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  • PapaSopP Offline
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    I followed the link JohnG5 speaks of. Worked great.

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    • J JohnG5

      Here is the Meatgistcis University class on Bacon Basics that could serve as a good reference. https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/800/cured-whole-muscle-meat-104-bacon-basics

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      JohnG5 Thanks John, that will keep me from having to search.

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        I like to cure in vacuum bags. I use basic cure ratio of 2.5% salt, 1.0% sugar and .25% curing salt for 7 days. All other flavors are optional and encouraged.

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          #24

          I like the dry cure method because its pretty bullet proof. If you can read a scale to accurately weigh the dry ingredients and the belly, its going to turn out good.

          Paul

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            Dry rub Bacon
            Sugar - 1.5%
            Salt - 2.25%
            Cure #1 - 2.5g/1,000g meat
            Cure 1 week for every 1" of depth of belly

            Add any other spices or herbs as you desire, remove skin if your belly has it and rub mixture onto meat surfaces to coat as evenly as possible, do not worry about fat side. Put meat into vacuum bag or zip lock bag and put into refrigerator for time as required turning daily.

            Once cured take out of bag and rinse in water put back into refrigerator uncovered for 24 hours to dry surface. Cold smoke <90f for 20-120 minutes in apple or hickory smoke, remove and seal in bag put in refrigerator for 2-3 days and then either cook or freeze and enjoy.

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            • B bocephus

              johnsbrewhouse I thought you put it into refrigerator overnight to form pellicle so the smoke adheres better.

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              bocephus Never had a problem going directly to the smoker with my bacon. The smoke will adhere just fine and penetrates well too. Here’s a picture of three slabs from a couple of years ago that went straight from the bags to the smoker not even fully patted dry.IMG_0078.JPG

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              • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

                bocephus Never had a problem going directly to the smoker with my bacon. The smoke will adhere just fine and penetrates well too. Here’s a picture of three slabs from a couple of years ago that went straight from the bags to the smoker not even fully patted dry.IMG_0078.JPG

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                johnsbrewhouse Great looking bacon, thanks.

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                  JohnG5 Thanks John, that will keep me from having to search.

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                  bocephus you got this. Like PapaSop said that link spells it out. After I read the comments, I just made sure I did an extra rinse after the soak to make sure it wasn’t too salty. I love salt and did not think it was to salty at all. Have fun with it.

                  “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                  • GWG8541G GWG8541

                    bocephus you got this. Like PapaSop said that link spells it out. After I read the comments, I just made sure I did an extra rinse after the soak to make sure it wasn’t too salty. I love salt and did not think it was to salty at all. Have fun with it.

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                    GWG8541 I will be sure to double rinse as I have cut a lot of salt out of diet and now things taste too salty. Bacon definitely has to have some salt flavor though.

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                      Use the EQ method. Unless it is a real thick 14 days seems a normal time. Using the eq method it doesn’t matter if it goes over time. No rinse required.
                      Basic bacon is Salt, sugar, and cure. Use eq calculator to figure your measurements. Have a scale that measures in small gram amounts. Rub cure evenly over entire belly and vac seal or in a zip lock bag. Can out on jalapeño powder at this point or before smoking or both. Put in fridge for 14 days turning bag over and giving a quick massage daily. Take out pat dry and back into fridge on a wire rack for a day or two to dry out. Then cold smoke or hot smoke to 145. Let rest in fridge for another day or two or more.
                      Slice and enjoy.
                      Once again this is just quick overview of the basics

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                      • Randie NR Randie N

                        Use the EQ method. Unless it is a real thick 14 days seems a normal time. Using the eq method it doesn’t matter if it goes over time. No rinse required.
                        Basic bacon is Salt, sugar, and cure. Use eq calculator to figure your measurements. Have a scale that measures in small gram amounts. Rub cure evenly over entire belly and vac seal or in a zip lock bag. Can out on jalapeño powder at this point or before smoking or both. Put in fridge for 14 days turning bag over and giving a quick massage daily. Take out pat dry and back into fridge on a wire rack for a day or two to dry out. Then cold smoke or hot smoke to 145. Let rest in fridge for another day or two or more.
                        Slice and enjoy.
                        Once again this is just quick overview of the basics

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                        How do I post a pic in a reply?

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                        • Randie NR Randie N

                          How do I post a pic in a reply?

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                          #32

                          Finally let me.
                          Here is regular bacon and “canadian” bacon curing

                          20210730_130428.jpg

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                          • Randie NR Randie N

                            Finally let me.
                            Here is regular bacon and “canadian” bacon curing

                            20210730_130428.jpg

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                            @randie-nulph Looks like the smoker is soon to be very busy.

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                            • Randie NR Randie N

                              Finally let me.
                              Here is regular bacon and “canadian” bacon curing

                              20210730_130428.jpg

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                              #34

                              Here is some of it hot smoked. Can’t find pics of the cold smoked.

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                              • Randie NR Randie N

                                Here is some of it hot smoked. Can’t find pics of the cold smoked.

                                20210921_161939.jpg

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                                #35

                                lkrfletcher here is something else you can do with some of the belly. Make Pork belly burnt ends or cure and make bacon burnt ends
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                                • Randie NR Randie N

                                  lkrfletcher here is something else you can do with some of the belly. Make Pork belly burnt ends or cure and make bacon burnt ends
                                  20210531_170944.jpg

                                  20210531_193547.jpg

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                                  Randie N The burnt ends look really good.

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                                    For the dry EQ method, would honey be 1:1 replacement for sugar or would the liquid honey necessitate an adjustment somewhere

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                                    • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

                                      I was able to find a 10 lb pork belly. As I have never made bacon before, but have been inspired to try by this community, I am wondering if I can get a basic rundown of the process.

                                      1. Which cure to buy?
                                      2. Qty of cure to water for 10 lb.
                                      3. Soak time?
                                      4. Some time?
                                      5. Is there a way to incorporate Jalapeño flavor? At what step would this take place?
                                      6. Any other tips - like slicing -
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                                      mrobisr
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                                      #38

                                      lkrfletcher 20211127_204509.jpg
                                      Just pulled mine out of the vac bags to dry, tomorrow they get a bath in cold apple wood smoke.

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                                      • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

                                        I was able to find a 10 lb pork belly. As I have never made bacon before, but have been inspired to try by this community, I am wondering if I can get a basic rundown of the process.

                                        1. Which cure to buy?
                                        2. Qty of cure to water for 10 lb.
                                        3. Soak time?
                                        4. Some time?
                                        5. Is there a way to incorporate Jalapeño flavor? At what step would this take place?
                                        6. Any other tips - like slicing -
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                                        #39

                                        lkrfletcher LEM makes a jalapeño bacon cure. I have done their original dry rub and was very pleased with the flavor. I’ve made bacon commercially in wet brine with shop made recipes, but I really like the convenience of dry brine at home.

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                                        • Randie NR Randie N

                                          lkrfletcher here is something else you can do with some of the belly. Make Pork belly burnt ends or cure and make bacon burnt ends
                                          20210531_170944.jpg

                                          20210531_193547.jpg

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                                          Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
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                                          Randie N Nuthin’ wrong with a little bit of bacon burnt ends. Looks pretty darn G-U-D, good!

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