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    Hello all, new to this site but looks informative. I just ordered some carrot fiber for a batch of venison salami I am going to make. This is my third year of making this for our hunting group and each year my recipe gets better as I tweak it.

    So the fiber, what is the best way to introduce it into the meat? I usually take all of my seasoning and cure and mix it in the water that the recipe requires. Should I also put the carrot fiber in the water or mix it in with the meat then pour the water and seasoning on it? I watched the video Walton’s made about it and the fiber gets very thick so I didn’t know if it would matter how I introduced it

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    • N nemo

      Hello all, new to this site but looks informative. I just ordered some carrot fiber for a batch of venison salami I am going to make. This is my third year of making this for our hunting group and each year my recipe gets better as I tweak it.

      So the fiber, what is the best way to introduce it into the meat? I usually take all of my seasoning and cure and mix it in the water that the recipe requires. Should I also put the carrot fiber in the water or mix it in with the meat then pour the water and seasoning on it? I watched the video Walton’s made about it and the fiber gets very thick so I didn’t know if it would matter how I introduced it

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      kyle
      Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
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      nemo I mix everything EXCEPT the carrot fiber. After I mix the water and seasoning in my meat, then I add the carrot fiber and mix that in.

      hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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      • N nemo

        Hello all, new to this site but looks informative. I just ordered some carrot fiber for a batch of venison salami I am going to make. This is my third year of making this for our hunting group and each year my recipe gets better as I tweak it.

        So the fiber, what is the best way to introduce it into the meat? I usually take all of my seasoning and cure and mix it in the water that the recipe requires. Should I also put the carrot fiber in the water or mix it in with the meat then pour the water and seasoning on it? I watched the video Walton’s made about it and the fiber gets very thick so I didn’t know if it would matter how I introduced it

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        cdavis
        Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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        nemo welcome. There is a wealth of knowledge in this community. Glad to have you be part of it.

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        • N nemo

          Hello all, new to this site but looks informative. I just ordered some carrot fiber for a batch of venison salami I am going to make. This is my third year of making this for our hunting group and each year my recipe gets better as I tweak it.

          So the fiber, what is the best way to introduce it into the meat? I usually take all of my seasoning and cure and mix it in the water that the recipe requires. Should I also put the carrot fiber in the water or mix it in with the meat then pour the water and seasoning on it? I watched the video Walton’s made about it and the fiber gets very thick so I didn’t know if it would matter how I introduced it

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          bocephus
          Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
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          nemo Welcome to the sight, you will find a very friendly and helpful group here.

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            Midwest_kc
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            Personally, I don’t use carrot fiber in cured sausages. I will use sure gel instead. However, I do use it in any fresh sausage I make, and I just add it with the seasonings.

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            • Midwest_kcM Midwest_kc

              Personally, I don’t use carrot fiber in cured sausages. I will use sure gel instead. However, I do use it in any fresh sausage I make, and I just add it with the seasonings.

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              twilliams
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              Midwest_kc I really didn’t see a difference in moisture and texture when I used carrot fiber. Little of a disappointment considering I love using sure gel for my smoked products

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                Midwest_kc I really didn’t see a difference in moisture and texture when I used carrot fiber. Little of a disappointment considering I love using sure gel for my smoked products

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                Midwest_kc
                Team Blue Sous Vide PK Grills Green Mountain Grill Regular Contributors
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                twilliams honestly, I have never done it without so I do t have any comparison. I figure it’s a cheap additive so if it doesn’t help much I’m not out anything, but if I screw up my fat content, etc, potentially I can give myself room for error with it.

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                • Midwest_kcM Midwest_kc

                  twilliams honestly, I have never done it without so I do t have any comparison. I figure it’s a cheap additive so if it doesn’t help much I’m not out anything, but if I screw up my fat content, etc, potentially I can give myself room for error with it.

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                  cdavis
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                  Midwest_kc that sounds like a good plan 👌

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                    smokinbubba
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                    I thought someone said use carrot fiber for domestic meats and sure gel for venison…Jonathon

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                      craigrice
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                      welcome to the group

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                        I thought someone said use carrot fiber for domestic meats and sure gel for venison…Jonathon

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                        smokinbubba no, sure gel for smoked sausage and carrot fiber for fresh sausage

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                        • N nemo

                          Hello all, new to this site but looks informative. I just ordered some carrot fiber for a batch of venison salami I am going to make. This is my third year of making this for our hunting group and each year my recipe gets better as I tweak it.

                          So the fiber, what is the best way to introduce it into the meat? I usually take all of my seasoning and cure and mix it in the water that the recipe requires. Should I also put the carrot fiber in the water or mix it in with the meat then pour the water and seasoning on it? I watched the video Walton’s made about it and the fiber gets very thick so I didn’t know if it would matter how I introduced it

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                          nemo Oh and while you are at it be sure to sign up to be a member of team ORANGE.

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                            nemo Oh and while you are at it be sure to sign up to be a member of team ORANGE.

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                            YooperDog
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                            nemo you can use either carrot fiber in smoked meat products, but it is typically used in fresh. Where sure gel is typically used in cured products. Carrot fiber has a higher water holding capacity which will affect the time of your cook of cured products and may make it have a spongey texture. Sure gel holds some moisture but it also helps with protein extraction when making cured. If you have the opportunity try some Small batches and see what you like

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