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Home made bacon vs Commercial bacon and cooking

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  • JonesyJ Jonesy

    processhead funny you should mention this. With me being new to this processing thing, my wife is not a fan of my latest endeavors (yet). However, she says to me a couple of days ago, “how come you don’t make bacon?”
    I don’t think I can pass up an opening like that. It seams relatively easy, and doesn’t look like I need a bazillion dollars worth of equipment to get it done.
    You guys keep talking, I’ll keep reading.

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    Jonesy said in Home made bacon vs Commercial bacon and cooking:

    processhead funny you should mention this. With me being new to this processing thing, my wife is not a fan of my latest endeavors (yet). However, she says to me a couple of days ago, “how come you don’t make bacon?”
    I don’t think I can pass up an opening like that. It seams relatively easy, and doesn’t look like I need a bazillion dollars worth of equipment to get it done.
    You guys keep talking, I’ll keep reading.

    Always listen to your wife when she suggests you make bacon. On other matters, take it under advisement. lol

    Paul

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    • processheadP processhead

      I have noticed my homemade bacon has a tendency to brown up and burn more easily than commercial bacon does.
      I assume it has to do with the sugars caramelizing in the hot skillet, but how do the commercial bacons avoid this?

      I don’t think most are using significantly less sugar than I do in mine. Could it be additives?

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      ND Mike
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      processhead do you use a lot of brown sugar in your dry rub cure process? If so that would be my guess as to why it browns up more. Kind of like BBQing low and slow with a lot of sugar in the rub. The bark will be super dark.

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      • ND MikeN ND Mike

        processhead do you use a lot of brown sugar in your dry rub cure process? If so that would be my guess as to why it browns up more. Kind of like BBQing low and slow with a lot of sugar in the rub. The bark will be super dark.

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        ND Mike
        I get it with any sugar in the cure. Brown or white. I don’t use particularly high levels of sugar either.

        Paul

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          Jonathon
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          Cabelas90 If you see this, want to jump in on how you guys avoid this? Im guessing it probably has to do with the fact that they get a more ven distribution through injecting and vac tumbling but having never made bacon in a commercial environment I dont want to speak without knoweldge.

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            Cabelas90
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            My guess is wet brine vs dry cure. I dont dry cure at all though so I couldn’t say for sure.

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            • JonesyJ Jonesy

              processhead funny you should mention this. With me being new to this processing thing, my wife is not a fan of my latest endeavors (yet). However, she says to me a couple of days ago, “how come you don’t make bacon?”
              I don’t think I can pass up an opening like that. It seams relatively easy, and doesn’t look like I need a bazillion dollars worth of equipment to get it done.
              You guys keep talking, I’ll keep reading.

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              Surg
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              Jonesy

              Just recently started curing bacon myself. The way I do it is pretty simple but I’m sure it’s definitely not the best recipe out there.

              pork belly cut in half or thirds
              Dry rub with:
              Cure #1 0.25%
              Salt. 2.25%
              Sugar. 1.50%
              Pepper. 1.00%.

              There is actually a calculator app that makes it pretty simple

              https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ismokehog/id965533201

              Seal in vac bag
              Place in tub turn daily for 10 days
              Remove from bag ( rinse if desired )
              Leave open in fridge to form pellicle for 24-48 hrs
              Smoke ( I use an MES )
              1:1 JD bourbon barrel and apple wood chips
              200 for about 3 hrs til internal 150
              Let cool to room temp then wrap and let sit overnight or at least 4 hrs.

              Like I said, this is how I do it but I’m sure there are better ways out there. Open to suggestions, critiques, etc.

              “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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                I wet brine mine for 10 days to 2 weeks in a solution of, 3/4 cup kosher salt, 1 cup dark brown sugar and a well rounded tablespoon of #1 cure per gallon of pure water. Seal lid and keep it in the refer so the temps are 34 to 39 degrees.

                Remove and light rinse and let them lay open in the fridge for a day or two.

                Hang in smoker and light a maze tray and cold smoke for 6 to 8 hours each and rest in the refer over night only to repete 2 to 3 times.
                Last time smoke at 160 to 180 till the IT is 135/140. Remove and refrigerate for 24 hours then slice and vac into portion sizes.

                We fry ours lower temps and slower. Very little pop and cracking to none at all, almost no need for a splatter screen.

                Wellish flavor!!

                Each batch is getting better than the last. The last one was awesome!

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                  craigrice
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                  I have been wanting to make some beef bacon but finding a butcher shop in my area is proving to be hard

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                  • craigriceC craigrice

                    I have been wanting to make some beef bacon but finding a butcher shop in my area is proving to be hard

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                      Cabelas90
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                      processhead To elaborate on my first answer. I don’t think its so much the sugar in the brine as the dryness of a dry brine bacon vs a wet brine. My thoughts is the extra moisture picked up in a wet brine helps dissolve the sugars and keep them from caramelizing. I think having that extra moisture also helps with cooking.

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                      • processheadP processhead

                        I cure my bellies with a dry cure, wrap, refrigerate, and then short soak in cold water when they are done.

                        Very happy with the flavor but the aesthetics of the cooked bacon is a minor irritant. I suspected the commercial curing process was tweaked to address this?

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                        processhead said in Home made bacon vs Commercial bacon and cooking:

                        I cure my bellies with a dry cure, wrap, refrigerate, and then short soak in cold water when they are done.

                        Very happy with the flavor but the aesthetics of the cooked bacon is a minor irritant. I suspected the commercial curing process was tweaked to address this?

                        Processhead, we had them same issue as you with my homemade bacon. I tried different widths when slicing the bacon. Cooked in different types of frying pans and different levels of heat. Finally we tried cooking it in an oven. and we are are very happy with the results. Cover a a baking sheet with aluminum foil. The bacon is placed on the foil and then the baking sheet is placed into a cold oven, then set the temp of the oven to 400 degrees. Once the oven reaches the set temp of 400 check the bacon. If it’s not done to your liking put it back into the oven and check in 2 min. Repeat the 2 min. check as necessary until it’s cooked to your liking.

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                        • J John Belvedere

                          processhead said in Home made bacon vs Commercial bacon and cooking:

                          I cure my bellies with a dry cure, wrap, refrigerate, and then short soak in cold water when they are done.

                          Very happy with the flavor but the aesthetics of the cooked bacon is a minor irritant. I suspected the commercial curing process was tweaked to address this?

                          Processhead, we had them same issue as you with my homemade bacon. I tried different widths when slicing the bacon. Cooked in different types of frying pans and different levels of heat. Finally we tried cooking it in an oven. and we are are very happy with the results. Cover a a baking sheet with aluminum foil. The bacon is placed on the foil and then the baking sheet is placed into a cold oven, then set the temp of the oven to 400 degrees. Once the oven reaches the set temp of 400 check the bacon. If it’s not done to your liking put it back into the oven and check in 2 min. Repeat the 2 min. check as necessary until it’s cooked to your liking.

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                          ND Mike
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                          John Belvedere bacon cooked in an oven is actually a really good way to do it!

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                            John Belvedere ND Mike I like bacon in the oven too, and it- comes out nice just like you describe. I would like to solve the issue with frying in a skillet though. Maybe it does have to do with dry rub curing process.

                            Paul

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                            • ND MikeN ND Mike

                              John Belvedere bacon cooked in an oven is actually a really good way to do it!

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                              YooperDog
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                              ND Mike and the rendered fat is a lot cleaner and easier to pour off into the jar. 😀 I like to cook the bacon that way especially if we have a crowd at the house. When it is just the boss and me six slices in the pan and done.

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                              • processheadP processhead

                                John Belvedere ND Mike I like bacon in the oven too, and it- comes out nice just like you describe. I would like to solve the issue with frying in a skillet though. Maybe it does have to do with dry rub curing process.

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                                processhead said in Home made bacon vs Commercial bacon and cooking:

                                John Belvedere ND Mike I like bacon in the oven too, and it- comes out nice just like you describe. I would like to solve the issue with frying in a skillet though. Maybe it does have to do with dry rub curing process.

                                I definitely agree the problem is most like.y the dry cure. The dry cure I use has maple sugar along with maple syrup. The high sugar content near the edges is to blame.

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                                  processhead said in Home made bacon vs Commercial bacon and cooking:

                                  John Belvedere ND Mike I like bacon in the oven too, and it- comes out nice just like you describe. I would like to solve the issue with frying in a skillet though. Maybe it does have to do with dry rub curing process.

                                  I definitely agree the problem is most like.y the dry cure. The dry cure I use has maple sugar along with maple syrup. The high sugar content near the edges is to blame.

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                                  processhead
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                                  John Belvedere said in Home made bacon vs Commercial bacon and cooking:

                                  processhead said in Home made bacon vs Commercial bacon and cooking:

                                  John Belvedere ND Mike I like bacon in the oven too, and it- comes out nice just like you describe. I would like to solve the issue with frying in a skillet though. Maybe it does have to do with dry rub curing process.

                                  I definitely agree the problem is most like.y the dry cure. The dry cure I use has maple sugar along with maple syrup. The high sugar content near the edges is to blame.

                                  The edges do brown up more. That would tend to support that theory.

                                  Paul

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                                    I use pure maple syrup for belly beacon .

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                                    • YooperDogY YooperDog

                                      ND Mike and the rendered fat is a lot cleaner and easier to pour off into the jar. 😀 I like to cook the bacon that way especially if we have a crowd at the house. When it is just the boss and me six slices in the pan and done.

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                                      ND Mike
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                                      YooperDog yep. Gotta save that grease. Makes the best fried taters!

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                                        In the oven, but instead of foil try parchment paper you will never do it any other way.

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                                        • processheadP processhead

                                          I have noticed my homemade bacon has a tendency to brown up and burn more easily than commercial bacon does.
                                          I assume it has to do with the sugars caramelizing in the hot skillet, but how do the commercial bacons avoid this?

                                          I don’t think most are using significantly less sugar than I do in mine. Could it be additives?

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                                          processhead that’s one of the reasons I completely left out sugar on some of the last batch I made

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