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Rookie Questions on Smoker Sausage

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    mikesr
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    YooperDog, There’s a considerable amount of fat in the drip pan and I think you’re right that the sausages are getting overcooked and losing both fat and water. My smoker has very poor temp control - it has swings as much as 100 degrees above the set temp. I’m thinking that this, along with the fact that I didn’t use the ice bath after smoking might also be contributing to the leathery, un-chewable skin. I’m looking into an Auber digital temp controller at this time and I think there might be a solution to temperature control there. Thanks YooperDog.

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      Jonathon
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      mikesr I’m betting your problem is smoke schedule, I’ve had that happen with casings before when I tried to smoke natural casings without paying attention to temps or humidity. I know you said 250 was what you were aiming for but can you give us what your full schedule was?

      It also could be (unlikely) that the casings weren’t prepared correctly. If you don’t soak them in hot water for about 30- 60 minutes before stuffing them they can have similar issues. I just put that in there to be safe but I am fairly confident that the issue is the smoke schedule.

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        mikesr
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        Thanks Jonathon. I don’t really have a smoke schedule. I put a water pan in the bottom of the smoker and try to keep the temp as close to 225 as possible (the smoker is very inconsistent and will spike to higher temps unless I’m standing over it constantly). Then I just monitor the internal meat temp. It’s taken 2 hours or less for the sausage to come to fully cooked temperature, so I think that amounts to “no schedule”. I do soak the casings, but only in tap water temperature. Thanks again.

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          Jonathon
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          mikesr Stepping up your temps is the first thing I would try. Follow this smoke schedule and see if it works better
          Set up your smoker and hang your sausage on smoke sticks or lay on racks and smoke at
          125F for 1 hour
          140F for 1 hour
          155F for 2 hours
          175F until internal meat temp of 160F
          Got that from here https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/761/cured-sausage-108-basics-for-making-smoked-sausage/2

          Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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            mikesr
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            Thanks Jonathon. My smoker isn’t capable of anywhere near that degree of precision. I’m ordering a digital temp controller and I think that is going to remedy the smoking schedule / temperature situation. I’ll let you know how it turns out.

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              Thanks Jonathon. My smoker isn’t capable of anywhere near that degree of precision. I’m ordering a digital temp controller and I think that is going to remedy the smoking schedule / temperature situation. I’ll let you know how it turns out.

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              Joe1
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              mikesr I have an older charbroil electric smoker. I purchased an auber instruments WSD-1500H-W it was a little pricey at $240.00 but it works great at maintaining temperature and it’s programmable for smoke schedule. Also has an app you can use to monitor/modify schedule on your phone or tablet. It has 1 probe for smoker temperature and 2 for IT. only problem, I could have used the money to upgrade smoker 🤔.

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                mikesr
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                Thanks Joe1. That’s the system my research has led me to. It’s great to hear that it works as advertised. I thought about upgrading my smoker too. Only problem: it’s built in to an outdoor cook center and nothing else would fit. Sounds like the Auber Instruments is at least part of the solution. Thanks!

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                  Thanks Joe1. That’s the system my research has led me to. It’s great to hear that it works as advertised. I thought about upgrading my smoker too. Only problem: it’s built in to an outdoor cook center and nothing else would fit. Sounds like the Auber Instruments is at least part of the solution. Thanks!

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                    Joe1
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                    mikesr here’s a screenshot of what I got from the app.
                    20200728_173724.jpg

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                      mikesr
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                      Thanks Joe. Looks like the real deal.

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                        mikesr I’m betting your problem is smoke schedule, I’ve had that happen with casings before when I tried to smoke natural casings without paying attention to temps or humidity. I know you said 250 was what you were aiming for but can you give us what your full schedule was?

                        It also could be (unlikely) that the casings weren’t prepared correctly. If you don’t soak them in hot water for about 30- 60 minutes before stuffing them they can have similar issues. I just put that in there to be safe but I am fairly confident that the issue is the smoke schedule.

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                        Jonathon I prefer to soak my casings for several hours or overnight in the fridge. The standard 30-60 minutes never gives me the results I’m looking for. They don’t come off the horn as easy as ones soaked longer

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                          Jonathon I prefer to soak my casings for several hours or overnight in the fridge. The standard 30-60 minutes never gives me the results I’m looking for. They don’t come off the horn as easy as ones soaked longer

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                          glen
                          Regular Contributors Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Power User Meat Hack Winner Veteran
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                          Joe Hell Good tip, that could explain why my casings are sometimes hard to get along with

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                            mikesr
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                            Thank you Joe. Many good tips here for a beginner.

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                              Thank you Joe. Many good tips here for a beginner.

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                              glen
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                              mikesr Mike, lots of experience in the community but I don’t think you will find anyone here who hasn’t learned a few things

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                                mikesr
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                                And willing to help. Thanks.

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                                  mikesr Stepping up your temps is the first thing I would try. Follow this smoke schedule and see if it works better
                                  Set up your smoker and hang your sausage on smoke sticks or lay on racks and smoke at
                                  125F for 1 hour
                                  140F for 1 hour
                                  155F for 2 hours
                                  175F until internal meat temp of 160F
                                  Got that from here https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/761/cured-sausage-108-basics-for-making-smoked-sausage/2

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                                  TexLaw
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                                  Jonathon said in Rookie Questions on Smoker Sausage:

                                  140F for 1 hour
                                  155F for 2 hours

                                  I’ve been meaning to ask (and apologize if you’ve answered this somewhere else). For those steps, when do you start the clock?

                                  Is it once you’ve reached the target temperature? That’s what I’ve been doing, and it’s working fine, but I wanted to check on that.

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                                    I’ve made my first two attempts to make smoked beef kielbasa - practice runs for duck and goose sausage, once I get it right. The flavor is OK, but the natural hog casing is so tough when it comes out of the smoker, I have to peel it off in order to bite into the sausage. Also, the meat filling itself is somewhat dense in texture, even though I use the coarse grinding plate and only run the meat through the grinder one time. I’m using the Kitchen Aid grinder and auger-type sausage stuffer. Ingredients are mostly beef, some pork shoulder and pork fat. Total fat is approximately 25 - 30%. Very much appreciate your suggestions.

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                                    TexLaw
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                                    mikesr said in Rookie Questions on Smoker Sausage:

                                    Also, the meat filling itself is somewhat dense in texture, even though I use the coarse grinding plate and only run the meat through the grinder one time.

                                    I agree that you probably are overcooking your sausage, especially since you didn’t use an ice bath. You will get some carryover temperature rise, especially if your smoker temperature is getting as high as 250F. I overcooked a batch, and it was very dense–sort of rubbery. It tasted good, but that wasn’t the texture I wanted.

                                    Also, what binder are you using (and how much)? That can make a significant difference on your final product.

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                                      Jonathon
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                                      TexLaw that’s a good question and not one that I think we have covered but you will want to get your smoker up to temp before putting in the sausage. Sort of like pasta to boiling water, best analogy I can come up with right now!

                                      Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                                        TexLaw that’s a good question and not one that I think we have covered but you will want to get your smoker up to temp before putting in the sausage. Sort of like pasta to boiling water, best analogy I can come up with right now!

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                                        Jonathon I get it up to the starting temp before putting it on, but when do you start the clock for the intermediate steps (e.g., 140F for 1 hour). Is it when you go set the temperature to 140F or when the cooker actually gets there?

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                                          TexLaw Sorry, misunderstood your question. I start the original clock when it it is at temp but then I don’t adjust the future times. So, start at 120 (put product in at 120) for an hour and then as soon as I adjust the temp the next phase has begun and I start counting down. That went from a good question to a great question and it will be on some sort of video post in the future, you’ll get credit for it!

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