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  • processheadP Offline
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    processhead
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    wrote on last edited by processhead
    #29

    Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

    Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
    This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

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    Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

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    Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
    Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

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    Paul

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    • processheadP processhead

      Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

      Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
      This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

      20211226_143634.jpg

      Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

      20211226_145816.jpg

      20211226_151246.jpg

      20211226_151253.jpg

      Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
      Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

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      kyleK Offline
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      kyle
      Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
      wrote on last edited by
      #30

      processhead looks really good. I’m glad to see someone else also uses tender quick.

      hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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      • kyleK kyle

        processhead looks really good. I’m glad to see someone else also uses tender quick.

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        processhead
        Regular Contributors Power User
        wrote on last edited by processhead
        #31

        kyle I use Tenderquick since it was called for in the recipe I have been using for a long time and I like the overall results I get.
        I don’t think there is anything particularly special about it, since it is just salt, sugar and cure, after all.

        I was actually thinking about it today and was considering what combination of those ingredients I would use if I were to come up with a substitute.

        Reality is, I tend to stick with something that works unless it becomes unavailable and I am forced to come up with an alternative.

        Paul

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        • processheadP processhead

          kyle I use Tenderquick since it was called for in the recipe I have been using for a long time and I like the overall results I get.
          I don’t think there is anything particularly special about it, since it is just salt, sugar and cure, after all.

          I was actually thinking about it today and was considering what combination of those ingredients I would use if I were to come up with a substitute.

          Reality is, I tend to stick with something that works unless it becomes unavailable and I am forced to come up with an alternative.

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          kyle
          Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
          wrote on last edited by
          #32

          processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

          hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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          • processheadP processhead

            Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

            Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
            This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

            20211226_143634.jpg

            Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

            20211226_145816.jpg

            20211226_151246.jpg

            20211226_151253.jpg

            Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
            Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

            20211230_070801.jpg
            20211230_070940.jpg
            20211230_082225.jpg
            ![20211230_091126.jpg]
            20211230_090904.jpg
            (/assets/uploads/files/1640896266139-20211230_091126.jpg)
            20211230_091126.jpg
            20211231_091922.jpg
            20211231_093038.jpg

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            calldoctoday
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            #33

            processhead Very good looking meat there.

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            • processheadP processhead

              Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

              Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
              This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

              20211226_143634.jpg

              Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

              20211226_145816.jpg

              20211226_151246.jpg

              20211226_151253.jpg

              Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
              Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

              20211230_070801.jpg
              20211230_070940.jpg
              20211230_082225.jpg
              ![20211230_091126.jpg]
              20211230_090904.jpg
              (/assets/uploads/files/1640896266139-20211230_091126.jpg)
              20211230_091126.jpg
              20211231_091922.jpg
              20211231_093038.jpg

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              cdavis
              Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
              wrote on last edited by
              #34

              processhead looking good 👍.

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              • kyleK kyle

                processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

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                processhead
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                wrote on last edited by processhead
                #35

                kyle said in Venison Pastrami:

                processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

                I read through the chipped deer thread and I think the comment on TQ was the fact that it contains sodium nitrate and most other cures do not. The argument against using cures with nitrate in them has to do with cooking at high temperature and formation of nitrosamines. With chipped venison preparation in the kitchen, it seems unlikely that you would see those high temperatures, so I think that any risks are very minor when used the way we are using it.

                I think the best reason for using Cure #1 in processing is the correct amount to use for good, safe results is well documented and straight forward. Directions for using TQ are less so, IMO.

                Paul

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                • processheadP processhead

                  kyle said in Venison Pastrami:

                  processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

                  I read through the chipped deer thread and I think the comment on TQ was the fact that it contains sodium nitrate and most other cures do not. The argument against using cures with nitrate in them has to do with cooking at high temperature and formation of nitrosamines. With chipped venison preparation in the kitchen, it seems unlikely that you would see those high temperatures, so I think that any risks are very minor when used the way we are using it.

                  I think the best reason for using Cure #1 in processing is the correct amount to use for good, safe results is well documented and straight forward. Directions for using TQ are less so, IMO.

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                  kyle
                  Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
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                  #36

                  processhead thanks for taking the time to read through it and your explanation. As the old saying goes “*I dont understand everything I know”

                  hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                  • kyleK kyle

                    processhead thanks for taking the time to read through it and your explanation. As the old saying goes “*I dont understand everything I know”

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                    kyle Incidentally, I have made SOS with my venison pastrami and it was very good.

                    Paul

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                    • kyleK kyle

                      processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

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                      kyle I think if I still have a boned out hind quarter in the freezer that is going on the list for late Jan otherwise it will need to be put on the Nov list. But then I could always do a trial with beef. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice, practice, practice…

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                      • processheadP processhead

                        kyle Incidentally, I have made SOS with my venison pastrami and it was very good.

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                        processhead Nicely done! I always make mine from brisket, might have to do a hind next year.

                        Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                        I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                        Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                          Awesome my friend

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                            Looks delicious! I’m definitely going to revisit this post and take some notes. Thanks for posting. 😋

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