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  • JonathonJ Offline
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    Jonathon
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    shoprat53 We just sampled another companies |Encapsulated-Citric-Acid and it is way finer than ours, meaning it could take less. Also, we recommend a higher % than most places, 4 oz to 25 instead of 3 oz because in our experience, commercial customers almost always add 1 lb to 100 lb of meat instead of 12 oz to 100 lb of meat.

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      Dr_Pain
      Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
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      #10

      Very handy little chart there!!

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        shoprat53
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        I just always figure 3 tsp to A table spoon that is were I get the 1 tho and 2 tsp.

        Donald glass

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        • S shoprat53

          I just always figure 3 tsp to A table spoon that is were I get the 1 tho and 2 tsp.

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          johnsbrewhouse
          Team Blue Regular Contributors Traeger Power User Veteran Sous Vide Canning
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          shoprat53 You are correct, there are 3 tsp in 1 TBSP

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            shoprat53
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            So 5 pounds at A tsp. per pound would be 1 Tbl. And 2 Tsp. Not 2 Tho spoons.

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            • S shoprat53

              So 5 pounds at A tsp. per pound would be 1 Tbl. And 2 Tsp. Not 2 Tho spoons.

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              johnsbrewhouse
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              #14

              shoprat53 That is where I would calculate it at if I were measuring it by tsp. I use grams or ounces when I calculate, you get a better measurement and the chart is much more accurate with that. By weight 22.5 grams or .80 ounces.

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                shoprat53
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                Not saying it is more accurate just saying if you are going to give measurements in Tbl. and Tsp. then be consistent. 1 Tsp. Per pound does not work out to 2 Tbl. For A 5 pound batch of snack sticks or cured sausage.

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                • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

                  shoprat53 That is where I would calculate it at if I were measuring it by tsp. I use grams or ounces when I calculate, you get a better measurement and the chart is much more accurate with that. By weight 22.5 grams or .80 ounces.

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                  marzig20
                  Veteran Sous Vide Canning
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                  johnsbrewhouse Professional bakers always measure critical dry ingredients by weight. There can be a large variation measuring by volume. I always scale my dry ingredients when reducing for small batches.

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                  • marzig20M marzig20

                    johnsbrewhouse Professional bakers always measure critical dry ingredients by weight. There can be a large variation measuring by volume. I always scale my dry ingredients when reducing for small batches.

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                    johnsbrewhouse
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                    #17

                    marzig20 I always convert mine to grams anymore, much more precise for the scale. I also break down the ingredients measurements myself, rather than using the chart most of the time. The chart is quick, but I like doing the math to make sure.

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                    • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

                      marzig20 I always convert mine to grams anymore, much more precise for the scale. I also break down the ingredients measurements myself, rather than using the chart most of the time. The chart is quick, but I like doing the math to make sure.

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                      Dr_Pain
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                      johnsbrewhouse HAAHHAHA ! Death to the tyranic imperial system

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                      • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                        johnsbrewhouse HAAHHAHA ! Death to the tyranic imperial system

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                        Dr_Pain That’s funny!!

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                        • JonathonJ Jonathon
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                          Have you ever bought some of Walton's seasoning, but didn't want to make a full 25 lb batch? Well, we have made things simpler now and you can quickly and easily measure out how much seasoning to use for smaller 1 lb or 5 lb batches. The best way to measure out seasonings-cures-additives is with a very accurate scale, if you do not have access to a scale that weighs in fractions of oz or in grams then you can use the volume measurements we have provided as a guideline.
                          Seasoning SKU Usage per 1 lb Meat Volume (Weight) Usage per 5 lb Meat Volume (Weight)
                          Bacon Taste Booster 4560430072 1/3 tsp (.04 oz / 1.1 g) 1.5 tsp (.25 oz / 7 g)
                          Carrot Binder 4570501200 1 tbsp & 2 tsp (.16oz / 4.5 g) .5 Cups (0.8 oz / 22.6 g)
                          Cold Phosphate 4570710002 1/2 tsp (.08 oz / 2.2 g) 3 tsp (0.4 oz / 11.3 g)
                          Dextrose 4570130021 1 tsp (0.1 oz / 2.8 g) 1 tbsp and 2 tsp (0.5 oz / 14.1 g)
                          Encapsulated Citric Acid 4570700053 1 tsp (.16 oz / 4.5 g) 2 tbsp (0.8 oz / 22.6 g)
                          Hickory Smoke Powder 4570130085 1/2 tsp (.04 oz / 1.1 g) 2.5 tsp (0.2 oz / 5.6 g)
                          Smoked Meat Stabilizer 4560430030 1/2 tsp (.08 oz / 2.2 g) 2 tbsp (0.4 oz / 11.2 g)
                          Sodium Erythorbate 4570700131 1/20th tsp (0.00875 oz / .24 g) 1/4 tsp (0.043 oz / 1.2 g)
                          Soy Protein Blender 4570500110 3 tsp (.48oz / 13.5 g) 1/4 Cup & 1 tbsp (2.4 oz / 67.9 g)
                          Super Bind 4570501140 2 tbsp & 2 tsp (.48 oz / 13.5 g) 3/4 Cup & 1.3 tbsp (2.4 oz / 67.9 g)
                          Sure Gel Binder 4570500852 2 tsp (.24 oz / 6.7 g) 3 tbsp & 1 tsp (1.2 oz / 33.9 g)

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                          bocephus
                          Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
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                          Jonathon Thanks Jonathan, very useful.

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                            jac1
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                            I have summer sausage spice blend with sodium erythorbate already added,
                            can I stuff my sausage after supper then smoke it in the morning ? It would be about 8 to 10 hour between. Thanks

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                              I have summer sausage spice blend with sodium erythorbate already added,
                              can I stuff my sausage after supper then smoke it in the morning ? It would be about 8 to 10 hour between. Thanks

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                              JohnG5
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                              jac1 Since you are using sodium erythorbate as a cure accelerator there is no need to hold it overnight. You can go straight to smoking from stuffing. Without a cure accelerator, you would need to refrigerate overnight.

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                                jac1
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                                Thanks, but I was wondering if I could keep it over night or would it hurt the sausage. Right now I don’t have time to do both back to back. I could wait to make it if I had to.

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                                  Yes holding them overnight using sodium erythorbate would be ok. If you were using encapsulated citric acid as a cure accelerator, then you would need to smoke right away.

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                                    jac1
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                                    Thankyou.

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                                      Sure Gel vs. Carrot Fiber. I have been making summer sausage with venison and pork butt/fat for several years with good success. Only issues have been casing adhesion and small amount of fat inside casing, despite thorough mechanical mixing. Thought I would switch from Carrot Fiber to Sure Gel to see effect. That did resolve the previous issues, but my sausage turned out much denser, more like a bologna. Flavor is spot on. I have had other Summer with this consistency, but prefer a softer consistency, as is more common here in WI. Could the switch in binders be causing this, or is a different cause more likely?

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                                        Sure Gel vs. Carrot Fiber. I have been making summer sausage with venison and pork butt/fat for several years with good success. Only issues have been casing adhesion and small amount of fat inside casing, despite thorough mechanical mixing. Thought I would switch from Carrot Fiber to Sure Gel to see effect. That did resolve the previous issues, but my sausage turned out much denser, more like a bologna. Flavor is spot on. I have had other Summer with this consistency, but prefer a softer consistency, as is more common here in WI. Could the switch in binders be causing this, or is a different cause more likely?

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                                        dncerdmann Carrot Fiber absorbs more of the water in your sausage. That may have some kind of effect on the density.

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                                        • D dncerdmann

                                          Sure Gel vs. Carrot Fiber. I have been making summer sausage with venison and pork butt/fat for several years with good success. Only issues have been casing adhesion and small amount of fat inside casing, despite thorough mechanical mixing. Thought I would switch from Carrot Fiber to Sure Gel to see effect. That did resolve the previous issues, but my sausage turned out much denser, more like a bologna. Flavor is spot on. I have had other Summer with this consistency, but prefer a softer consistency, as is more common here in WI. Could the switch in binders be causing this, or is a different cause more likely?

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                                          YooperDog
                                          Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
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                                          dncerdmann carrot fiber has about 14X the water holding power which will give you a juicier product compared to sure gel. That is one of the reasons it is recommended for fresh sausage.

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