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    knifemaker3
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    Cure #1 using a dry rub method. Amounts of cure, salt, and brown sugar used determined via digging dog farms cure calculator. Rub belly, put in bag, cure 1 day per 1/4” of meat thickness at thickest point. Add 2 more days for good measure to the cure. Rinse pat dry and let dry overnight in fridge then smoke @150-175 for at least 4 hrs or until internal temperature is 130 degrees. Slice cold and be sure to cook before eating.

    Haven’t found a need to add other flavors so can’t help there

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      lkrfletcher I am interested in this, bacon is on my to do list. I have been following quite a few posts and it doesn’t seem to be as daunting a task as I thought. One of the keys I think is good rinse after soaking and dry well and refrigerate overnight before smoking.

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      johnsbrewhouse
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      bocephus You don’t need to refrigerate it overnight before smoking, you can go directly into the smoker after drying. It will be ready to go and take smoke well. Refrigerate well after smoking for ease of slicing, the colder the better. It’s not hard to make bacon at all, just remembering to turn the bag is the worse part.

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        bocephus Yeah it is a $900 slicer new, I picked it up for $400. That’s the best deal on something that I’ve come across. I’d love to find one of those SS warming cabinets to convert into a massive smoker, like I’ve seen on here, although I am contemplating building a dedicated wood smoke house. I want to build my wife a sauna and thought I’d just build a smoke house off of the back of it, while I’m pouring the concrete and buying the materials, may as well just add several hundred in materials and knock it all out in one build!

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        RafterW Now that is thinking, keep the wife happy and get something out of it for you.

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        • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

          bocephus You don’t need to refrigerate it overnight before smoking, you can go directly into the smoker after drying. It will be ready to go and take smoke well. Refrigerate well after smoking for ease of slicing, the colder the better. It’s not hard to make bacon at all, just remembering to turn the bag is the worse part.

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          bocephus
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          johnsbrewhouse I thought you put it into refrigerator overnight to form pellicle so the smoke adheres better.

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            johnsbrewhouse I thought you put it into refrigerator overnight to form pellicle so the smoke adheres better.

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            RafterW
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            bocephus said in Basic bacon rundown please:

            johnsbrewhouse I thought you put it into refrigerator overnight to form pellicle so the smoke adheres better.

            You can put it in the fridge to help form that pellicle, I do this if I have time. I’ve skipped it before and just patted it dry with paper towels then got it in the smoker, it turned out the same, as far as I could tell.

            Matt W.

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            • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

              I was able to find a 10 lb pork belly. As I have never made bacon before, but have been inspired to try by this community, I am wondering if I can get a basic rundown of the process.

              1. Which cure to buy?
              2. Qty of cure to water for 10 lb.
              3. Soak time?
              4. Some time?
              5. Is there a way to incorporate Jalapeño flavor? At what step would this take place?
              6. Any other tips - like slicing -
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              ND Mike
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              lkrfletcher this is a great post. I will follow this one as I am in the same boat as you!

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                bocephus said in Basic bacon rundown please:

                johnsbrewhouse I thought you put it into refrigerator overnight to form pellicle so the smoke adheres better.

                You can put it in the fridge to help form that pellicle, I do this if I have time. I’ve skipped it before and just patted it dry with paper towels then got it in the smoker, it turned out the same, as far as I could tell.

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                RafterW Thanks, like I said I have never made bacon and am trying to get all info I can. Have made ground venison bacon but definitely not the same process.

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                  RafterW
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                  bocephus It really isn’t that daunting of a task, I know it seems to be. I cut up a belly into roughly thirds, sometimes in half depending on the overall length of the belly and put them in 2G ziplocks to cure. It is well worth making your own, you can’t buy anything as good from the stores and it makes a great gift for around the holidays. I put in several pounds at our family chrismas gift exchange each year. I’ll be making a batch after thanksgiving.

                  Matt W.

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                  • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

                    I was able to find a 10 lb pork belly. As I have never made bacon before, but have been inspired to try by this community, I am wondering if I can get a basic rundown of the process.

                    1. Which cure to buy?
                    2. Qty of cure to water for 10 lb.
                    3. Soak time?
                    4. Some time?
                    5. Is there a way to incorporate Jalapeño flavor? At what step would this take place?
                    6. Any other tips - like slicing -
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                    YooperDog
                    Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
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                    lkrfletcher Go for it!!! Expand your comfort and knowledge zone. I have been using a rub cure to do my bellies and have started leaning towards a brine. Develop your basic recipe and build from there. I like to add additions while it dries in the fridge, maybe some coarse ground black pepper, a dusting some hot pepper or flakes, etc. You can add some brown sugar on the slices as they bake in the oven if you want to candy them a bit. I slice like johnsbrewhouse since I am not happy with my current slicer. My .02¢

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                      Here is the Meatgistcis University class on Bacon Basics that could serve as a good reference. https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/800/cured-whole-muscle-meat-104-bacon-basics

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                      • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

                        I was able to find a 10 lb pork belly. As I have never made bacon before, but have been inspired to try by this community, I am wondering if I can get a basic rundown of the process.

                        1. Which cure to buy?
                        2. Qty of cure to water for 10 lb.
                        3. Soak time?
                        4. Some time?
                        5. Is there a way to incorporate Jalapeño flavor? At what step would this take place?
                        6. Any other tips - like slicing -
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                        GWG8541
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                        lkrfletcher I’ve only done the dry cure, but man was it fun, easy and tasty. I added black pepper right before the smoke. I would think that would work for you as well. Keep us informed on the outcome.

                        “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                          I followed the link JohnG5 speaks of. Worked great.

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                            Here is the Meatgistcis University class on Bacon Basics that could serve as a good reference. https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/800/cured-whole-muscle-meat-104-bacon-basics

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                            bocephus
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                            JohnG5 Thanks John, that will keep me from having to search.

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                              I like to cure in vacuum bags. I use basic cure ratio of 2.5% salt, 1.0% sugar and .25% curing salt for 7 days. All other flavors are optional and encouraged.

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                                processhead
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                                I like the dry cure method because its pretty bullet proof. If you can read a scale to accurately weigh the dry ingredients and the belly, its going to turn out good.

                                Paul

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                                  mrobisr
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                                  Dry rub Bacon
                                  Sugar - 1.5%
                                  Salt - 2.25%
                                  Cure #1 - 2.5g/1,000g meat
                                  Cure 1 week for every 1" of depth of belly

                                  Add any other spices or herbs as you desire, remove skin if your belly has it and rub mixture onto meat surfaces to coat as evenly as possible, do not worry about fat side. Put meat into vacuum bag or zip lock bag and put into refrigerator for time as required turning daily.

                                  Once cured take out of bag and rinse in water put back into refrigerator uncovered for 24 hours to dry surface. Cold smoke <90f for 20-120 minutes in apple or hickory smoke, remove and seal in bag put in refrigerator for 2-3 days and then either cook or freeze and enjoy.

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                                  • B bocephus

                                    johnsbrewhouse I thought you put it into refrigerator overnight to form pellicle so the smoke adheres better.

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                                    johnsbrewhouse
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                                    bocephus Never had a problem going directly to the smoker with my bacon. The smoke will adhere just fine and penetrates well too. Here’s a picture of three slabs from a couple of years ago that went straight from the bags to the smoker not even fully patted dry.IMG_0078.JPG

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                                    • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

                                      bocephus Never had a problem going directly to the smoker with my bacon. The smoke will adhere just fine and penetrates well too. Here’s a picture of three slabs from a couple of years ago that went straight from the bags to the smoker not even fully patted dry.IMG_0078.JPG

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                                      bocephus
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                                      johnsbrewhouse Great looking bacon, thanks.

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                                        JohnG5 Thanks John, that will keep me from having to search.

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                                        bocephus you got this. Like PapaSop said that link spells it out. After I read the comments, I just made sure I did an extra rinse after the soak to make sure it wasn’t too salty. I love salt and did not think it was to salty at all. Have fun with it.

                                        “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                                          bocephus you got this. Like PapaSop said that link spells it out. After I read the comments, I just made sure I did an extra rinse after the soak to make sure it wasn’t too salty. I love salt and did not think it was to salty at all. Have fun with it.

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                                          GWG8541 I will be sure to double rinse as I have cut a lot of salt out of diet and now things taste too salty. Bacon definitely has to have some salt flavor though.

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