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Sous Vide Summer Sausage

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  • G glen

    Jonathon This run was cured but I have done the same with ECA and yes, above 130
    The internal was 155 when pulled

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    glen
    Actually just noticed your signature… Amen!

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      glen this seems like a good recipe to try. To be clear, your recipe is:
      -155 degrees for 2 hours
      -1 tbsp water in vacuum sealed bag
      -Ice bath for how long after 2 hour cook? And how long do you dry/bloom after ice bath?

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      benj11317 Let me clarify

      The 1 tablespoon was the approximate liquid lost during the Sous Vide cook (I vac bagged)
      I rested the tubes out of the refrigerator at room temp for around 30 min.
      With sous vide set at 110 for cook 30 min.
      Reset SV to 130 cook for 40 min.
      Reset SV to 145 cook for 40 min.
      Reset SV to 155 cook 40 min, then ice bath
      I forgot to add in the 10 minute time lag for the SV to reach each target temp therefore actual in SV time was 2.5 hrs.
      I changed my original post to reflect that

      I figured staging temperatures would help set the fat like smoking stages

      Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
      Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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        glen
        Actually just noticed your signature… Amen!

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        PapaSop Yeah Papa, I still laugh as hard as anyone when I tell that one!

        Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
        Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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        • G glen

          benj11317 Let me clarify

          The 1 tablespoon was the approximate liquid lost during the Sous Vide cook (I vac bagged)
          I rested the tubes out of the refrigerator at room temp for around 30 min.
          With sous vide set at 110 for cook 30 min.
          Reset SV to 130 cook for 40 min.
          Reset SV to 145 cook for 40 min.
          Reset SV to 155 cook 40 min, then ice bath
          I forgot to add in the 10 minute time lag for the SV to reach each target temp therefore actual in SV time was 2.5 hrs.
          I changed my original post to reflect that

          I figured staging temperatures would help set the fat like smoking stages

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          Dr_Pain
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          glen said in Sous Vide Summer Sausage:

          benj11317 Let me clarify

          The 1 tablespoon was the approximate liquid lost during the Sous Vide cook (I vac bagged)
          I rested the tubes out of the refrigerator at room temp for around 30 min.
          With sous vide set at 110 for cook 30 min.
          Reset SV to 130 cook for 40 min.
          Reset SV to 145 cook for 40 min.
          Reset SV to 155 cook 40 min, then ice bath
          I forgot to add in the 10 minute time lag for the SV to reach each target temp therefore actual in SV time was 2.5 hrs.
          I changed my original post to reflect that

          I figured staging temperatures would help set the fat like smoking stages

          That is a very good schedule but I am wondering if it is necessary. The beauty of sousvide is that you won’t create the an uneven cook in the meat or create a hardening of the exterior which would slow or prevent proper cooking of the middle. It would be a fun experiment to compare side by side

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            I tried some sous vide bologna once without stepping up the temps and it rendered out the fat. I would guess the same could happen to summer sausage. Might be OK though since my bologna had higher fat content than typical summer sausage.

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              glen said in Sous Vide Summer Sausage:

              benj11317 Let me clarify

              The 1 tablespoon was the approximate liquid lost during the Sous Vide cook (I vac bagged)
              I rested the tubes out of the refrigerator at room temp for around 30 min.
              With sous vide set at 110 for cook 30 min.
              Reset SV to 130 cook for 40 min.
              Reset SV to 145 cook for 40 min.
              Reset SV to 155 cook 40 min, then ice bath
              I forgot to add in the 10 minute time lag for the SV to reach each target temp therefore actual in SV time was 2.5 hrs.
              I changed my original post to reflect that

              I figured staging temperatures would help set the fat like smoking stages

              That is a very good schedule but I am wondering if it is necessary. The beauty of sousvide is that you won’t create the an uneven cook in the meat or create a hardening of the exterior which would slow or prevent proper cooking of the middle. It would be a fun experiment to compare side by side

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              Dr_Pain You may be correct using a lower temp like 160 and carefully monitoring

              But the first time I tried summer sausage totally in sous vide I put them in at 170 for 2.5 hr. and ended up with a lot of tasty broth in my bags and summer sausage the consistency of a sponge LOL
              Didn’t want to chance it after that

              Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
              Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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                Looking very good glen.

                Paul

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                • G glen

                  Dr_Pain You may be correct using a lower temp like 160 and carefully monitoring

                  But the first time I tried summer sausage totally in sous vide I put them in at 170 for 2.5 hr. and ended up with a lot of tasty broth in my bags and summer sausage the consistency of a sponge LOL
                  Didn’t want to chance it after that

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                  glen said in Sous Vide Summer Sausage:

                  Dr_Pain You may be correct using a lower temp like 160 and carefully monitoring

                  But the first time I tried summer sausage totally in sous vide I put them in at 170 for 2.5 hr. and ended up with a lot of tasty broth in my bags and summer sausage the consistency of a sponge LOL
                  Didn’t want to chance it after that

                  I think since the end temp should be 150F that the sousvide should be set at that temp. That should be safe against fat out

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                    glen said in Sous Vide Summer Sausage:

                    Dr_Pain You may be correct using a lower temp like 160 and carefully monitoring

                    But the first time I tried summer sausage totally in sous vide I put them in at 170 for 2.5 hr. and ended up with a lot of tasty broth in my bags and summer sausage the consistency of a sponge LOL
                    Didn’t want to chance it after that

                    I think since the end temp should be 150F that the sousvide should be set at that temp. That should be safe against fat out

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                    Dr_Pain Agreed I may try that next time
                    At least I make small batches!

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                    • processheadP processhead

                      Looking very good glen.

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                      processhead Thank you Paul

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                        I am a little unclear about the 1 tablespoon of liquid lost during the cook. Was this liquid that sweated through the casing into the bag while cooking?

                        Paul

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                        • processheadP processhead

                          I am a little unclear about the 1 tablespoon of liquid lost during the cook. Was this liquid that sweated through the casing into the bag while cooking?

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                          processhead Yes that was moisture sweated out during the cook.
                          I was trying to point out how little product weight was lost, although I never weighed before and after smoking to know what was lost doing it that way

                          Also note that I added a minimal amount of water during mixing, so in my case I started out with less moisture than when I smoke or oven process

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                            I’ve used sous vide to finish sausage after smoking to finish with great success many times. A couple weeks ago tried straight sous vide with beef summer. After stuffing it went into vac bags and into the water. After temp came back up to 152 held for 3 hours. When it came out bags were full of water and casings wrinkled bad. Sampled next day and fat had not rendered. It was a little dry but not bad. Flavor was bland though. I thought that losing the water took a lot of seasoning with it.

                            The two things I thought that went wrong was since it was only five pounds I mixed by hand and might not have gotten full protein extraction. The second was that not stepping temp might of not allowed carrot fiber binder to work.

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                              marzig20
                              You need to remember that smoking is a drying process as well as a cooking process. When smoking you are also removing moisture from the product.

                              With sous vide where the product is sealed in plastic, the heat is going to drive some of the moisture out of the product and it has no where to go and will be trapped in the bag.

                              Paul

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                                marzig20
                                You need to remember that smoking is a drying process as well as a cooking process. When smoking you are also removing moisture from the product.

                                With sous vide where the product is sealed in plastic, the heat is going to drive some of the moisture out of the product and it has no where to go and will be trapped in the bag.

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                                processhead I totally agree, but I’ve never had smoked sausage shrink so bad that I had casings wrinkle like this. I’m utterly not opposed to experimenting with this more in small batches.

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                                  The times I have had casings shrink is when I smoked sausages and then failed to do a rapid chill in cold water after pulling them from the smoker.

                                  Paul

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                                    glen
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                                    When doing total sous vide I try to cut down on added water and never go above 155 F then immediate Ice bath

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                                    • processheadP processhead

                                      The times I have had casings shrink is when I smoked sausages and then failed to do a rapid chill in cold water after pulling them from the smoker.

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                                      processhead I must have had a brain fart. I bet that’s it, I took them out of the vac bags and put them straight into the fridge.

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                                        When doing total sous vide I try to cut down on added water and never go above 155 F then immediate Ice bath

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                                        glen That totally makes sense too. How much do you reduce water?

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                                        • marzig20M marzig20

                                          glen That totally makes sense too. How much do you reduce water?

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                                          marzig20 I try to add just enough water to get a good mix and protein extraction.
                                          Don’t mean to be vague but it varies per batch depending on the moisture in the meat load
                                          Also I don’t process above 155F. That extends the overdone window somewhat.

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