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  • C Cabelas90

    PapaSop I think that would be a good one. the 3/8 was a little on the big side.

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    Cabelas90
    Thanks again. Kinda looking for the texture of the store bought ones.

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      Cabelas90 What was your smoke schedule for those on the GMG? Start at 150 and just deal with it or did you prop the lid?

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        Cabelas90 What was your smoke schedule for those on the GMG? Start at 150 and just deal with it or did you prop the lid?

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        Jonathon I started at 150 with the lid propped for 1 hour the i closed the lid for one hour. I was trying to get the roaster going inside to finish them off. When i temped them to move them they where already done so i quick got the ice bath ready and tossed them in. It felt like amateur hour but ended well lol

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        • C Cabelas90

          Jonathon I started at 150 with the lid propped for 1 hour the i closed the lid for one hour. I was trying to get the roaster going inside to finish them off. When i temped them to move them they where already done so i quick got the ice bath ready and tossed them in. It felt like amateur hour but ended well lol

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          Cabelas90
          Wow, only a couple hours? They look great and nicely packaged. Awesome!

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            Cabelas90
            Wow, only a couple hours? They look great and nicely packaged. Awesome!

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            PapaSop Thanks! I was quite surprised!

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              Wow, they both look great! I will get there one day!!

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              • C Cabelas90

                Jonathon I started at 150 with the lid propped for 1 hour the i closed the lid for one hour. I was trying to get the roaster going inside to finish them off. When i temped them to move them they where already done so i quick got the ice bath ready and tossed them in. It felt like amateur hour but ended well lol

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                Cabelas90 I’ve been really lucky thus far with quick snack stick cooks. Our smoker at the shop isn’t the best for low and slow. It tends to cook FAST…less than an hour to get to 150. I then finish in a water bath. I mix everything by hand until I feel I get the protein extraction I need and have yet to experience fat out.

                Better Living Through BBQ!

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                • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                  Cabelas90 I’ve been really lucky thus far with quick snack stick cooks. Our smoker at the shop isn’t the best for low and slow. It tends to cook FAST…less than an hour to get to 150. I then finish in a water bath. I mix everything by hand until I feel I get the protein extraction I need and have yet to experience fat out.

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                  Joe Hell Glad to know im not the only one. Im used to our big houses at the shop that are micro processor controlled so i didnt know what to expect at home.

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                    Joe Hell Do you get any smoke flavoron them if they smoke that quick?

                    Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                    • JonathonJ Jonathon

                      Joe Hell Do you get any smoke flavoron them if they smoke that quick?

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                      Jonathon Not as much as I would like so I supplement with a bit of the hickory smoke powder!

                      Better Living Through BBQ!

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                      • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                        Cabelas90 I’ve been really lucky thus far with quick snack stick cooks. Our smoker at the shop isn’t the best for low and slow. It tends to cook FAST…less than an hour to get to 150. I then finish in a water bath. I mix everything by hand until I feel I get the protein extraction I need and have yet to experience fat out.

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                        Joe Hell I mix by hand every time (4x so far, I’m a newb) & I still fat out every. single. time. I’m at a loss to be honest. I mixed thoroughly with a squeezing, turning move for 10-15 minutes. Meat was nice and sticky. Start in smoker (30" smoke hollow), hanging, at 120°F for 1 hr. 140°F for 2 hours. 150°F for 2 hours. 175°F until internal temp reaches 165°F, and then move immediately to the ice water bath for 15 minutes. If anyone could throw me a bone, I will take it!

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                        • JerkyIsMySaladJ JerkyIsMySalad

                          Joe Hell I mix by hand every time (4x so far, I’m a newb) & I still fat out every. single. time. I’m at a loss to be honest. I mixed thoroughly with a squeezing, turning move for 10-15 minutes. Meat was nice and sticky. Start in smoker (30" smoke hollow), hanging, at 120°F for 1 hr. 140°F for 2 hours. 150°F for 2 hours. 175°F until internal temp reaches 165°F, and then move immediately to the ice water bath for 15 minutes. If anyone could throw me a bone, I will take it!

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                          @kanevak Whats your meat block and recipe? Ive seen some recipes that fat out no matter what as theirs just not enough seasoning to tie up the fat but those normally would be along the line of natural.
                          Joe Hell will tell you and although ive never done it yet I think he’s right Pull those sticks after the 140 step and throw in 170 deg water to finish!

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                          • C Cabelas90

                            @kanevak Whats your meat block and recipe? Ive seen some recipes that fat out no matter what as theirs just not enough seasoning to tie up the fat but those normally would be along the line of natural.
                            Joe Hell will tell you and although ive never done it yet I think he’s right Pull those sticks after the 140 step and throw in 170 deg water to finish!

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                            Cabelas90 I follow the Walton’s Meatgistics https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/182/how-to-make-homemade-snack-sticks?page=1 except I use an 17 lb block of 13.5 lbs lean venison & 3.5 lbs leaf pork fat. I do hand mix but my wife and I take turns and we try to do it thoroughly! So are you saying that more seasoning will help?

                            How do you keep the water hot? I don’t have the means to hot water cook a 17 lb batch of snack sticks.

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                            • JerkyIsMySaladJ JerkyIsMySalad

                              Joe Hell I mix by hand every time (4x so far, I’m a newb) & I still fat out every. single. time. I’m at a loss to be honest. I mixed thoroughly with a squeezing, turning move for 10-15 minutes. Meat was nice and sticky. Start in smoker (30" smoke hollow), hanging, at 120°F for 1 hr. 140°F for 2 hours. 150°F for 2 hours. 175°F until internal temp reaches 165°F, and then move immediately to the ice water bath for 15 minutes. If anyone could throw me a bone, I will take it!

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                              @kanevak When mixing by hand you need to be mixing for about 25-30 minutes in order to get the proper amount of Protein extraction. It sucks, your hands are going to be very cold and cramp up a lot. I have the 20 lb meat mixer and it works perfect for me. I rarely make a 25 lb batch of anything and if I do it is usually a Fresh product and I just mix by hand enough to get the seasoning mixed in well.

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                              • JerkyIsMySaladJ JerkyIsMySalad

                                Cabelas90 I follow the Walton’s Meatgistics https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/182/how-to-make-homemade-snack-sticks?page=1 except I use an 17 lb block of 13.5 lbs lean venison & 3.5 lbs leaf pork fat. I do hand mix but my wife and I take turns and we try to do it thoroughly! So are you saying that more seasoning will help?

                                How do you keep the water hot? I don’t have the means to hot water cook a 17 lb batch of snack sticks.

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                                @kanevak I dont think seasonings is the issue with that recipe especially with the binder. The recipes ive seen that just always fat out are usually like 3 ingredients because the hippies think everything is bad for you. Your fat % is good. Snack Sticks can Certainly be done without the water bath. Have you temped the meat that you grind? To warm and you cant get proper protein extraction also. I like to make sure its 31-32 deg when i start grinding. And Like AdamCA says you just plain may not be mixing it enough.

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                                • C Cabelas90

                                  @kanevak I dont think seasonings is the issue with that recipe especially with the binder. The recipes ive seen that just always fat out are usually like 3 ingredients because the hippies think everything is bad for you. Your fat % is good. Snack Sticks can Certainly be done without the water bath. Have you temped the meat that you grind? To warm and you cant get proper protein extraction also. I like to make sure its 31-32 deg when i start grinding. And Like AdamCA says you just plain may not be mixing it enough.

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                                  Cabelas90 FYI, I changed my username from kanevak, but I do grind it partially frozen and keep bags of ice in the bottom of my meat lug. AdamCA is right, maybe I just need to go another 15 minutes or just buy a meat mixer. Well, I guess I will have to try again (shucks, huh?)

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                                  • JerkyIsMySaladJ JerkyIsMySalad

                                    Cabelas90 FYI, I changed my username from kanevak, but I do grind it partially frozen and keep bags of ice in the bottom of my meat lug. AdamCA is right, maybe I just need to go another 15 minutes or just buy a meat mixer. Well, I guess I will have to try again (shucks, huh?)

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                                    JerkyIsMySalad Haha its sure is a burden to carry! I would try a smaller batch and see what you come up with!

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                                      I have traditionally used a milk based binder and have never had a problem with fat out unless I got the smoker temp too hot, over 170 degrees for snack sticks. I firmly believe in 160 degree hot water bath to finish snack sticks, bring 140-150 in smoker than finish in hot water bath

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                                        I have traditionally used a milk based binder and have never had a problem with fat out unless I got the smoker temp too hot, over 170 degrees for snack sticks. I firmly believe in 160 degree hot water bath to finish snack sticks, bring 140-150 in smoker than finish in hot water bath

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                                        akdave Do you then cool at room temperature?

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                                        • JerkyIsMySaladJ JerkyIsMySalad

                                          akdave Do you then cool at room temperature?

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                                          JerkyIsMySalad You would still cool in a ice bath.

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