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Retired157 Great to hear your progress and look forward to seeing your success with SS. Keep us posted.
So, as was sitting here this morning, I decided that a good use of my time as I am waiting for all my ‘ingredients’ to arrive, would be to generate a document for myself that would GUIDE me through the ‘How To’ of the process I am using to make Summer Sausage. Now the first thing I should explain is that some… many… ok, maybe all of my friends say that I have a case of OCD; something I vehemently deny! Here’s what I’ve come up with. If anyone sees something that I have totally ‘screwed’ up, please let me know now. Many of you will recognize the fact that I tried to use a lot of the tips from this site and the MEATGISTIC folks and their videos.
Note Here… Walton’s was ‘Out of Stock’ on their Sure Gel Binder so I am in a bit of a waiting pattern for that.
Summer Sausage
‘The Process’Ingredients…
10lbs of meat
H-Summer
Sure Gel Binder
Sure Cure
Encapsulated Citric Acid (accelerator)
High Temp CheeseWater… 2 pints of water (=’s 2 lbs) per 25 lbs. 2 pints =’s 32 ounces
32oz’s divided by 25 lbs =’s 1.28 ounces per pound of meat
-10 lbs/meat x’s 1.28oz’s =’s 12.8 ounces of water… or .8 poundsFibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… remember to soak in warm water for 30min’s to an hour BEFORE stuffing
Grinding of Meat…
Use a 80% to 20% ratio of ‘meat’ (deer/elk) to pork (Fat Back)… 8lbs of meat and 2lbs of Fat Back for a total of 10 lbs of meat.
Grind meat twice… first with 3/8” (10mm) plate - second with 1/8” (3mm) plate. Remember to ‘lube/oil’ your plates & cutting knives. Be sure to cool all your grinding ‘parts’ in the freezer for several hours BEFORE beginning the overall process of grinding your meat. Your meat needs to be ‘very’ cold… near freezing.
Mixing…
Objective here is to get ‘High Protein Extraction’… get the meat Tacky/Sticky - Squeeze & Mix Method
*H-Summer (per pound) = .9oz (2 tbsps)
-10 lbs x .9 =’s 9 ounces (18 tbsp’s)*Sure Gel Binder (per pound) = 2 tsp
-10 lbs x 2 tsp’s = 20 tsp’s (3.33 ounces)*Sure Cure (per pound) = 1/4 tsp
-10 lbs x 1/4 tsp = 2 1/2 tsp’s (.41 ounces)
Can be mixed with/in the water*Encapsulated Citric Acid (per pound) = 1 tsp
-10 lbs x 1 tsp = 10 tsp’s (1.66 ounces)
LAST 45 seconds of mixing*High Temp Cheddar Cheese (per pound) = 1 pound
-1 pound of cheese for every 10 lbs of meat
LAST 45 seconds of mixingStuffing…
Fibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… soak in warm water prior to use
Load Stuffer AVOIDING air pockets
Stuff Casing FULLCooking-Smoking Schedule…
1 hr @ 115F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
1 hr @ 125F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
1 hr @ 125F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add Humidity (water & sponges)
1 hr @ 140F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add ‘Smoke’ w/Humidity
2 hrs @ 155F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Smoke & Humidity
? Hrs @ 175F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 140F - Remove to Sous VideSous Vide @ 170F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 160F - Approximately 1 Hour
*Once the Summer Sausage has reached an internal temp of 160F, remove from the Sous Vide and place in an Ice Bath for 30 minutes
*Remove Summer Sausage from Ice Bath and set out at ‘Room Temperature’ for 1 hour
*After 1 hour @ Room Temperature, refrigerate the Summer Sausage ‘Over Night’
*After ‘Refrigeration’… Ready for Freezing (and eating!) - Vacuum Seal
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So, as was sitting here this morning, I decided that a good use of my time as I am waiting for all my ‘ingredients’ to arrive, would be to generate a document for myself that would GUIDE me through the ‘How To’ of the process I am using to make Summer Sausage. Now the first thing I should explain is that some… many… ok, maybe all of my friends say that I have a case of OCD; something I vehemently deny! Here’s what I’ve come up with. If anyone sees something that I have totally ‘screwed’ up, please let me know now. Many of you will recognize the fact that I tried to use a lot of the tips from this site and the MEATGISTIC folks and their videos.
Note Here… Walton’s was ‘Out of Stock’ on their Sure Gel Binder so I am in a bit of a waiting pattern for that.
Summer Sausage
‘The Process’Ingredients…
10lbs of meat
H-Summer
Sure Gel Binder
Sure Cure
Encapsulated Citric Acid (accelerator)
High Temp CheeseWater… 2 pints of water (=’s 2 lbs) per 25 lbs. 2 pints =’s 32 ounces
32oz’s divided by 25 lbs =’s 1.28 ounces per pound of meat
-10 lbs/meat x’s 1.28oz’s =’s 12.8 ounces of water… or .8 poundsFibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… remember to soak in warm water for 30min’s to an hour BEFORE stuffing
Grinding of Meat…
Use a 80% to 20% ratio of ‘meat’ (deer/elk) to pork (Fat Back)… 8lbs of meat and 2lbs of Fat Back for a total of 10 lbs of meat.
Grind meat twice… first with 3/8” (10mm) plate - second with 1/8” (3mm) plate. Remember to ‘lube/oil’ your plates & cutting knives. Be sure to cool all your grinding ‘parts’ in the freezer for several hours BEFORE beginning the overall process of grinding your meat. Your meat needs to be ‘very’ cold… near freezing.
Mixing…
Objective here is to get ‘High Protein Extraction’… get the meat Tacky/Sticky - Squeeze & Mix Method
*H-Summer (per pound) = .9oz (2 tbsps)
-10 lbs x .9 =’s 9 ounces (18 tbsp’s)*Sure Gel Binder (per pound) = 2 tsp
-10 lbs x 2 tsp’s = 20 tsp’s (3.33 ounces)*Sure Cure (per pound) = 1/4 tsp
-10 lbs x 1/4 tsp = 2 1/2 tsp’s (.41 ounces)
Can be mixed with/in the water*Encapsulated Citric Acid (per pound) = 1 tsp
-10 lbs x 1 tsp = 10 tsp’s (1.66 ounces)
LAST 45 seconds of mixing*High Temp Cheddar Cheese (per pound) = 1 pound
-1 pound of cheese for every 10 lbs of meat
LAST 45 seconds of mixingStuffing…
Fibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… soak in warm water prior to use
Load Stuffer AVOIDING air pockets
Stuff Casing FULLCooking-Smoking Schedule…
1 hr @ 115F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
1 hr @ 125F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
1 hr @ 125F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add Humidity (water & sponges)
1 hr @ 140F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add ‘Smoke’ w/Humidity
2 hrs @ 155F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Smoke & Humidity
? Hrs @ 175F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 140F - Remove to Sous VideSous Vide @ 170F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 160F - Approximately 1 Hour
*Once the Summer Sausage has reached an internal temp of 160F, remove from the Sous Vide and place in an Ice Bath for 30 minutes
*Remove Summer Sausage from Ice Bath and set out at ‘Room Temperature’ for 1 hour
*After 1 hour @ Room Temperature, refrigerate the Summer Sausage ‘Over Night’
*After ‘Refrigeration’… Ready for Freezing (and eating!) - Vacuum Seal
Retired157 Very good, All in one place.
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So, as was sitting here this morning, I decided that a good use of my time as I am waiting for all my ‘ingredients’ to arrive, would be to generate a document for myself that would GUIDE me through the ‘How To’ of the process I am using to make Summer Sausage. Now the first thing I should explain is that some… many… ok, maybe all of my friends say that I have a case of OCD; something I vehemently deny! Here’s what I’ve come up with. If anyone sees something that I have totally ‘screwed’ up, please let me know now. Many of you will recognize the fact that I tried to use a lot of the tips from this site and the MEATGISTIC folks and their videos.
Note Here… Walton’s was ‘Out of Stock’ on their Sure Gel Binder so I am in a bit of a waiting pattern for that.
Summer Sausage
‘The Process’Ingredients…
10lbs of meat
H-Summer
Sure Gel Binder
Sure Cure
Encapsulated Citric Acid (accelerator)
High Temp CheeseWater… 2 pints of water (=’s 2 lbs) per 25 lbs. 2 pints =’s 32 ounces
32oz’s divided by 25 lbs =’s 1.28 ounces per pound of meat
-10 lbs/meat x’s 1.28oz’s =’s 12.8 ounces of water… or .8 poundsFibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… remember to soak in warm water for 30min’s to an hour BEFORE stuffing
Grinding of Meat…
Use a 80% to 20% ratio of ‘meat’ (deer/elk) to pork (Fat Back)… 8lbs of meat and 2lbs of Fat Back for a total of 10 lbs of meat.
Grind meat twice… first with 3/8” (10mm) plate - second with 1/8” (3mm) plate. Remember to ‘lube/oil’ your plates & cutting knives. Be sure to cool all your grinding ‘parts’ in the freezer for several hours BEFORE beginning the overall process of grinding your meat. Your meat needs to be ‘very’ cold… near freezing.
Mixing…
Objective here is to get ‘High Protein Extraction’… get the meat Tacky/Sticky - Squeeze & Mix Method
*H-Summer (per pound) = .9oz (2 tbsps)
-10 lbs x .9 =’s 9 ounces (18 tbsp’s)*Sure Gel Binder (per pound) = 2 tsp
-10 lbs x 2 tsp’s = 20 tsp’s (3.33 ounces)*Sure Cure (per pound) = 1/4 tsp
-10 lbs x 1/4 tsp = 2 1/2 tsp’s (.41 ounces)
Can be mixed with/in the water*Encapsulated Citric Acid (per pound) = 1 tsp
-10 lbs x 1 tsp = 10 tsp’s (1.66 ounces)
LAST 45 seconds of mixing*High Temp Cheddar Cheese (per pound) = 1 pound
-1 pound of cheese for every 10 lbs of meat
LAST 45 seconds of mixingStuffing…
Fibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… soak in warm water prior to use
Load Stuffer AVOIDING air pockets
Stuff Casing FULLCooking-Smoking Schedule…
1 hr @ 115F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
1 hr @ 125F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
1 hr @ 125F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add Humidity (water & sponges)
1 hr @ 140F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add ‘Smoke’ w/Humidity
2 hrs @ 155F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Smoke & Humidity
? Hrs @ 175F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 140F - Remove to Sous VideSous Vide @ 170F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 160F - Approximately 1 Hour
*Once the Summer Sausage has reached an internal temp of 160F, remove from the Sous Vide and place in an Ice Bath for 30 minutes
*Remove Summer Sausage from Ice Bath and set out at ‘Room Temperature’ for 1 hour
*After 1 hour @ Room Temperature, refrigerate the Summer Sausage ‘Over Night’
*After ‘Refrigeration’… Ready for Freezing (and eating!) - Vacuum Seal
Retired157 If the wait becomes to long for the Sure Gel and you find that you need it, I have a pound here in Washington and could send you what you need to make your sausage via the postal service.
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Retired157 Very good, All in one place.
That was my goal!
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Retired157 If the wait becomes to long for the Sure Gel and you find that you need it, I have a pound here in Washington and could send you what you need to make your sausage via the postal service.
Well THANKS! If it’s not available by the end of the month… I would certainly pay you for your troubles. I only need 3.33 ounces for my 10 pounds.
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Well THANKS! If it’s not available by the end of the month… I would certainly pay you for your troubles. I only need 3.33 ounces for my 10 pounds.
Retired157 I’m only 700 miles away, I actually know a girl I went to High school that lives in Great Falls. That was long while ago when I lived in Hawaii, 1977.
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Retired157 I’m only 700 miles away, I actually know a girl I went to High school that lives in Great Falls. That was long while ago when I lived in Hawaii, 1977.
Hey, I see in looking at your ‘pic’, that your profile information comes up. I will check to see what all I included… and make sure that folks can get a hold of me if they wish. What do you know… we’re neighbors!
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Ok… got some info in there now. Still working on how to get a ‘pic’ to show up
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Ok… got some info in there now. Still working on how to get a ‘pic’ to show up
Retired157 You may have to reduce the size of your photos. I reduce mine across the board at 60% & it seems to work real well & still provide decent clarity & detail. I put mine in a particular file as well. Then you can just reduce the photo you want. The photo thing does not seem to work as well as it used to, but if you hit reply (instead of just doing a general post), then delete the handle you would be replying to, so it goes out as a general post. Take your reduced photo & move it or copy it to the reply box with the handle removed, wait a few seconds & presto, you should have a photo attached. Then hit submit.
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Got it! Starting to feel like a full member now.
Retired157 Click on edit profile, then go to the upload picture button, that is the one on the left at the top of the banner on your page and you should be able to load a picture you have saved on your computer or device
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From what I can tell, it appears I was able to get a hunting pic in there…
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From what I can tell, it appears I was able to get a hunting pic in there…
Retired157 Looks like you got everything on there
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So, as was sitting here this morning, I decided that a good use of my time as I am waiting for all my ‘ingredients’ to arrive, would be to generate a document for myself that would GUIDE me through the ‘How To’ of the process I am using to make Summer Sausage. Now the first thing I should explain is that some… many… ok, maybe all of my friends say that I have a case of OCD; something I vehemently deny! Here’s what I’ve come up with. If anyone sees something that I have totally ‘screwed’ up, please let me know now. Many of you will recognize the fact that I tried to use a lot of the tips from this site and the MEATGISTIC folks and their videos.
Note Here… Walton’s was ‘Out of Stock’ on their Sure Gel Binder so I am in a bit of a waiting pattern for that.
Summer Sausage
‘The Process’Ingredients…
10lbs of meat
H-Summer
Sure Gel Binder
Sure Cure
Encapsulated Citric Acid (accelerator)
High Temp CheeseWater… 2 pints of water (=’s 2 lbs) per 25 lbs. 2 pints =’s 32 ounces
32oz’s divided by 25 lbs =’s 1.28 ounces per pound of meat
-10 lbs/meat x’s 1.28oz’s =’s 12.8 ounces of water… or .8 poundsFibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… remember to soak in warm water for 30min’s to an hour BEFORE stuffing
Grinding of Meat…
Use a 80% to 20% ratio of ‘meat’ (deer/elk) to pork (Fat Back)… 8lbs of meat and 2lbs of Fat Back for a total of 10 lbs of meat.
Grind meat twice… first with 3/8” (10mm) plate - second with 1/8” (3mm) plate. Remember to ‘lube/oil’ your plates & cutting knives. Be sure to cool all your grinding ‘parts’ in the freezer for several hours BEFORE beginning the overall process of grinding your meat. Your meat needs to be ‘very’ cold… near freezing.
Mixing…
Objective here is to get ‘High Protein Extraction’… get the meat Tacky/Sticky - Squeeze & Mix Method
*H-Summer (per pound) = .9oz (2 tbsps)
-10 lbs x .9 =’s 9 ounces (18 tbsp’s)*Sure Gel Binder (per pound) = 2 tsp
-10 lbs x 2 tsp’s = 20 tsp’s (3.33 ounces)*Sure Cure (per pound) = 1/4 tsp
-10 lbs x 1/4 tsp = 2 1/2 tsp’s (.41 ounces)
Can be mixed with/in the water*Encapsulated Citric Acid (per pound) = 1 tsp
-10 lbs x 1 tsp = 10 tsp’s (1.66 ounces)
LAST 45 seconds of mixing*High Temp Cheddar Cheese (per pound) = 1 pound
-1 pound of cheese for every 10 lbs of meat
LAST 45 seconds of mixingStuffing…
Fibrous Casings / Pre-Stuck… soak in warm water prior to use
Load Stuffer AVOIDING air pockets
Stuff Casing FULLCooking-Smoking Schedule…
1 hr @ 115F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
1 hr @ 125F… Drying Process - Open Vents / Air Flow - No Humidity - Smoke
1 hr @ 125F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add Humidity (water & sponges)
1 hr @ 140F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Add ‘Smoke’ w/Humidity
2 hrs @ 155F… Adjusting Vents w/Air Flow - Smoke & Humidity
? Hrs @ 175F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 140F - Remove to Sous VideSous Vide @ 170F… Until Internal Temp of Meat Reaches 160F - Approximately 1 Hour
*Once the Summer Sausage has reached an internal temp of 160F, remove from the Sous Vide and place in an Ice Bath for 30 minutes
*Remove Summer Sausage from Ice Bath and set out at ‘Room Temperature’ for 1 hour
*After 1 hour @ Room Temperature, refrigerate the Summer Sausage ‘Over Night’
*After ‘Refrigeration’… Ready for Freezing (and eating!) - Vacuum Seal
Retired157 said in Smoker Upgrade!:
Now the first thing I should explain is that some… many… ok, maybe all of my friends say that I have a case of OCD; something I vehemently deny!
Get it right. It’s CDO. They HAVE to be in alphabetical order. lol.
Nothing wrong with a written work plan. Following a written plan can help get consistent results and even the big meat processors do this. Actually, they are required to.
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Just finished my large smoker using retired commercial refrigerator. Added an Auber PID controller, smoke Chief smoke generator, Internal convection fan and 1800 electric element in bottom. Ran a test cycle yesterday heats up quickly, holds heat great , good air flow and even heat throughout. Time to load it up to run a few batches of snack sticks. If I figured correctly should be able to hang 75 lbs at once. -
Just finished my large smoker using retired commercial refrigerator. Added an Auber PID controller, smoke Chief smoke generator, Internal convection fan and 1800 electric element in bottom. Ran a test cycle yesterday heats up quickly, holds heat great , good air flow and even heat throughout. Time to load it up to run a few batches of snack sticks. If I figured correctly should be able to hang 75 lbs at once.
Very nice! What wattage of heating element are you using?
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Just finished my large smoker using retired commercial refrigerator. Added an Auber PID controller, smoke Chief smoke generator, Internal convection fan and 1800 electric element in bottom. Ran a test cycle yesterday heats up quickly, holds heat great , good air flow and even heat throughout. Time to load it up to run a few batches of snack sticks. If I figured correctly should be able to hang 75 lbs at once.
mfrievalt Very Nice & looks like you can plan far into the future.
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Just finished my large smoker using retired commercial refrigerator. Added an Auber PID controller, smoke Chief smoke generator, Internal convection fan and 1800 electric element in bottom. Ran a test cycle yesterday heats up quickly, holds heat great , good air flow and even heat throughout. Time to load it up to run a few batches of snack sticks. If I figured correctly should be able to hang 75 lbs at once.
mfrievalt
I will be interested to see your results with 75 lbs of sticks.I have experienced temperature stalls with large batches in a similar sized smoker with a 2400 watt element.
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