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How to Make Homemade Summer Sausage - Recipe

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  • JonathonJ Jonathon

    Crawrugger So no stepping up? Just started it at 170°? Glad it came out good!

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    Jonathon Yes, with my conventional oven I didn’t have the ability to get any lower than 170 degrees. I just set it and left it. I didn’t preheat at all and had 25- 1lbs summer sausages in there so it took a while to get up to temp but other than that no tricks.

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      Also, for those that don’t have the money to spend on a mixer I used a drywall mud mixer connected to a drill to mix 25 lbs of grind in a 5 gallon bucket and it worked great. $10 solution.

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        Going to make a smaller batch of the Tons flavor summer sausage. Want to double check my math as all of the conversions are not in the chart.
        All of these numbers are per lb of meat block:
        1 Tbls seasoning
        1.134 grams sure cure
        4.5 grams carrot fiber
        2 to 2.5 oz water
        2.268 grams smoked meat stabilizer

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          Jonathon
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          BrianB Ton’s isn’t on the list because it is only available in 100 lb units so I dont know the volume on it.
          Ton’s 0.6 oz per lb
          Your sure cure is correct
          Carrot fiber is correct
          I prefer using 2 to 2.5 lb of water per 25 lb of meat, so that would be 1.28 oz of water. However, with carrot fiber 2 oz of water per lb would be fine. Might take a little longer to cook.
          Smoked meat stabilizer correct as well!

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          • JonathonJ Jonathon

            BrianB Ton’s isn’t on the list because it is only available in 100 lb units so I dont know the volume on it.
            Ton’s 0.6 oz per lb
            Your sure cure is correct
            Carrot fiber is correct
            I prefer using 2 to 2.5 lb of water per 25 lb of meat, so that would be 1.28 oz of water. However, with carrot fiber 2 oz of water per lb would be fine. Might take a little longer to cook.
            Smoked meat stabilizer correct as well!

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            BrianB
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            Jonathon tons is on there but the carrot fiber is not. I ended up finding it somewhere else and doing the math. It seemed like a lot of carrot fiber. We will find out tomorrow.

            Thank you

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              Jonathon
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              BrianB Yes, 2.25 oz of carrot fiber is a lot more than you would expect it to be as that stuff is so light and airy!

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                Jonathon, in your Summer Sausage video you put both carrot fiber and ECA in the mix. I know the ECA is to give the tang to the meat but doesn’t it also act as a cure accelerator? Was the carrot fiber also needed to smoke the meat right from the stuffer?

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                  Please disregard my last post; I have never used carrot fiber and I had it in my head that it was a cure accelerator not a binder.

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                      When do you the Carrot Fiber binding, do you mix it in when making the sausage or right before you case them?

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                        Robert Newsome You mix it in with the rest of the seasoning and any other additives aside from Encapsulated Citric Acid or cheese (last 60 seconds) or if you are making a brine and using Cold Phosphate (has got to be dissolved in the water first)

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                        • I ihang10

                          So, I followed the directions to what I thought were a ‘T’, ingredients ( I did sub out for carrot fiber vs the Sure Gel), temperature schedule, the whole thing. Using 80% venison, 20% pork fat a couple of things happened. First, There was a lot of fat rendering, and that led to some loss of volume. I was kind of surprised, the sausage was not adhering to the casing. Second, was the water intrusion during the ice bath. I actually used bagged ice because I had an issue the last time when I made meat sticks, they were waterlogged. So, I put everything in an ice cube bath (no water), for 10 minutes or so, and when it was said and done, I had what I could only call a substantial amount of water inside the casing. The water would have come from the ice melting of course. I hung the sausages from a dowel in my refrigerator for a few days, hoping they would dry out some. I think they have that this point, and the casing seems to have shrunk now, but I am not sure if the sausage has adhered now. Overall the taste is good, consistency is about right, the ECA is a little over powering to me, I would skip that and just let them rest overnight.

                          Next ice bath gets some sort of a bag or something in between the product and the ice. Waterlogged twice now and mildly infuriated.

                          Is losing all that fat normal? My final casings looked nothing like the pictures in the recipe.

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                          ihang10 said in How to Make Homemade Summer Sausage - Recipe:

                          I did sub out for carrot fiber vs the Sure Gel

                          This might be part of your problem. Unless you have an allergy issue, try using Sure Gel. You’re going to get much better extraction, and that will help with both your fat-out problem and the casing adhering.

                          Something else to try is to start cooking at around 110F for a good hour or so before moving on to 125F and then stretching out the schedule from there. I did that with my last batch of Summer sausage (pork & beef) and was VERY happy with the results. I don’t have my notes in front of me, but I believe I had steps at 110, 125, 140, 150, 160, 175, and then I finished them in sous vide. The whole cook was close to 14 hours. There was significant weight loss, but it wasn’t from fat-out. There really wasn’t any fat-out to speak of.

                          I didn’t package them when I put them in the sous vide (which took about 30 minutes), and they were in the water bath for about 10 minutes, and I had no significant water inside the casings. I did let them sit out on a rack at room temperature with a gentle fan on them to dry out the casings a bit before vac-packing them, and that also turned out well.

                          That’s about the only things I can come up with

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                            ihang10 I agree with TexLaw Sure gel over carrot fiber for anything cured.

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                              kroc
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                              making summer sausage in the oven. Can I use powdered hickory smoke to give it the smoke flavor or liquid smoke.

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                                making summer sausage in the oven. Can I use powdered hickory smoke to give it the smoke flavor or liquid smoke.

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                                kroc I’d use that hickory smoke powder. I haven’t used it, yet, but it sure does smell both good and authentic.

                                I know that liquid smoke actually is made from smoke, but it always strikes me as acrid and just “off” for smoke.

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                                  sounds good. I will give it a try. I live in apts. so i can’t use a smoker.

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                                    kroc It’s not 100% the same BUT Hickory Smoke Powder does a great job of replacing the flavor. In fact, there was a while were Austin and I were doing our Will it BBQ videos and we would smoke something and then try that same thing with hickory smoke powder and we often couldn’t tell the difference.

                                    Hmmmm smoked ice cream! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ky17U-ClJI

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                                      I believe you recommend a 3mm plate for your final grind. The smallest one I have is 4.5mm. is that too big for summer/venison sausage.

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                                        I believe you recommend a 3mm plate for your final grind. The smallest one I have is 4.5mm. is that too big for summer/venison sausage.

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                                        BRagland1
                                        That will be fine. Have used a 4.5 many many times.

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                                          BRagland1
                                          That will be fine. Have used a 4.5 many many times.

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                                          PapaSop thank you. Wasn’t sure how much difference in texture it makes.

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