrigerate the Summer Sausage ‘Over Night’

      *After ‘Refrigeration’… Ready for Freezing (and eating!) - Vacuum Seal

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      johnsbrewhouse
      Team Blue Regular Contributors Traeger Power User Veteran Sous Vide Canning
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      Retired157 If the wait becomes to long for the Sure Gel and you find that you need it, I have a pound here in Washington and could send you what you need to make your sausage via the postal service.

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        Retired157 Very good, All in one place.

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        calldoctoday

        That was my goal!

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        • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

          Retired157 If the wait becomes to long for the Sure Gel and you find that you need it, I have a pound here in Washington and could send you what you need to make your sausage via the postal service.

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          Retired157
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          johnsbrewhouse

          Well THANKS! If it’s not available by the end of the month… I would certainly pay you for your troubles. I only need 3.33 ounces for my 10 pounds.

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          • Retired157R Retired157

            johnsbrewhouse

            Well THANKS! If it’s not available by the end of the month… I would certainly pay you for your troubles. I only need 3.33 ounces for my 10 pounds.

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            johnsbrewhouse
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            Retired157 I’m only 700 miles away, I actually know a girl I went to High school that lives in Great Falls. That was long while ago when I lived in Hawaii, 1977.

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            • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

              Retired157 I’m only 700 miles away, I actually know a girl I went to High school that lives in Great Falls. That was long while ago when I lived in Hawaii, 1977.

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              Retired157
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              johnsbrewhouse

              Hey, I see in looking at your ‘pic’, that your profile information comes up. I will check to see what all I included… and make sure that folks can get a hold of me if they wish. What do you know… we’re neighbors!

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                Retired157
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                Ok… got some info in there now. Still working on how to get a ‘pic’ to show up

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                  Retired157
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                  Got it! Starting to feel like a full member now.

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                  • Retired157R Retired157

                    Ok… got some info in there now. Still working on how to get a ‘pic’ to show up

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                    calldoctoday
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                    Retired157 You may have to reduce the size of your photos. I reduce mine across the board at 60% & it seems to work real well & still provide decent clarity & detail. I put mine in a particular file as well. Then you can just reduce the photo you want. The photo thing does not seem to work as well as it used to, but if you hit reply (instead of just doing a general post), then delete the handle you would be replying to, so it goes out as a general post. Take your reduced photo & move it or copy it to the reply box with the handle removed, wait a few seconds & presto, you should have a photo attached. Then hit submit.

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                    • Retired157R Retired157

                      Got it! Starting to feel like a full member now.

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                      johnsbrewhouse
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                      Retired157 Click on edit profile, then go to the upload picture button, that is the one on the left at the top of the banner on your page and you should be able to load a picture you have saved on your computer or device

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                        Retired157
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                        From what I can tell, it appears I was able to get a hunting pic in there…

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                        • Retired157R Retired157

                          From what I can tell, it appears I was able to get a hunting pic in there…

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                          johnsbrewhouse
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                          Retired157 Looks like you got everything on there

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                          • Retired157R Retired157

                            So, as was sitting here this morning, I decided that a good use of my time as I am waiting for all my ‘ingredients’ to arrive, would be to generate a document for myself that would GUIDE me through the ‘How To’ of the process I am using to make Summer Sausage. Now the first thing I should explain is that some… many… ok, maybe all of my friends say that I have a case of OCD; something I vehemently deny! Here’s what I’ve come up with. If anyone sees something that I have totally ‘screwed’ up, please let me know now. Many of you will recognize the fact that I tried to use a lot of the tips from this site and the MEATGISTIC folks and their videos.

                            Note Here… Walton’s was ‘Out of Stock’ on their Sure Gel Binder so I am in a bit of a waiting pattern for that.

                            Summer Sausage
                            ‘The Process’

                            Ingredients…

                            10lbs of meat
                            H-Summer
                            Sure Gel Binder
                            Sure Cure
                            Encapsulated Citric Acid (accelerator)
                            High Temp Cheese

                            Water… 2 pints of water (=’s 2 lbs) per 25 lbs. 2 pints =’s 32 ounces
                            32oz’s divided by 25 lbs =’s 1.28 ounces per pound of meat
                            -10 lbs/meat x’s 1.28oz’s =’s 12.8 ounces of water… or .8 pounds

                            Fibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… remember to soak in warm water for 30min’s to an hour BEFORE stuffing


                            Grinding of Meat…

                            Use a 80% to 20% ratio of ‘meat’ (deer/elk) to pork (Fat Back)… 8lbs of meat and 2lbs of Fat Back for a total of 10 lbs of meat.

                            Grind meat twice… first with 3/8” (10mm) plate - second with 1/8” (3mm) plate. Remember to ‘lube/oil’ your plates & cutting knives. Be sure to cool all your grinding ‘parts’ in the freezer for several hours BEFORE beginning the overall process of grinding your meat. Your meat needs to be ‘very’ cold… near freezing.

                            Mixing…

                            Objective here is to get ‘High Protein Extraction’… get the meat Tacky/Sticky - Squeeze & Mix Method

                            *H-Summer (per pound) = .9oz (2 tbsps)
                            -10 lbs x .9 =’s 9 ounces (18 tbsp’s)

                            *Sure Gel Binder (per pound) = 2 tsp
                            -10 lbs x 2 tsp’s = 20 tsp’s (3.33 ounces)

                            *Sure Cure (per pound) = 1/4 tsp
                            -10 lbs x 1/4 tsp = 2 1/2 tsp’s (.41 ounces)
                            Can be mixed with/in the water

                            *Encapsulated Citric Acid (per pound) = 1 tsp
                            -10 lbs x 1 tsp = 10 tsp’s (1.66 ounces)
                            LAST 45 seconds of mixing

                            *High Temp Cheddar Cheese (per pound) = 1 pound
                            -1 pound of cheese for every 10 lbs of meat
                            LAST 45 seconds of mixing

                            Stuffing…

                            Fibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… soak in warm water prior to use
                            Load Stuffer AVOIDING air pockets
                            Stuff Casing FULL

                            Cooking-Smoking Schedule…

                            1 hr @ 115F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
                            1 hr @ 125F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
                            1 hr @ 125F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add Humidity (water & sponges)
                            1 hr @ 140F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add ‘Smoke’ w/Humidity
                            2 hrs @ 155F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Smoke & Humidity
                            ? Hrs @ 175F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 140F - Remove to Sous Vide

                            Sous Vide @ 170F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 160F - Approximately 1 Hour

                            *Once the Summer Sausage has reached an internal temp of 160F, remove from the Sous Vide and place in an Ice Bath for 30 minutes

                            *Remove Summer Sausage from Ice Bath and set out at ‘Room Temperature’ for 1 hour

                            *After 1 hour @ Room Temperature, refrigerate the Summer Sausage ‘Over Night’

                            *After ‘Refrigeration’… Ready for Freezing (and eating!) - Vacuum Seal

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                            Retired157 said in Smoker Upgrade!:

                            Now the first thing I should explain is that some… many… ok, maybe all of my friends say that I have a case of OCD; something I vehemently deny!

                            Get it right. It’s CDO. They HAVE to be in alphabetical order. lol.

                            Nothing wrong with a written work plan. Following a written plan can help get consistent results and even the big meat processors do this. Actually, they are required to.

                            Paul

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                              smoker 1.jpg Just finished my large smoker using retired commercial refrigerator. Added an Auber PID controller, smoke Chief smoke generator, Internal convection fan and 1800 electric element in bottom. Ran a test cycle yesterday heats up quickly, holds heat great , good air flow and even heat throughout. Time to load it up to run a few batches of snack sticks. If I figured correctly should be able to hang 75 lbs at once.

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                                smoker 1.jpg Just finished my large smoker using retired commercial refrigerator. Added an Auber PID controller, smoke Chief smoke generator, Internal convection fan and 1800 electric element in bottom. Ran a test cycle yesterday heats up quickly, holds heat great , good air flow and even heat throughout. Time to load it up to run a few batches of snack sticks. If I figured correctly should be able to hang 75 lbs at once.

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                                mfrievalt

                                Very nice! What wattage of heating element are you using?

                                Paul

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                                  1800 watts which is the max wattage the Auber controller can handle.

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                                  • M mfrievalt

                                    smoker 1.jpg Just finished my large smoker using retired commercial refrigerator. Added an Auber PID controller, smoke Chief smoke generator, Internal convection fan and 1800 electric element in bottom. Ran a test cycle yesterday heats up quickly, holds heat great , good air flow and even heat throughout. Time to load it up to run a few batches of snack sticks. If I figured correctly should be able to hang 75 lbs at once.

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                                    mfrievalt Very Nice & looks like you can plan far into the future.

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                                      smoker 1.jpg Just finished my large smoker using retired commercial refrigerator. Added an Auber PID controller, smoke Chief smoke generator, Internal convection fan and 1800 electric element in bottom. Ran a test cycle yesterday heats up quickly, holds heat great , good air flow and even heat throughout. Time to load it up to run a few batches of snack sticks. If I figured correctly should be able to hang 75 lbs at once.

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                                      mfrievalt
                                      I will be interested to see your results with 75 lbs of sticks.

                                      I have experienced temperature stalls with large batches in a similar sized smoker with a 2400 watt element.

                                      Paul

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                                        Good info maybe I should start with 50 lbs first.

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                                          Retired157 said in Smoker Upgrade!:

                                          Now the first thing I should explain is that some… many… ok, maybe all of my friends say that I have a case of OCD; something I vehemently deny!

                                          Get it right. It’s CDO. They HAVE to be in alphabetical order. lol.

                                          Nothing wrong with a written work plan. Following a written plan can help get consistent results and even the big meat processors do this. Actually, they are required to.

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                                          processhead

                                          I’m sure ‘those’ folks out there with OCD do believe that CDO is more appropriate; present company excluded! lol

                                          A ‘written work plan’… I like it.

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