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Chicken and Sausage Gumbo and a medium dark roux... from scratch! by Claude

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  • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

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    Process to assemble the gumbo (Part II):

    1. Bring your gumbo to boil and skim all the scum from the top of the gumbo
    2. Once at a boil, let it cook for a few minutes
    3. Skim any scum that forms and remove as much oil as you can
    4. Bring to a simmer (covered) and periodically skim the oil (that’s how you make a diet gumbo LOL!)
    5. Cook for 3-4hrs on simmer
    6. Add green onions and all your seasoning to taste

    Note: It should be on the saltier side (almost too much) to compensate for the bland rice. It should also have good black pepper heat and some nice tingling from the cayenne and Tabasco. You should also have a bright flavor from the vinegar in the Tabasco

    Serve with rice and German potato salad and some good bread on the side

    NOTE: Some of the Cajuns down here love to put hard boiled eggs in their gumbo.
    NOTE 2: There are 2 schools of thoughts with the potato salad

    1. Potato salad dollop in the bowl
    2. Potato salad dollop on a plate on the side.

    I do not have a picture of the finish product because we make the gumbo and then put it in the fridge to marry the flavors. We should be eating it tonight so I will update the post with a nice picture (if I am not starving to death and don’t remember to take a picture)


    I wonder what Chef has to say about it
    ND Mike I will be using my paddle spoon to serve the rice LOL!!
    RON PARRISH I hope this gets you motivated to make your first roux

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    Dr_Pain hahaha! It looks great!

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    • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

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      Process to assemble the gumbo (Part II):

      1. Bring your gumbo to boil and skim all the scum from the top of the gumbo
      2. Once at a boil, let it cook for a few minutes
      3. Skim any scum that forms and remove as much oil as you can
      4. Bring to a simmer (covered) and periodically skim the oil (that’s how you make a diet gumbo LOL!)
      5. Cook for 3-4hrs on simmer
      6. Add green onions and all your seasoning to taste

      Note: It should be on the saltier side (almost too much) to compensate for the bland rice. It should also have good black pepper heat and some nice tingling from the cayenne and Tabasco. You should also have a bright flavor from the vinegar in the Tabasco

      Serve with rice and German potato salad and some good bread on the side

      NOTE: Some of the Cajuns down here love to put hard boiled eggs in their gumbo.
      NOTE 2: There are 2 schools of thoughts with the potato salad

      1. Potato salad dollop in the bowl
      2. Potato salad dollop on a plate on the side.

      I do not have a picture of the finish product because we make the gumbo and then put it in the fridge to marry the flavors. We should be eating it tonight so I will update the post with a nice picture (if I am not starving to death and don’t remember to take a picture)


      I wonder what Chef has to say about it
      ND Mike I will be using my paddle spoon to serve the rice LOL!!
      RON PARRISH I hope this gets you motivated to make your first roux

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      Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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      Dr_Pain Okay, Chef has to comment. Roux - place the flour and the oil in the oven at 350’F stir every 30 to 45 minutes. You will never bure it this way. You can get as deep a roux without fear of any burn flavor.

      No true coon a s s would put this goodness on potato salad or eggs. This is a mutation over the last few years. It is about the same as adding tomatoes to gumbo which is NOT gumbo.

      Good gumbo should be served over rice. FRESH rice just cooked. I use Chef’s Choice Basmati rice because it is very reliable to not clump together.

      I add about three times the garlic and twice the bell pepper. I mix 1/2 green and red bell pepper.
      add also thyme, and Gumbo Filé; It will not kill you. If it would my great grandparents would not have lived into their late 90’s

      I also add chicken base. It is a chef’s greatest secret. I use Minor’s chicken base, no MSG added. It is a great item to have on hand for flavor.

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      • ChefC Chef

        Dr_Pain Okay, Chef has to comment. Roux - place the flour and the oil in the oven at 350’F stir every 30 to 45 minutes. You will never bure it this way. You can get as deep a roux without fear of any burn flavor.

        No true coon a s s would put this goodness on potato salad or eggs. This is a mutation over the last few years. It is about the same as adding tomatoes to gumbo which is NOT gumbo.

        Good gumbo should be served over rice. FRESH rice just cooked. I use Chef’s Choice Basmati rice because it is very reliable to not clump together.

        I add about three times the garlic and twice the bell pepper. I mix 1/2 green and red bell pepper.
        add also thyme, and Gumbo Filé; It will not kill you. If it would my great grandparents would not have lived into their late 90’s

        I also add chicken base. It is a chef’s greatest secret. I use Minor’s chicken base, no MSG added. It is a great item to have on hand for flavor.

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        Dr_Pain
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        Chef I knew I could count on you. I do find it therapeutic to stir the roux. I have made dry roux in the oven but never a wet one. May have to try it

        A mutation I would agree but it is so good

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          It’s all about the roux. Gumbo with potato salad now that is for sure from cajunland.

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            Righteous food p0rn. The pictures say it all.

            Paul

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            • M mdseaside

              It’s all about the roux. Gumbo with potato salad now that is for sure from cajunland.

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              Dr_Pain
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              mdseaside said in Chicken and Sausage Gumbo and a medium dark roux... from scratch! by Claude:

              It’s all about the roux. Gumbo with potato salad now that is for sure from cajunland.

              Absolutely!!

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              • processheadP processhead

                Righteous food p0rn. The pictures say it all.

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                processhead said in Chicken and Sausage Gumbo and a medium dark roux... from scratch! by Claude:

                Righteous food p0rn. The pictures say it all.

                Thank you Paul

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                • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

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                  IMG_4211.JPG

                  Process to assemble the gumbo (Part II):

                  1. Bring your gumbo to boil and skim all the scum from the top of the gumbo
                  2. Once at a boil, let it cook for a few minutes
                  3. Skim any scum that forms and remove as much oil as you can
                  4. Bring to a simmer (covered) and periodically skim the oil (that’s how you make a diet gumbo LOL!)
                  5. Cook for 3-4hrs on simmer
                  6. Add green onions and all your seasoning to taste

                  Note: It should be on the saltier side (almost too much) to compensate for the bland rice. It should also have good black pepper heat and some nice tingling from the cayenne and Tabasco. You should also have a bright flavor from the vinegar in the Tabasco

                  Serve with rice and German potato salad and some good bread on the side

                  NOTE: Some of the Cajuns down here love to put hard boiled eggs in their gumbo.
                  NOTE 2: There are 2 schools of thoughts with the potato salad

                  1. Potato salad dollop in the bowl
                  2. Potato salad dollop on a plate on the side.

                  I do not have a picture of the finish product because we make the gumbo and then put it in the fridge to marry the flavors. We should be eating it tonight so I will update the post with a nice picture (if I am not starving to death and don’t remember to take a picture)


                  I wonder what Chef has to say about it
                  ND Mike I will be using my paddle spoon to serve the rice LOL!!
                  RON PARRISH I hope this gets you motivated to make your first roux

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                  zbigjeff
                  Sous Vide Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Cast Iron
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                  Dr_Pain Making your roux on the stove vs in the oven is more difficult to obtain without “burning”. Good job. I could only get it that dark or darker in the oven.

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                  • zbigjeffZ zbigjeff

                    Dr_Pain Making your roux on the stove vs in the oven is more difficult to obtain without “burning”. Good job. I could only get it that dark or darker in the oven.

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                    Dr_Pain
                    Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
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                    zbigjeff Thanks Big Jeff. A labor of love. I will have to try the wet roux in the oven

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                    • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

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                      IMG_4211.JPG

                      Process to assemble the gumbo (Part II):

                      1. Bring your gumbo to boil and skim all the scum from the top of the gumbo
                      2. Once at a boil, let it cook for a few minutes
                      3. Skim any scum that forms and remove as much oil as you can
                      4. Bring to a simmer (covered) and periodically skim the oil (that’s how you make a diet gumbo LOL!)
                      5. Cook for 3-4hrs on simmer
                      6. Add green onions and all your seasoning to taste

                      Note: It should be on the saltier side (almost too much) to compensate for the bland rice. It should also have good black pepper heat and some nice tingling from the cayenne and Tabasco. You should also have a bright flavor from the vinegar in the Tabasco

                      Serve with rice and German potato salad and some good bread on the side

                      NOTE: Some of the Cajuns down here love to put hard boiled eggs in their gumbo.
                      NOTE 2: There are 2 schools of thoughts with the potato salad

                      1. Potato salad dollop in the bowl
                      2. Potato salad dollop on a plate on the side.

                      I do not have a picture of the finish product because we make the gumbo and then put it in the fridge to marry the flavors. We should be eating it tonight so I will update the post with a nice picture (if I am not starving to death and don’t remember to take a picture)


                      I wonder what Chef has to say about it
                      ND Mike I will be using my paddle spoon to serve the rice LOL!!
                      RON PARRISH I hope this gets you motivated to make your first roux

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                      Regular Contributors Cast Iron Canning Team Orange Veteran Power User
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                      Dr_Pain Will be trying it soon. Thanks!

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                      • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                        zbigjeff Thanks Big Jeff. A labor of love. I will have to try the wet roux in the oven

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                        Dr_Pain it looks great 👍

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                        • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                          IMG_4208.JPG
                          IMG_4209.JPG
                          IMG_4211.JPG

                          Process to assemble the gumbo (Part II):

                          1. Bring your gumbo to boil and skim all the scum from the top of the gumbo
                          2. Once at a boil, let it cook for a few minutes
                          3. Skim any scum that forms and remove as much oil as you can
                          4. Bring to a simmer (covered) and periodically skim the oil (that’s how you make a diet gumbo LOL!)
                          5. Cook for 3-4hrs on simmer
                          6. Add green onions and all your seasoning to taste

                          Note: It should be on the saltier side (almost too much) to compensate for the bland rice. It should also have good black pepper heat and some nice tingling from the cayenne and Tabasco. You should also have a bright flavor from the vinegar in the Tabasco

                          Serve with rice and German potato salad and some good bread on the side

                          NOTE: Some of the Cajuns down here love to put hard boiled eggs in their gumbo.
                          NOTE 2: There are 2 schools of thoughts with the potato salad

                          1. Potato salad dollop in the bowl
                          2. Potato salad dollop on a plate on the side.

                          I do not have a picture of the finish product because we make the gumbo and then put it in the fridge to marry the flavors. We should be eating it tonight so I will update the post with a nice picture (if I am not starving to death and don’t remember to take a picture)


                          I wonder what Chef has to say about it
                          ND Mike I will be using my paddle spoon to serve the rice LOL!!
                          RON PARRISH I hope this gets you motivated to make your first roux

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                          lkrfletcher
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                          Dr_Pain - WOW!

                          Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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                          • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                            Chef I knew I could count on you. I do find it therapeutic to stir the roux. I have made dry roux in the oven but never a wet one. May have to try it

                            A mutation I would agree but it is so good

                            7C58CF38-1D90-46A7-A29F-05B262340EBA.jpeg

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                            Dr_Pain One other thing for people wanting to make Gumbo. The color Roux you made is about the color my grandmother would make. Bless her heart, burns on her arms and all, she could get a roux that color in about 10 minutes without burning. I can’t do that.

                            It should be pointed out that as the roux gets darker, the thickening ability dramatically goes down. There is an increase in flavor as it darkens and a decrease in thickening power. People compensate with okra or Filé (which is my preference).

                            Everyone finds their happy medium. For me, I go for a hazelnut brown, a bit lighter than what you make. Great flavor, while still possessing the thickening ability I prefer.

                            I am experimenting with Ultra-Tex products for thickening. Have successfully used it in gravies and soups, as well as cream fillings. So far, the results are very favorable. It produces a very stable thickening over all temperature ranges without any change in texture or flavor.

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                            • cdavisC cdavis

                              Dr_Pain it looks great 👍

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                              cdavis said in Chicken and Sausage Gumbo and a medium dark roux... from scratch! by Claude:

                              Dr_Pain it looks great 👍

                              Thank you! Labor of love but so tasty

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                                Dr_Pain Will be trying it soon. Thanks!

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                                RON PARRISH said in Chicken and Sausage Gumbo and a medium dark roux... from scratch! by Claude:

                                Dr_Pain Will be trying it soon. Thanks!

                                Feel free to reach out if you have any questions

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                                • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

                                  Dr_Pain - WOW!

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                                  lkrfletcher said in Chicken and Sausage Gumbo and a medium dark roux... from scratch! by Claude:

                                  Dr_Pain - WOW!

                                  Thanks. The WOW should apply to the taste more than the process LOL!!! It is/was DELICIOUS

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                                    Dr_Pain One other thing for people wanting to make Gumbo. The color Roux you made is about the color my grandmother would make. Bless her heart, burns on her arms and all, she could get a roux that color in about 10 minutes without burning. I can’t do that.

                                    It should be pointed out that as the roux gets darker, the thickening ability dramatically goes down. There is an increase in flavor as it darkens and a decrease in thickening power. People compensate with okra or Filé (which is my preference).

                                    Everyone finds their happy medium. For me, I go for a hazelnut brown, a bit lighter than what you make. Great flavor, while still possessing the thickening ability I prefer.

                                    I am experimenting with Ultra-Tex products for thickening. Have successfully used it in gravies and soups, as well as cream fillings. So far, the results are very favorable. It produces a very stable thickening over all temperature ranges without any change in texture or flavor.

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                                    Chef said in Chicken and Sausage Gumbo and a medium dark roux... from scratch! by Claude:

                                    Dr_Pain
                                    It should be pointed out that as the roux gets darker, the thickening ability dramatically goes down. There is an increase in flavor as it darkens and a decrease in thickening power. People compensate with okra or Filé (which is my preference).

                                    I am experimenting with Ultra-Tex products for thickening. Have successfully used it in gravies and soups, as well as cream fillings. So far, the results are very favorable. It produces a very stable thickening over all temperature ranges without any change in texture or flavor.

                                    I am so glad you mentioned it. The amount of flour I made was definitely for that dark roux (less thickening power). With a hazelnut or lighter roux you definitely need to reduce the flour or increase the ingredients including the stock.

                                    HAHA, you are getting fancy there. Next thing you know we will be doing Cajun molecular gastronomy

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                                    • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

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                                      IMG_4211.JPG

                                      Process to assemble the gumbo (Part II):

                                      1. Bring your gumbo to boil and skim all the scum from the top of the gumbo
                                      2. Once at a boil, let it cook for a few minutes
                                      3. Skim any scum that forms and remove as much oil as you can
                                      4. Bring to a simmer (covered) and periodically skim the oil (that’s how you make a diet gumbo LOL!)
                                      5. Cook for 3-4hrs on simmer
                                      6. Add green onions and all your seasoning to taste

                                      Note: It should be on the saltier side (almost too much) to compensate for the bland rice. It should also have good black pepper heat and some nice tingling from the cayenne and Tabasco. You should also have a bright flavor from the vinegar in the Tabasco

                                      Serve with rice and German potato salad and some good bread on the side

                                      NOTE: Some of the Cajuns down here love to put hard boiled eggs in their gumbo.
                                      NOTE 2: There are 2 schools of thoughts with the potato salad

                                      1. Potato salad dollop in the bowl
                                      2. Potato salad dollop on a plate on the side.

                                      I do not have a picture of the finish product because we make the gumbo and then put it in the fridge to marry the flavors. We should be eating it tonight so I will update the post with a nice picture (if I am not starving to death and don’t remember to take a picture)


                                      I wonder what Chef has to say about it
                                      ND Mike I will be using my paddle spoon to serve the rice LOL!!
                                      RON PARRISH I hope this gets you motivated to make your first roux

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                                      Dr_Pain Diet Gumbo, that’s a new one!

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                                      • B bocephus

                                        Dr_Pain Diet Gumbo, that’s a new one!

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                                        bocephus Right!!!

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                                        • B bocephus

                                          Dr_Pain Diet Gumbo, that’s a new one!

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                                          bocephus zbigjeff WHATEVER IT TAKES!! so you can enjoy a big old bowl 😉

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