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  • smokinbubbaS Offline
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    Going to break in the buffalo (bambi) chopper this weekend. I’m thinking, grind block thru 3/16 plate, add to bambi chopper, add seasoning, binder,cure, hickory powder, and pellet ice. Chop till I get protein extraction. Transfer to stuffer and put in 4" casing. Thermal processing will be sous vide.
    Sound like a plan???

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      • smokinbubbaS smokinbubba

        Going to break in the buffalo (bambi) chopper this weekend. I’m thinking, grind block thru 3/16 plate, add to bambi chopper, add seasoning, binder,cure, hickory powder, and pellet ice. Chop till I get protein extraction. Transfer to stuffer and put in 4" casing. Thermal processing will be sous vide.
        Sound like a plan???

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        smokinbubba said in Processing order???:

        Going to break in the buffalo (bambi) chopper this weekend. I’m thinking, grind block thru 3/16 plate, add to bambi chopper, add seasoning, binder,cure, hickory powder, and pellet ice. Chop till I get protein extraction. Transfer to stuffer and put in 4" casing. Thermal processing will be sous vide.
        Sound like a plan???

        How large is your batch size?

        Unless you are doing a very small batch size that will entirely fit in the chopper bowl, I would suggest mixing the dry ingredients with all the meat at an earlier stage of your processing.

        With small choppers you are only going to be able to chop a few pounds at a time, so with larger meat blocks, you will want the dry ingredients evenly mixed in before chopping.

        You will also want one of these scrapers if you don’t already have one for loading and unloading the chopper bowl.

        Scraper.jpg

        Paul

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          smokinbubba said in Processing order???:

          Going to break in the buffalo (bambi) chopper this weekend. I’m thinking, grind block thru 3/16 plate, add to bambi chopper, add seasoning, binder,cure, hickory powder, and pellet ice. Chop till I get protein extraction. Transfer to stuffer and put in 4" casing. Thermal processing will be sous vide.
          Sound like a plan???

          How large is your batch size?

          Unless you are doing a very small batch size that will entirely fit in the chopper bowl, I would suggest mixing the dry ingredients with all the meat at an earlier stage of your processing.

          With small choppers you are only going to be able to chop a few pounds at a time, so with larger meat blocks, you will want the dry ingredients evenly mixed in before chopping.

          You will also want one of these scrapers if you don’t already have one for loading and unloading the chopper bowl.

          Scraper.jpg

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          processhead I’m thinking of doing 4 5lb batches. Doubt I can get 10 lbs to fit the small bowl. Plus 5lb measurements are easy

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            Does anyone have an emulsifier? Wondering which is better to use for a paste finish for something like hot dogs or bologna

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              Does anyone have an emulsifier? Wondering which is better to use for a paste finish for something like hot dogs or bologna

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              RJ Adventures said in Processing order???:

              Does anyone have an emulsifier? Wondering which is better to use for a paste finish for something like hot dogs or bologna

              I will let u know tomorrow.

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                I’ve been using a champion juicer for a few years to make my bambi dogs. Tomorrow is my maiden voyage of the hobart buffalo chopper. I’m hoping to speed up my process since the juicer takes so long.

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                • smokinbubbaS smokinbubba

                  I’ve been using a champion juicer for a few years to make my bambi dogs. Tomorrow is my maiden voyage of the hobart buffalo chopper. I’m hoping to speed up my process since the juicer takes so long.

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                  smokinbubba
                  I will be interested to see how much meat you can load into the chopper bowl.

                  When I use my chopper, I always blend the dry ingredients with the meat between the first and second grinding and before chopping

                  After you begin chopping you should hear a noticeable change in the chopper speed as the protein extraction takes place and the mixture gets stickier. You will also be able to tell when you have reached the limit of the bowl’s chopping capacity.

                  Paul

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                  • smokinbubbaS smokinbubba

                    Going to break in the buffalo (bambi) chopper this weekend. I’m thinking, grind block thru 3/16 plate, add to bambi chopper, add seasoning, binder,cure, hickory powder, and pellet ice. Chop till I get protein extraction. Transfer to stuffer and put in 4" casing. Thermal processing will be sous vide.
                    Sound like a plan???

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                    smokinbubba
                    I am so jealous. Wish I had one. Please post some pics.

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                      I wondered about the chopper or like a food processor because I have a well made fairly large food processor I thought about using the emulsify the meat, but I have a line on a hobart Buffalo chopper for only 600 with a 5lb capacity I believe, so thinking of maybe getting that for a better product

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                        I wondered about the chopper or like a food processor because I have a well made fairly large food processor I thought about using the emulsify the meat, but I have a line on a hobart Buffalo chopper for only 600 with a 5lb capacity I believe, so thinking of maybe getting that for a better product

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                        RJ Adventures said in Processing order???:

                        I wondered about the chopper or like a food processor because I have a well made fairly large food processor I thought about using the emulsify the meat, but I have a line on a hobart Buffalo chopper for only 600 with a 5lb capacity I believe, so thinking of maybe getting that for a better product

                        I tried 5 lbs in mine today and it was a big disaster. Meat squirting out everywhere. Ended up doing 4lbs at a time and it was perfect.
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                          Well, the maden voyage went well. 40lbs of bambi bologna. The sweet spot was 4lbs meat, about 2.5c water and 2c ice. Chopped the $hit out of the meat! Very happy. Sausage came out a little wetter than I like so curious how it will turn out. Ran late so didnt get it in the sous vide tonight, will cook tomorrow.

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                          • smokinbubbaS smokinbubba

                            Well, the maden voyage went well. 40lbs of bambi bologna. The sweet spot was 4lbs meat, about 2.5c water and 2c ice. Chopped the $hit out of the meat! Very happy. Sausage came out a little wetter than I like so curious how it will turn out. Ran late so didnt get it in the sous vide tonight, will cook tomorrow.

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                              smokinbubba
                              I will be interested to see how much meat you can load into the chopper bowl.

                              When I use my chopper, I always blend the dry ingredients with the meat between the first and second grinding and before chopping

                              After you begin chopping you should hear a noticeable change in the chopper speed as the protein extraction takes place and the mixture gets stickier. You will also be able to tell when you have reached the limit of the bowl’s chopping capacity.

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                              processhead I did things a little differently. I ground thru 3/8 plate then 1/8" plate. Added meat to hobart. Mixed dry ingredients with 2.5c water and poured into hobart bowl. Started her up and added 2c ice. Chopped for 3 min or so. Everything was sticky but thin. Kinda like yogurt. Delicious hickory flavored yogurt. Stuffed in 4" fiber casings. Skipped the mixer altogether. Sous vide romorrow

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                                processhead I did things a little differently. I ground thru 3/8 plate then 1/8" plate. Added meat to hobart. Mixed dry ingredients with 2.5c water and poured into hobart bowl. Started her up and added 2c ice. Chopped for 3 min or so. Everything was sticky but thin. Kinda like yogurt. Delicious hickory flavored yogurt. Stuffed in 4" fiber casings. Skipped the mixer altogether. Sous vide romorrow

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                                smokinbubba said in Processing order???:

                                processhead I did things a little differently. I ground thru 3/8 plate then 1/8" plate. Added meat to hobart. Mixed dry ingredients with 2.5c water and poured into hobart bowl. Started her up and added 2c ice. Chopped for 3 min or so. Everything was sticky but thin. Kinda like yogurt. Delicious hickory flavored yogurt. Stuffed in 4" fiber casings. Skipped the mixer altogether. Sous vide romorrow

                                Looks like your got it done, can’t wait to see how it looks once you cut one after you are finished with the cook! Great job.

                                Paul

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                                  Thanks Paul. Will be my biggest cook to date.

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                                    Yes definitely curious to see how it looks with the cook! Now you just sous vide the entire cook? What’s your process like for that?

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                                      Yes definitely curious to see how it looks with the cook! Now you just sous vide the entire cook? What’s your process like for that?

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                                      RJ Adventures I add hickory powder per the conversion chart. Stuff in 4" cases. Start water at 125deg, bump 10deg at a time every 1.5hr until water is 175deg. Cook to 160it. Ice/water bath then bloom, cut in 3rd’s and package. My 1st batch in feb was 15lb and it is gone. This batch is 40lb. Cooking in a 70qt coleman cooler this time.
                                      The smoker puts a “rind” on the exterior which is fine for ss or trail but I want a soft edge on my sandwich bambi bologna. Oh meet block is 50/50 bambi / pork butt

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                                        RJ Adventures I add hickory powder per the conversion chart. Stuff in 4" cases. Start water at 125deg, bump 10deg at a time every 1.5hr until water is 175deg. Cook to 160it. Ice/water bath then bloom, cut in 3rd’s and package. My 1st batch in feb was 15lb and it is gone. This batch is 40lb. Cooking in a 70qt coleman cooler this time.
                                        The smoker puts a “rind” on the exterior which is fine for ss or trail but I want a soft edge on my sandwich bambi bologna. Oh meet block is 50/50 bambi / pork butt

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                                        smokinbubba said in Processing order???:

                                        Start water at 125deg, bump 10deg at a time every 1.5hr until water is 175deg. Cook to 160it.

                                        I’m just curious, but why use a complex sous vide schedule? Why not just set the sous vide to 160 F and let it do its thing?

                                        Are you worried about fat out? I haven’t seen any in the sausages I’ve cooked solely by sous vide. Granted, I haven’t cooked anything as large, but I don’t know why it would make much difference.

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                                          smokinbubba said in Processing order???:

                                          Start water at 125deg, bump 10deg at a time every 1.5hr until water is 175deg. Cook to 160it.

                                          I’m just curious, but why use a complex sous vide schedule? Why not just set the sous vide to 160 F and let it do its thing?

                                          Are you worried about fat out? I haven’t seen any in the sausages I’ve cooked solely by sous vide. Granted, I haven’t cooked anything as large, but I don’t know why it would make much difference.

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                                          TexLaw Fat out is exactly why I step it up slow. I had a bad fat out in a batch of bambi dogs once and been shy ever since. I took 9 hrs to do the last batch of bambi 4" bologna and had no problems. At hr 7 now and should be about done. I know the two major reasons for fat out is cooking too fast and protein extraction. Since I was using my hobart for the first time, wasnt sure how good the protein extraction was. (used to the mixer, easy to tell) so I didnt want to chance it on a 40lb batch. Plus this batch was WET. crossing my fingers.

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